1 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Let's see. 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:15,960 The original schedule today had Colonel Gordon Fullerton going to come and talk to us about 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:24,560 both cockpit design, but primarily about test flying the Shuttle. 4 00:00:24,730 --> 00:00:27,349 Unfortunately, he is in charge of Flight Operations. 5 00:00:27,349 --> 00:00:28,269 Well, not unfortunately. 6 00:00:28,269 --> 00:00:35,269 He is in charge of Flight Operations at Dryden Flight Research Center for NASA. 7 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:42,960 Unfortunately for us, since the time that we had agreed on this date, they scheduled, 8 00:00:43,150 --> 00:00:47,780 at the beginning of next week, a major base inspection. 9 00:00:47,780 --> 00:00:52,500 And if any of you are connected with the military you know what that involves. 10 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:58,619 And, since he is head of flight operations, he really has to be there to make sure that 11 00:00:58,619 --> 00:00:59,220 they are ready for it. 12 00:00:59,220 --> 00:01:00,290 He has rescheduled. 13 00:01:00,290 --> 00:01:01,729 He will be here in November. 14 00:01:01,729 --> 00:01:08,220 And I will make adjustments to the syllabus. 15 00:01:08,220 --> 00:01:13,649 On Thursday, Bob Ried is going to talk about aerothermodynamics. 16 00:01:13,649 --> 00:01:20,649 And what I thought I would do today is kind of a potpourri maybe doing a little bit of 17 00:01:21,789 --> 00:01:25,859 recap on where we've gotten to so far. 18 00:01:25,859 --> 00:01:32,859 And also I brought a few videos just to give you a visual reminder of some of the things 19 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:36,899 that we've been talking about with the Shuttle. 20 00:01:36,899 --> 00:01:43,899 Any sort of general questions about what I handed back to you? 21 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:52,590 I am happy to meet with teams individually to discuss any specific questions. 22 00:01:53,259 --> 00:01:57,210 OK. 23 00:01:57,210 --> 00:01:57,810 Let's see. 24 00:01:57,810 --> 00:02:03,319 One thing that I -- Hi. 25 00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:07,619 I was just telling the class Gordon Fullerton was supposed to be here, but he has had to 26 00:02:07,619 --> 00:02:11,610 postpone to November because they're having a base inspection of flight operations. 27 00:02:11,610 --> 00:02:13,319 So, he is not here. 28 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:20,319 I had an email from Professor Cohen who will be here. 29 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:27,960 And let's see if this is -- He had an idea that now that we've kind of started going 30 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:44,460 into details on various subsystems that it might be interesting to work our way through 31 00:02:45,030 --> 00:02:52,030 a Shuttle flight and just remind ourselves of the different subsystems that are brought 32 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:59,180 into play at various times during a Shuttle mission. 33 00:02:59,180 --> 00:03:03,090 This is kind of part of the systems integration process. 34 00:03:03,090 --> 00:03:09,530 And remember that we talked at the beginning how in the systems engineering process we 35 00:03:09,530 --> 00:03:16,530 always want to keep in mind the eventual operational use of the systems that are being designed. 36 00:03:17,790 --> 00:03:24,790 So, the idea, for instance, would be start at the very beginning. 37 00:03:25,420 --> 00:03:27,460 You're sitting on the pad. 38 00:03:27,460 --> 00:03:34,460 You could even go further than that because remember we talked about how systems had to 39 00:03:34,570 --> 00:03:39,980 be developed, for instance, for loading the payload into the cargo bay. 40 00:03:39,980 --> 00:03:42,040 They have that big payload changeout room. 41 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:49,040 They had to design the hypergolic reaction control and OMS motors in such a way that 42 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:56,320 the pods were actually removable from the Shuttle because they were using hazardous 43 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,650 hypergolic fuel and they cannot be serviced in the main hanger. 44 00:04:00,650 --> 00:04:06,120 They have to be taken over to a remote section of the Kennedy Space Center. 45 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,320 And then, of course, the servicing of the tiles. 46 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:15,320 There is a lot of servicing and maintenance work that has to be done on all the subsystems. 47 00:04:17,850 --> 00:04:22,130 And, ideally, it should be designed in from the beginning. 48 00:04:22,130 --> 00:04:29,130 Of course, in many cases, we got a lot smarter after we started to use the Shuttle. 49 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:36,590 And, if we were doing it again, which is something that you will be thinking about, we would, 50 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:45,370 in fact, have built certain things into the subsystems which would have made it easier 51 00:04:45,370 --> 00:04:47,919 for them to be maintained and repaired. 52 00:04:47,919 --> 00:04:54,919 What I am going to do, just as an experiment here, let's think briefly about these subsystems. 53 00:04:59,129 --> 00:05:06,129 And I've got a little video taking us through the launch and the entry stages. 54 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,889 And then I have one or two other things to show you, which will just illustrate certain 55 00:05:10,889 --> 00:05:17,020 other aspects of the Shuttle Mission. 56 00:05:17,020 --> 00:05:24,020 Right at the moment of liftoff, just kind of to set the stage, the final countdown starts 57 00:05:26,099 --> 00:05:27,650 at T minus nine minutes. 58 00:05:27,650 --> 00:05:34,650 They typically will have holds built into the count so that particularly when you're 59 00:05:34,909 --> 00:05:41,249 going for a very tight launch window, like if you're on a rendezvous mission to the Space 60 00:05:41,249 --> 00:05:48,249 Station, you have to launch when the Space Station basically is pretty much going overhead. 61 00:05:49,580 --> 00:05:56,360 And, since the Space Station is in a 51-degree orbit, it takes more energy to get into a 62 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,710 51-degree orbit. 63 00:05:57,710 --> 00:06:02,999 Because normally if you launch from Cape Canaveral, hopefully you understand the orbital dynamics, 64 00:06:02,999 --> 00:06:09,879 if you launch due east you get the full speed of the earth's rotation. 65 00:06:09,879 --> 00:06:15,259 And since the latitude of Cape Canaveral is 28 degrees that puts you into an orbit which 66 00:06:15,259 --> 00:06:17,340 is inclined 28 degrees to the equator. 67 00:06:17,340 --> 00:06:24,340 That is what we did when we did a rendezvous with the Hubble Telescope which is in 28 degrees. 68 00:06:24,419 --> 00:06:29,199 In fact, I remember my brother was telling me that we launched about 4:00 AM so it was 69 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:29,539 night. 70 00:06:29,539 --> 00:06:35,529 And just about 20 minutes before we launched they saw Hubble fly over and everybody thought 71 00:06:35,529 --> 00:06:38,009 that is a good sign, they seem to know what they are doing. 72 00:06:38,009 --> 00:06:45,009 [LAUGHTER] The thing is that when you have an object that is in orbit, and the orbit 73 00:06:50,830 --> 00:06:55,629 you can think of as being roughly fixed in inertial space, obviously it precesses a few 74 00:06:55,629 --> 00:06:56,419 degrees every day. 75 00:06:56,419 --> 00:07:02,759 But if you think of it as fixed in inertial space on the time scale of a day or so then 76 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:05,620 the earth is turning underneath it. 77 00:07:05,620 --> 00:07:09,930 And you have to launch basically when you are in that orbital plane. 78 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:14,509 Now, if you have a little bit of extra energy to burn you can launch a little bit earlier 79 00:07:14,509 --> 00:07:21,509 or a little bit later and use that extra delta V to change your velocity to get into that 80 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:23,599 plane. 81 00:07:23,599 --> 00:07:29,050 If you're launching to rendezvous with Hubble, say, which is in a 28-degree orbit, you have 82 00:07:29,050 --> 00:07:33,900 a bigger launch window than you do if you launch into the Space Station at a 51-degree 83 00:07:33,900 --> 00:07:34,749 orbit. 84 00:07:34,749 --> 00:07:40,569 Because, going into a 51-degree orbit, you are using a lot of extra delta V just to change 85 00:07:40,569 --> 00:07:44,069 from a 28 to a 51-degree inclination. 86 00:07:44,069 --> 00:07:48,339 So the launch window to rendezvous with the Space Station is very short. 87 00:07:48,339 --> 00:07:50,210 It is only about five minutes. 88 00:07:50,210 --> 00:07:57,210 So in order to make sure that they have the maximum chance of making the launch window, 89 00:08:00,559 --> 00:08:05,999 they actually build in some extra large holes, even more so than for a normal launch. 90 00:08:05,999 --> 00:08:10,430 But you pick up the final count at nine minutes. 91 00:08:10,430 --> 00:08:14,749 The Shuttle, at that point, is on external power. 92 00:08:14,749 --> 00:08:21,749 At about seven minutes, the pilot, that is the person sitting on the right-hand side 93 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:25,240 who should be called the copilot, and I've talked about this with a few of you. 94 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:31,249 None of the astronaut test pilots, you know, these are kind of big ego people. 95 00:08:31,249 --> 00:08:32,849 Nobody wants to be called a copilot. 96 00:08:32,849 --> 00:08:34,799 The person sitting in the right seat is the pilot. 97 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:40,889 The person sitting in the left seat, who is really the pilot, is called the commander. 98 00:08:40,889 --> 00:08:47,570 The pilot does not fly the Shuttle, except for usually if you have a nice commander he 99 00:08:47,570 --> 00:08:54,570 will let the pilot -- when you're pulling away from the Space Station it is kind of 100 00:08:55,089 --> 00:09:01,170 a tradition that you give the pilot the stick and let the pilot do a fly around. 101 00:09:01,170 --> 00:09:05,529 And, in the old days, some of the commanders actually gave the pilots a little bit of stick 102 00:09:05,529 --> 00:09:07,190 time before landing. 103 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:10,000 But that generally doesn't happen now. 104 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Anyway, the pilot is in charge of a lot of the subsystems, the main engines, the electrical 105 00:09:17,170 --> 00:09:21,290 power system, the auxiliary power units. 106 00:09:21,290 --> 00:09:27,730 It is the pilot who has to throw a switch to put the Shuttle on internal power. 107 00:09:27,730 --> 00:09:32,630 At about eight minutes before a launch you go onto fuel cell power. 108 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:39,630 Then at about 5.5 minutes before a launch you turn on the auxiliary power unit. 109 00:09:40,750 --> 00:09:42,810 Remember we talked about that subsystem. 110 00:09:42,810 --> 00:09:49,810 That generates the hydraulic pressure to move the flight control surfaces and the main engine 111 00:09:51,769 --> 00:09:52,190 bells. 112 00:09:52,190 --> 00:09:59,190 And you will see, if you watch a launch sequence, starting at about three minutes after the 113 00:09:59,470 --> 00:10:04,970 auxiliary power unit comes on -- at that point you can sort of feel a little bit of humming 114 00:10:04,970 --> 00:10:11,970 in the vehicle when you're sitting in it -- they then move the engine bells back and forth 115 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:17,750 through their entire range just to make sure that the hydraulics are working. 116 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:22,589 And actually the whole Shuttle shakes when that happens so you can sort of feel that 117 00:10:22,589 --> 00:10:23,430 when you're sitting there. 118 00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:28,170 And then, of course, one of the challenges with a cryogenic engine -- and this going 119 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:33,050 to be an interesting development project for the future when they want to have a restartable 120 00:10:33,050 --> 00:10:33,410 engine. 121 00:10:33,410 --> 00:10:39,500 Remember these are cryogenic engines and so you have to do a cool down. 122 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:46,500 And so you start to flow the liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen through the piping. 123 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:53,720 Again, inside a minute you can feel kind of a rumbling down below as valves are opening 124 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:01,019 and things are starting to flow. 125 00:11:01,019 --> 00:11:08,019 At 31 seconds the launch control center gives control over to the Shuttle computers. 126 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:16,230 And the last 31 seconds are controlled entirely by the Shuttle computers. 127 00:11:16,230 --> 00:11:21,940 They look at thousands of data points to make sure that everything is working properly. 128 00:11:21,940 --> 00:11:28,940 At T minus six seconds the engines go through an ignite sequence. 129 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:34,009 The engine starts are staggered. 130 00:11:34,009 --> 00:11:38,089 And you will see that when you look at the slow motion of the video that I am going to 131 00:11:38,089 --> 00:11:39,810 show you. 132 00:11:39,810 --> 00:11:44,029 That reduces the shock on the system. 133 00:11:44,029 --> 00:11:47,880 It only takes a couple of seconds for the engines to come up to full power. 134 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:54,880 You certainly don't want to commit yourself to lighting the solid boosters unless you 135 00:11:55,269 --> 00:11:57,949 are 100% sure that your main engines are firing. 136 00:11:57,949 --> 00:12:04,949 Because if even one main engine is not operating at 100% efficiency you cannot make it to orbit. 137 00:12:10,649 --> 00:12:16,569 In fact, if you have one engine out on the pad, you have to do a return to launch site 138 00:12:16,569 --> 00:12:17,149 abort. 139 00:12:17,149 --> 00:12:21,560 We will talk about the details of that whole process at some point. 140 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:28,560 AUDIENCE QUESTION You can abort launch right up to when the solid -- Once the boosters 141 00:12:31,149 --> 00:12:33,029 are lit you are going. 142 00:12:33,029 --> 00:12:38,279 Just hope you're pointed in the right direction because there is no thrust termination on 143 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:40,440 the solids. 144 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,610 And it has happened four times that we have had pad shutdowns. 145 00:12:45,610 --> 00:12:49,670 The engines are monitored. 146 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:56,050 On two of those occasions it turned out that the problems were instrumentation. 147 00:12:56,050 --> 00:13:01,509 On two occasions it turned out that there were, in fact, real engine problems. 148 00:13:01,509 --> 00:13:06,350 And I would say, for a 50% success rate, you're doing well. 149 00:13:06,350 --> 00:13:10,100 I mean it was the right thing to shut down the engines all those times. 150 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:14,740 Although, the very first time when they had an engine shutdown on the pad, well first 151 00:13:14,740 --> 00:13:21,740 of all, just an acronym is MECO, main engine cutoff, which normally happens about 8.5 minutes 152 00:13:22,629 --> 00:13:24,190 after launch. 153 00:13:24,190 --> 00:13:29,050 The comment by Steve Hawley, who was the flight engineer in the center seat when they had 154 00:13:29,050 --> 00:13:34,329 -- this was on the fourteenth Shuttle flight -- when they had a pad abort, his comment 155 00:13:34,329 --> 00:13:41,329 was, "Somehow I thought we would be a little bit higher at MECO." And it turned out, they 156 00:13:43,110 --> 00:13:48,319 didn't realize it at the time, but they actually had a hydrogen fire on the pad. 157 00:13:48,319 --> 00:13:50,189 Remember we talked about how there was a lot of hydrogen. 158 00:13:50,189 --> 00:13:56,620 And, of course, before the engine ignition, we have those sparklers to get rid of the 159 00:13:56,620 --> 00:13:57,540 excess hydrogen. 160 00:13:57,540 --> 00:14:03,209 But, in the process of shutting down the engines, there was also a lot of excess hydrogen which 161 00:14:03,209 --> 00:14:04,689 got into the engine [UNINTELLIGIBLE]. 162 00:14:04,689 --> 00:14:10,800 And the problem is that a hydrogen fire, as you know, is pretty much invisible. 163 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,319 And they didn't have any infrared cameras at the time. 164 00:14:13,319 --> 00:14:20,319 And so basically everybody went around, the crew took their time and everybody went out. 165 00:14:24,949 --> 00:14:30,649 Once they realized it, they put on a water douse. 166 00:14:30,649 --> 00:14:33,220 Now we have infrared cameras. 167 00:14:33,220 --> 00:14:39,660 And, whenever you have an engine shutdown, you have to be very careful that you don't, 168 00:14:39,660 --> 00:14:46,660 in fact, have a hydrogen fire. 169 00:14:50,339 --> 00:14:57,339 Coming back to the subsystem, the last stage of the launch, the main engines have gone 170 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,189 on. 171 00:15:04,189 --> 00:15:08,680 You have turned on the hydraulic system both for the main engine and the boosters have 172 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:15,480 their own hydraulic systems and the boosters have their own auxiliary power unit. 173 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,160 Guidance navigation and control, of course, is absolutely critical. 174 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:26,160 Now, first stage is what they call basically open loop guidance. 175 00:15:26,459 --> 00:15:33,459 There is a specific projectory that you are supposed to follow. 176 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,259 Once the solid boosters are off you are following a closed loop guidance which is taking you 177 00:15:40,259 --> 00:15:47,259 to a specific point and velocity in time and space and the trajectory is actively adjusted 178 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,759 to get there. 179 00:15:53,759 --> 00:15:59,129 Because the solid boosters have so much thrust you don't want to do a lot of sporty maneuvering. 180 00:15:59,129 --> 00:16:06,129 In fact, the biggest challenge from a maneuvering point of view is when you're going through 181 00:16:06,329 --> 00:16:13,329 max Q and maximum dynamic pressure and you have to relieve wind shear loads on the aero 182 00:16:16,189 --> 00:16:18,610 surfaces. 183 00:16:18,610 --> 00:16:25,240 Basically, when the boosters are firing, from the crew's point of view, it is hands-off. 184 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,209 There is now way that you could take manual control over the boosters. 185 00:16:29,209 --> 00:16:30,670 There is just too much power. 186 00:16:30,670 --> 00:16:37,670 And just a little bit of deviation from your course and you will break up aerodynamically. 187 00:16:37,790 --> 00:16:42,449 It is hands-off. 188 00:16:42,449 --> 00:16:49,329 The fuel cells are generating all of the power. 189 00:16:49,329 --> 00:16:56,329 The guidance, navigation and control is being done inside the Shuttle and the results are 190 00:16:57,269 --> 00:17:00,560 sent to the solid boosters. 191 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,079 The gimbals can move. 192 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:08,900 So the roll maneuver, for instance, is done by the solid engines. 193 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:12,579 How do the solids gimbal? 194 00:17:12,579 --> 00:17:13,890 The solids can gimbal, yeah. 195 00:17:13,890 --> 00:17:15,619 How do they gimbal? 196 00:17:15,619 --> 00:17:17,369 The same way as the main engines. 197 00:17:17,369 --> 00:17:23,909 I mean they are on a mounting with hydraulic actuators. 198 00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:26,819 And so the actuators expand and contract. 199 00:17:26,819 --> 00:17:33,819 And you can imagine the forces that are involved there because these are 2.5 million pound 200 00:17:36,029 --> 00:17:37,120 thrust engines. 201 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:44,120 It is pretty amazing. 202 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,770 Going through maximum dynamic pressure, SRB separation, main engine cutoff, basically 203 00:17:51,770 --> 00:17:53,570 the same systems are working. 204 00:17:53,570 --> 00:18:00,570 The critical things are, of course, the main engine has to be throttleable. 205 00:18:02,110 --> 00:18:08,179 This was a big challenge, as we heard, in making the main engine. 206 00:18:08,179 --> 00:18:11,010 It is throttleable for two reasons. 207 00:18:11,010 --> 00:18:14,059 Going through a maximum dynamic pressure. 208 00:18:14,059 --> 00:18:21,059 And at that point, the solids are also, you know, the way the solid propellant is loaded, 209 00:18:22,909 --> 00:18:28,630 the actual cross-sectional profile is such that you don't have a constant thrust profile. 210 00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:33,850 The thrust profile is very high right at liftoff where you need a lot of thrust. 211 00:18:33,850 --> 00:18:38,360 It falls off as you're going through maximum dynamic pressure. 212 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:45,360 And then it builds up as you burn through the last two minutes of SRB firing. 213 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:55,779 The Shuttle is pulling about 2.5 Gs at SRB cutoff. 214 00:18:55,779 --> 00:19:02,549 The aerodynamic separation of the solids got a lot of attention. 215 00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:09,549 To have a re-contact would be a disaster, so you have four separation motors, two at 216 00:19:09,820 --> 00:19:16,659 the top and two at the bottom which basically push the solid boosters away from the Shuttle. 217 00:19:16,659 --> 00:19:23,659 And, of course, those motors are pointed right at the Shuttle in order to move the boosters 218 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:26,640 away. It is pretty spectacular when you're inside, especially at night. 219 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:37,880 They are little solid rocket motors and they are firing right at you so visually it's spectacular. 220 00:19:40,929 --> 00:19:47,929 But it also, unfortunately, leaves kind of a nasty coating on the front windshield most 221 00:19:49,679 --> 00:19:52,970 of which luckily gets burned off during reentry. 222 00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:59,970 But the pilots were a little bit concerned that that might hurt their visibility in landing, 223 00:20:00,010 --> 00:20:02,500 particularly if you had a bad sun angle. 224 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:09,500 They always try to consider the sun angle for landing, as well as winds. 225 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:17,059 After SRBs come off, now you're back to about one G. 226 00:20:17,059 --> 00:20:21,909 You have second-stage guidance, which is closed loop. 227 00:20:21,909 --> 00:20:27,390 You're sensing acceleration and orientation. 228 00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:34,390 Nowadays they often fire the OMS engines for part of liftoff as well just to get a little 229 00:20:38,669 --> 00:20:45,330 extra oomph when they're going up to the Space Station, so that's another system which is 230 00:20:45,330 --> 00:20:52,100 brought into play during ascent. 231 00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:59,100 Then you get into, after MECO, 8.5, 8.75 minutes. 232 00:21:00,370 --> 00:21:07,370 Now you have to get rid of the external tank and you've got a lot to do basically to power 233 00:21:11,279 --> 00:21:12,669 down the main engines. 234 00:21:12,669 --> 00:21:17,409 Remember, you have been burning liquid oxygen, liquid hydrogen. 235 00:21:17,409 --> 00:21:22,440 You've got a tremendous amount of ice which forms in the engine. 236 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,690 I have some pictures to show you of what that looks like when you get into orbit. 237 00:21:27,690 --> 00:21:34,200 Also, you've got thousands of pounds of hydrogen and oxygen left inside the pipes. 238 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:41,200 And if you just close your valves, eventually that will all vaporize, build up pressure 239 00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:46,090 and actually could cause an explosion. 240 00:21:46,090 --> 00:21:51,580 One of the first things that you have to do, when you get into orbit, is to vent the main 241 00:21:51,580 --> 00:21:56,570 propulsion system. 242 00:21:56,570 --> 00:22:00,240 Let's see. 243 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:06,370 Actually, Professor Cohen did not put on RCS here, which is absolutely critical, because 244 00:22:06,370 --> 00:22:11,640 you have explosive bolts to separate you from the external tank. 245 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:17,130 But basically the external tank has no propulsion on its own so you, on the Shuttle, have to 246 00:22:17,130 --> 00:22:17,820 fly away from it. 247 00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:20,159 So you use your plus Z. 248 00:22:20,159 --> 00:22:23,510 That is the downward thrusters. 249 00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:28,000 Remember we talked about how the Shuttle has two RCS systems. 250 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:34,929 It has the primary systems which have about 850 pounds of thrust for each thruster. 251 00:22:34,929 --> 00:22:39,529 And then once you're in orbit and you don't have to do a lot of propulsive maneuvering, 252 00:22:39,529 --> 00:22:45,529 then we shut down the primaries and we use the verniers which only have 25 pounds. 253 00:22:45,529 --> 00:22:46,990 That takes a lot less fuel. 254 00:22:46,990 --> 00:22:53,990 But those primary thrusters we use not only the ones in the aft but in the forward so 255 00:22:54,610 --> 00:22:55,929 that you have balanced thrust. 256 00:22:55,929 --> 00:23:02,929 If you're trying to move away from the external tank you want to fire the thrusters both in 257 00:23:02,970 --> 00:23:06,779 the nose and in the tail so that you move straight up. 258 00:23:06,779 --> 00:23:09,360 Well, we're sitting up in the nose. 259 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:15,880 And when those thrusters go off, I mean I've never been in a war or a battle, but it strikes 260 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,000 me that the sound is what you would get if mortar shells were exploding around you. 261 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,620 I mean it is just a boom. 262 00:23:23,620 --> 00:23:30,620 And right after riding through launch, the first thing that happens is you go weightless. 263 00:23:32,309 --> 00:23:37,309 But then the next thing is you're hearing these explosions all around you. 264 00:23:37,309 --> 00:23:39,679 And it can be quite exciting. 265 00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:43,110 Actually, I will just share a story with you. 266 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:50,110 On my first flight, they decided to do a special kind of a test. 267 00:23:51,390 --> 00:23:58,390 There are fill and drain valves for the main engine on the side of the Shuttle. 268 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:05,570 Usually we vent the propulsion out through the engines themselves, but they wanted to 269 00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:07,419 look for a quicker way to do it. 270 00:24:07,419 --> 00:24:08,659 Let's see. 271 00:24:08,659 --> 00:24:13,169 This was the sixteenth Shuttle flight, which was my first flight, and they gave us what 272 00:24:13,169 --> 00:24:20,080 they call a detailed test objective where right after external tank separation we opened 273 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,990 the side fill and drain valve. 274 00:24:22,990 --> 00:24:29,990 And I remember the commander asked some of the guidance and control people is the Shuttle 275 00:24:30,779 --> 00:24:36,539 RCS going to be able to compensate for the extra thrust that you get? 276 00:24:36,539 --> 00:24:40,490 They said, yeah, no problem, we've done the calculations and it looks fine. 277 00:24:40,490 --> 00:24:45,909 And this is the reason why you do tests because, in fact, what happened was we came off the 278 00:24:45,909 --> 00:24:52,909 tank, opened the fill and drain valve and the Shuttle rolled over 90 degrees and the 279 00:24:53,149 --> 00:24:59,700 RCS jets started going like crazy to try to correct us. 280 00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:03,380 They were in a force fight. 281 00:25:03,380 --> 00:25:09,279 After about 15 seconds the pilot said to the commander, do you think I should shut the 282 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:13,799 valve, because the noise was incredible. 283 00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:16,090 Like I say, it was like you were in the middle of a battlefield. 284 00:25:16,090 --> 00:25:20,289 And at that point the commander said, well, it's too late now because we had gotten through 285 00:25:20,289 --> 00:25:21,419 most of the disturbance. 286 00:25:21,419 --> 00:25:27,320 And we did recover and got to normal attitude, but it was pretty exciting. 287 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:34,320 The point is that at that point you are in a transitional state. 288 00:25:35,429 --> 00:25:40,370 Your computers are still in the launch configuration. 289 00:25:40,370 --> 00:25:42,909 You have your primary RCS. 290 00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:49,909 And what you have to do is transform the Shuttle now into an on-orbit configuration. 291 00:25:54,330 --> 00:25:57,289 The Shuttle computers are so ancient. 292 00:25:57,289 --> 00:26:04,179 Has anyone here ever, never mind used an overlay technique, but, even heard of computer overlays? 293 00:26:04,179 --> 00:26:08,470 No, I didn't think so. 294 00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:15,450 Back in the old days when computers had rather small memory and you had to run large programs, 295 00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:20,919 what you would do is you would have your entire program, well, originally it was on punch 296 00:26:20,919 --> 00:26:23,010 cards and then eventually on magnetic tape. 297 00:26:23,010 --> 00:26:29,919 But you would segment your program and then you would load the first part of your program 298 00:26:29,919 --> 00:26:31,789 as much as you could fit into memory. 299 00:26:31,789 --> 00:26:38,789 Run that, save the results, load the second part, transfer the results, run on that and 300 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,429 so on. 301 00:26:40,429 --> 00:26:43,289 Well, believe it or not, that's the way the Shuttle computers still operate. 302 00:26:43,289 --> 00:26:45,779 It is an overlay system. 303 00:26:45,779 --> 00:26:52,779 They cannot hold all the software for the entire flight so we have a launch overlay, 304 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,779 an ascent, an on-orbit and an entry. 305 00:26:58,779 --> 00:27:04,269 Now, the backup flight system is stripped down. 306 00:27:04,269 --> 00:27:09,019 And so the backup computers hold the software for the entire mission, but there are a lot 307 00:27:09,019 --> 00:27:13,429 of things that they don't do that the main computers do. 308 00:27:13,429 --> 00:27:20,429 What you actually have to do is perform what they call a major mode transition, which basically 309 00:27:22,570 --> 00:27:29,570 means you punch a few buttons, tell the computers to go into orbit mode and then all the screens 310 00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:31,850 go blank. 311 00:27:31,850 --> 00:27:34,059 I mean it is a very kind of a strange feeling. 312 00:27:34,059 --> 00:27:38,080 And you just have to sort of hold your hands and not touch anything for about a minute 313 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,440 or so while the tape recorders are spinning down in the guts of the Shuttle and they're 314 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,630 loading the stuff onto the Shuttle computers. 315 00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:53,630 Now, I think they upgraded the tape recorders to solid state, I believe. 316 00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:57,679 That's correct, isn't it? 317 00:27:57,679 --> 00:27:58,970 Do you know that? 318 00:27:58,970 --> 00:28:05,620 I don't think they use tape recorders in the Shuttle anymore, but they did, in any case, 319 00:28:05,620 --> 00:28:08,630 at the beginning. 320 00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:15,630 I mean just maintaining this computer system has been a big challenge. 321 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:25,470 And then you get into the orbit configuration. 322 00:28:26,460 --> 00:28:33,130 In the ascent configuration your vernier RCS isn't even enabled. 323 00:28:33,130 --> 00:28:38,980 And inside the ascent configuration, of course, you have not just your nominal ascent but 324 00:28:38,980 --> 00:28:44,940 you have all of the launch abort modes or return to launch site, transatlantic abort 325 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:50,830 and abort to orbit or abort once around. 326 00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:56,330 All that gets flushed, and now you are on-orbit. 327 00:28:56,330 --> 00:29:02,679 Your on-orbit software does not give you the ability to do entry and landing. 328 00:29:02,679 --> 00:29:08,169 You are going to have to re-do another overlay or what we call major mode transition before 329 00:29:08,169 --> 00:29:08,750 you do that. 330 00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:09,880 Yeah? 331 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:16,880 [AUDIENCE QUESTION] There are several different landings spots, right? 332 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,090 Right. 333 00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:27,090 [AUDIENCE QUESTION] There is always one picked as a prime, but you have the ability to re-designate 334 00:29:31,389 --> 00:29:36,889 depending on where in the ascent you run into a problem. 335 00:29:36,889 --> 00:29:43,889 [AUDIENCE QUESTION] All options are available, but there always is a prime transatlantic 336 00:29:45,929 --> 00:29:50,870 abort site which is chosen. 337 00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:57,870 And usually what happens is, I mean there are several transatlantic launch sites, sometimes 338 00:29:58,370 --> 00:30:00,659 one or more of them is down because of weather. 339 00:30:00,659 --> 00:30:05,350 And, in fact, if all of them are down, even if the weather is perfect in Florida, you 340 00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:11,690 scrub because you need to have an abort site. 341 00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:11,940 OK. I am going to show you a video now. 342 00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:57,200 OK. 343 00:30:57,130 --> 00:31:04,130 I will try to walk you through some of these. 344 00:31:08,659 --> 00:31:15,570 Remember that is the water deluge to stop the shockwave coming back. 345 00:31:15,570 --> 00:31:17,830 Now you have the stage combustion. 346 00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:21,230 These are the OMS engines, the RCS and the main engines. 347 00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:27,009 Remember we talked about the off-angle thrust. 348 00:31:27,009 --> 00:31:34,009 Those are the bolts which hold the solid boosters down. 349 00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:42,659 All eight of them have to fire at exactly the moment of SRB ignition. 350 00:31:42,659 --> 00:31:47,830 If you watch closely, when you see it go up, you can actually see it sort of moving that 351 00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:54,830 way, again, because of the off-angle thrust of the main engine. 352 00:31:55,389 --> 00:32:02,389 This is the roll maneuver which puts you -- You go over on your back, headed towards the proper 353 00:32:06,299 --> 00:32:12,210 orbit. 354 00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:19,049 And then, as you go through max dynamic pressure and break mach one, you often get those condensation 355 00:32:19,049 --> 00:32:26,049 trails. 356 00:32:27,450 --> 00:32:30,960 This is a pilot's eye view now of a Shuttle launch. 357 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,769 This is speeded up by a factor of two. 358 00:32:35,769 --> 00:32:42,769 That was the roll maneuver and the Florida coastline. 359 00:32:44,769 --> 00:32:50,799 And I always thought one of the amazing things was actually how fast the blue sky turns black 360 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:52,230 as you are going up. 361 00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:59,169 SRB separation, you're up at an altitude of about 20 miles. 362 00:32:59,169 --> 00:33:06,169 And you can see up there that very quickly the blue sky of earth is turning into the 363 00:33:07,009 --> 00:33:11,309 black of space. 364 00:33:11,309 --> 00:33:17,169 This launch was a high inclination launch so they were actually going into a 58 degree 365 00:33:17,169 --> 00:33:20,259 orbit, so they flew literally right up the Eastern seaboard. 366 00:33:20,259 --> 00:33:27,259 AUDIENCE QUESTION 367 00:33:36,669 --> 00:33:40,120 It was a SpaceLab mission, I believe, and one of the things they were going to do was 368 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,899 observe the earth so they wanted to get into as high an inclination as possible. 369 00:33:44,899 --> 00:33:51,750 Remember when Bass Redd was talking about the aerodynamics of the Shuttle he said that 370 00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:56,909 one of the things that they never were able to get quite right was the plume. 371 00:33:56,909 --> 00:34:02,600 And he talked a lot about the angle of the skirt and how that affects the aerodynamics 372 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,309 of the plume. 373 00:34:04,309 --> 00:34:11,309 And you can watch how the plume is continually changing as you are getting higher in the 374 00:34:11,418 --> 00:34:16,349 atmosphere and you have less and less pressure. 375 00:34:16,349 --> 00:34:22,260 You also notice some of the flames are getting sucked back. 376 00:34:22,260 --> 00:34:28,010 In between the Shuttle and the external tank, of course that is where we had the problems 377 00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:33,239 with the foam shutoff, you've got supersonic shockwaves bouncing around. 378 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,329 It is a very, very nasty environment in there. 379 00:34:37,329 --> 00:34:43,550 And you see, when the external tank comes off, often there is a lot of area here which 380 00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:47,460 is charred and burned out just because of the shocks. 381 00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:53,489 You can see now that the plumes are tremendously expanded. 382 00:34:53,489 --> 00:35:00,490 The other thing that you can -- Well, I will wait until SRB separation. 383 00:35:01,310 --> 00:35:08,000 As I say, you are up to about 2.5 Gs at this point, and now you can see that the solids 384 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,200 are starting to tail off. 385 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:17,560 You can see a qualitative difference in the flame pattern. 386 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,339 And now you can definitely feel this inside. 387 00:35:20,339 --> 00:35:23,369 You see the separation motors. 388 00:35:23,369 --> 00:35:25,720 The boosters fall off. 389 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:28,380 And, as you know, they were recovered. 390 00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:35,380 Making sure that the thrust tail-off matches, as we heard, was critical. 391 00:35:35,579 --> 00:35:42,230 Now here is a picture from a belly camera of the boosters falling off. 392 00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:47,010 Now the main engines are firing. 393 00:35:47,010 --> 00:35:54,010 When this happens -- I don't know if you have seen pictures of Saturn launches. 394 00:36:01,770 --> 00:36:08,220 They actually have some of the most beautiful patterns of the reentering plumes. 395 00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:13,839 But the plumes, as you get up into a vacuum, the exhaust plume expands. 396 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:20,839 And it actually folds back around the vehicle which is not a danger to the vehicle, but 397 00:36:24,190 --> 00:36:26,690 visually can be quite spectacular. 398 00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:33,690 On the first night launch of the Shuttle -- During the day the plume is so faint that you really 399 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,170 cannot see it from outside the windows. 400 00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:43,700 From the ground you can see the bright points when you're looking right at the tail of the 401 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:45,960 Shuttle but you don't actually see the plumes. 402 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:52,960 But the second flight engineer who has a good view out the overhead window, about five minutes 403 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:01,560 into launch he asked the pilot, who is in charge of looking after the main propulsion 404 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,869 system, is everything OK with the engines? 405 00:37:05,869 --> 00:37:07,020 Yeah, everything is OK. 406 00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:10,680 In about six minutes, everything OK with the engines? 407 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,109 Yeah. 408 00:37:12,109 --> 00:37:19,109 And after they were on-orbit the pilot asked him why did you keep asking me about the engines? 409 00:37:21,450 --> 00:37:22,560 Everything was fine. 410 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:29,130 Well, apparently the guy had been looking out the overhead window and had seen flames 411 00:37:29,130 --> 00:37:33,210 starting to come out which is essentially the expanding plume. 412 00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:38,400 Of course it was the first night launch so nobody had ever seen that on the Shuttle before. 413 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,030 And so you're always looking for something off nominal. 414 00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:49,829 But, as it turned out, it is just normal plume behavior. 415 00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:56,829 Now we've got a few minutes riding on the main engine to build up to orbital velocity. 416 00:37:58,859 --> 00:38:00,710 Essentially, we are flying up the Eastern seaboard. 417 00:38:00,710 --> 00:38:04,770 And it will give you some sense of the acceleration. 418 00:38:04,770 --> 00:38:10,020 Hopefully, you will recognize some of the geography. 419 00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:17,020 When they talk about taking the Shuttle from Washington to Boston or back, this is the 420 00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:25,060 real thing. 421 00:38:25,060 --> 00:38:32,060 It takes about 8 minutes, 8.5 minutes, to get from Cape Canaveral to Cape Cod. 422 00:38:37,579 --> 00:38:39,250 There is Long Island coming up. 423 00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:45,880 I heard Plattsburgh, New York was an alternate landing site? 424 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,550 Yeah. 425 00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:48,940 We are really moving at this point. 426 00:38:48,940 --> 00:38:53,790 You're going about five miles a second orbital velocity. 427 00:38:53,790 --> 00:38:55,400 There is Cape Cod. 428 00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:02,400 And now you will see a little bit of a pitch as we separate from the tank. 429 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:17,470 And here, again, is the belly camera as the tank comes off. 430 00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:28,660 And you can see these little charred patterns in here. 431 00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:35,660 That is where the big piece of foam came off which destroyed the Columbia. 432 00:39:36,569 --> 00:39:43,569 We've talked about, for its orbital operation, it was all the different things that the Shuttle 433 00:39:58,819 --> 00:40:03,089 was supposed to do that really drove the design. 434 00:40:03,089 --> 00:40:08,380 Speaking of which, how did things go last Thursday? 435 00:40:08,380 --> 00:40:12,359 Colonel Young gave the lecture on the military. 436 00:40:12,359 --> 00:40:19,359 I haven't had a chance to talk with him yet but hopefully maybe he had some new insights. 437 00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:25,809 I know we talked a lot already about military requirements. 438 00:40:25,809 --> 00:40:32,809 But, in addition to launching large satellites, of course we have repaired satellites, we 439 00:40:35,260 --> 00:40:41,290 have done science experiments, we have done a lot of educational activities. 440 00:40:41,290 --> 00:40:48,119 And I am not going to deal with those subsystems so much now. 441 00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:55,119 Remember that the computers now really don't deal with the main propulsion system anymore. 442 00:40:59,130 --> 00:41:06,130 The only thing that you have to be concerned about generally in orbit you still have to 443 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:13,680 maintain thermal control over all of the parts of the Shuttle, so the thermal subsystem is 444 00:41:14,980 --> 00:41:17,980 very critical. 445 00:41:17,980 --> 00:41:20,069 We talked about the problems with hydrazine. 446 00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:27,069 If hydrazine freezes and then it expands when it thaws it can break the lines. 447 00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:29,290 Hydrazine leaks are very nasty. 448 00:41:29,290 --> 00:41:36,290 We had one instance on a Shuttle flight where one of the thrusters did develop a leak, and 449 00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:44,650 you could just see the exhaust coming out of it until they shut off the isolation valve. 450 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:56,000 There are several sets of RCS thrusters, each of which is connected to the tanks by a set 451 00:41:57,390 --> 00:42:00,450 of isolation valves. 452 00:42:00,450 --> 00:42:05,010 You have essentially triple redundancy in your reaction control system. 453 00:42:05,010 --> 00:42:10,990 And if any one of the systems develops a leak you can isolate individual thrusters to tell 454 00:42:10,990 --> 00:42:17,990 them not to fire if it's a leak which only occurs when you fire it, or you can shut down 455 00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:22,559 an isolation valve for an entire set of jets. 456 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:29,119 I won't go into great details but we talked about the importance of redundancy. 457 00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:34,740 And that is one of the ways that it is built in. 458 00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:35,319 Let's see. 459 00:42:35,319 --> 00:42:39,660 What else do we want to say about subsystems during orbit? 460 00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:46,660 What are some of the other subsystems which get called into play for orbital operations? 461 00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:50,740 Environmental subsystems. 462 00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:51,339 Environmental. 463 00:42:51,339 --> 00:42:56,119 Is that controlled by the computer or is that kind of done separate and automated? 464 00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:59,730 A little bit of both. 465 00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:06,730 For instance, pressure valves are mechanical so they will open at a specific pressure mechanically. 466 00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:16,910 If you have an overpressure or you set your, we have different settings. 467 00:43:21,630 --> 00:43:24,800 The normal setting is for sea 0:43:20.526 level atmosphere. 468 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,359 And, of course, you have to balance the oxygen and the nitrogen. 469 00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:33,200 And so there is a fairly complex algorithm. 470 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,940 Well, it is fairly simple, I suppose. 471 00:43:34,940 --> 00:43:41,220 But there is an algorithm which senses both the overall pressure and the oxygen partial 472 00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:47,079 pressure so that if your pressure goes down a little bit, the system has to know whether 473 00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:52,839 to open up the oxygen valve or the nitrogen valve. 474 00:43:52,839 --> 00:43:59,839 Also, if we are going to be doing extended space walks, and I will be giving a talk on 475 00:44:00,550 --> 00:44:06,869 the airlock and the spacesuit and the other systems that get involved in space walks, 476 00:44:06,869 --> 00:44:12,130 so I won't go into that in detail here, but we actually have to bring the cabin down to 477 00:44:12,130 --> 00:44:16,309 two-thirds of an atmosphere, 10.2 pounds per square inch. 478 00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:22,079 We keep the partial pressure of oxygen at sea level so that raises the oxygen concentration 479 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:22,869 to about 30%. 480 00:44:22,869 --> 00:44:28,829 And the reason we do that is to purge the nitrogen out of our bodies so that you don't 481 00:44:28,829 --> 00:44:35,720 get the bends when you go down to the 4 psi, at pure oxygen, which is what we run our suits 482 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:39,470 at. 483 00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:46,470 At that point, we actually have to trick the system because they didn't build in a 10.2 484 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,250 controller. They have a 14.7 psi controller. 485 00:44:56,150 --> 00:45:01,339 But, in any case, that we control manually. 486 00:45:01,339 --> 00:45:08,339 And we basically bring the cabin down to 10.2 psi. 487 00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:11,900 Humidity control, we have the water system. 488 00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:18,900 Of course, we make a lot of water with our fuel cells for the electrical power system. 489 00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,400 There are five different water tanks. 490 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,250 One of the tanks is sterilized for drinking. 491 00:45:25,250 --> 00:45:31,480 In the early days they put too much iodine in the water. 492 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,430 In fact, when I came back from my first flight my teeth were totally brown. 493 00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:40,230 The dentist had a fit, and they actually have cut back on that. 494 00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:43,339 And the water is actually reasonably palatable at this point. 495 00:45:43,339 --> 00:45:47,210 You couldn't drink it early on unless you mixed it with Kool-Aid or Tang or something, 496 00:45:47,210 --> 00:45:51,849 which is even worse, but that's another story. 497 00:45:51,849 --> 00:45:58,770 The rest of the water tanks, there is just a lot more water than anybody can drink, and 498 00:45:58,770 --> 00:46:02,859 so those are called supply water tanks. 499 00:46:02,859 --> 00:46:06,730 And we use that water for cooling. 500 00:46:06,730 --> 00:46:10,480 Remember that is another part of the environmental control system. 501 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,130 We have talked about all of these a little bit. 502 00:46:13,130 --> 00:46:17,210 This is just kind of a review. 503 00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:22,270 Remember that during ascent, once you get above 100,000 feet and during the early time 504 00:46:22,270 --> 00:46:29,270 on-orbit, we get rid of excess heat by water boiler. 505 00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:36,420 Now, it is an interesting system, a multi-component system. 506 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:47,800 Out in the cargo bay we use Freon to bring the heat through the radiators. 507 00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:54,400 First it goes through the radiators, and so once the payload bay doors are open, particularly 508 00:46:54,400 --> 00:47:00,770 if you're pointed away from the sun, you can radiate a lot of heat. 509 00:47:00,770 --> 00:47:07,770 After the Freon runs through the radiators, if it is still hot, you can activate the water 510 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,260 boilers. 511 00:47:09,260 --> 00:47:14,869 And so if the payload bay doors are closed or if there is some problem with the radiators 512 00:47:14,869 --> 00:47:19,010 and you need excess cooling capacity you activate the water spray boilers. 513 00:47:19,010 --> 00:47:26,010 Now the water boilers, if that is your only cooling system, they use water at a rate faster 514 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,609 than the fuel cells produce it. 515 00:47:31,609 --> 00:47:37,309 If you cannot get your payload bay doors open -- and that is part of the whole mechanisms, 516 00:47:37,309 --> 00:47:43,329 remember, which Henry Pohl talked about -- if you cannot get your payload doors open within 517 00:47:43,329 --> 00:47:49,890 a few hours, you have to turn around and come home because you will run out of water. 518 00:47:49,890 --> 00:47:54,309 Now, on the other hand, how do you get the heat out of the crew cabin? 519 00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:59,530 You don't want Freon running around the crew cabin because it is nasty stuff if you develop 520 00:47:59,530 --> 00:48:01,500 a leak. 521 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:06,040 There are actually two ways. 522 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:12,990 First of all, you circulate the cabin air which gets heated up both by the people and 523 00:48:12,990 --> 00:48:14,270 the electronics. 524 00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:20,160 And you run the cabin air through a heat exchanger where it dumps its heat into a cold water 525 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:20,410 loop. And the cold water loop takes cabin heat, and then the cold water loop is also circulated 526 00:48:26,369 --> 00:48:27,670 by some of the electronics. 527 00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:31,000 Some of the electronics are air-cooled. 528 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:38,000 And, of course, there is no density driven thermal convection in weightlessness. 529 00:48:39,579 --> 00:48:43,349 You have to have forced-air convection, so there are fans all over the place blowing 530 00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:50,349 air at the electronics and at the crew as well. 531 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:59,079 And these are all small fans running at very high RPM and so they tend to be very noisy. 532 00:49:00,130 --> 00:49:07,130 In fact, the typical environment in a space cabin is dominated by high-pitched fan noise. 533 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:15,640 In fact, it gets so bad that in the Russian Mir, we found this once US astronauts starting 534 00:49:16,730 --> 00:49:22,000 to fly up there, it was actually causing permanent hearing damage in a lot of crew members. 535 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:29,000 And people were having to wear earplugs or headphones while they were working near some 536 00:49:30,190 --> 00:49:30,980 of the equipment. 537 00:49:30,980 --> 00:49:37,980 From a human factors point of view, to have earplugs in and then somebody tries to call 538 00:49:39,230 --> 00:49:42,859 to you from the next module because there is an emergency, that is not a good deal. 539 00:49:42,859 --> 00:49:45,369 Yeah. 540 00:49:45,369 --> 00:49:52,369 [AUDIENCE QUESTION] No. 541 00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:59,900 There are a lot of electrical signals up there because the crew uses wireless headsets, but 542 00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:03,470 everything is checked for electromagnetic compatibility. 543 00:50:03,470 --> 00:50:08,450 And, in fact, if you try to fly a payload on the Shuttle or the Station, you have to 544 00:50:08,450 --> 00:50:15,450 pass a lot of EMC compatibility testing. 545 00:50:16,460 --> 00:50:21,000 Anyway, the water from the cabin, which is taking the heat both from the air and the 546 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:28,000 electronics, is then taken out of the cabin and passed through a water Freon heat exchanger. 547 00:50:28,490 --> 00:50:33,890 And then the Freon takes the heat further aft where it is dumped into the radiator or 548 00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:40,760 the water spray boiler. 549 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,059 Cabin air revitalization. 550 00:50:45,059 --> 00:50:47,299 We re-breathe the air. 551 00:50:47,299 --> 00:50:52,730 It's not like in scuba diving where you take a breath of air and then you just blow it 552 00:50:52,730 --> 00:50:53,549 all away. 553 00:50:53,549 --> 00:50:59,040 We cannot afford that so the air is re-breathed, which means you have to scrub out the carbon 554 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,020 dioxide. 555 00:51:00,020 --> 00:51:07,020 The Shuttle is not designed for long duration, and so we use lithium hydroxide scrubbers, 556 00:51:08,290 --> 00:51:13,670 lithium hydroxide plus carbon dioxide makes lithium carbonate plus water plus heat. 557 00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:20,540 And so those are canisters which have to be replaced twice a day. 558 00:51:20,540 --> 00:51:27,510 And, in fact, the preparation for replacing the lithium hydroxide scrubbers is you have 559 00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:34,510 to turn the cabin fans off so you don't get a lot of air going through the cylinders where 560 00:51:38,839 --> 00:51:41,140 you put the scrubbers. 561 00:51:41,140 --> 00:51:48,140 For that one minute, you can actually appreciate the peace and quiet of being in orbit. 562 00:51:48,990 --> 00:51:52,200 And then you turn the fans on again and you realize how noisy it is. 563 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,510 Because, after a while, you get used to it and you don't hear the noise until you turn 564 00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:59,530 it off. 565 00:51:59,530 --> 00:52:02,150 So, that's air revitalization system. 566 00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:03,780 Humidity separation. 567 00:52:03,780 --> 00:52:10,780 You're pumping out a lot of humidity in your sweat, and that is put through a cooler and 568 00:52:12,990 --> 00:52:17,440 essentially a centrifugal, they call it a slinger which gets rid of the water. 569 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:23,210 And that goes into the wastewater tank, along with urine from the waste collection system. 570 00:52:23,210 --> 00:52:24,700 And that is also dumped overboard. 571 00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:31,700 There are separate dumps for the supply water and the waste water. 572 00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:41,319 And, when the water is dumped overboard, of course up in orbit the pressure is below the 573 00:52:43,180 --> 00:52:47,950 triple point of water so liquid water cannot exist. 574 00:52:47,950 --> 00:52:54,950 You either have gaseous water vapor or ice. 575 00:52:55,150 --> 00:53:02,150 And so, as soon as the water comes out the wastewater dump valve, it solidifies. 576 00:53:04,890 --> 00:53:10,559 And you get essentially a snowstorm blowing away from you. 577 00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:16,960 And, if the sun is lighting it up in just the right way, it can be quite spectacular. 578 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:22,950 If I have time, I will show you a picture of that. 579 00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:23,200 Let's see. 580 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,030 Other on-orbit systems? 581 00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:29,750 Of course, we have the payload systems. 582 00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:36,750 We talked about the remote manipulator, the robotic arm. 583 00:53:37,490 --> 00:53:44,490 Anything else? 584 00:53:47,230 --> 00:53:54,230 [AUDIENCE QUESTION] The crew uses lots of checklists and cue cards. 585 00:53:59,970 --> 00:54:06,970 Typically, the center of the front cockpit has mostly the airplane-type controls which 586 00:54:08,589 --> 00:54:10,510 you use for flying the Shuttle. 587 00:54:10,510 --> 00:54:13,869 The systems controls tend to be around the sides. 588 00:54:13,869 --> 00:54:19,970 And then the controls for doing rendezvous and operating payloads are in the aft part 589 00:54:19,970 --> 00:54:21,400 of the cockpit. 590 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:28,400 The forward center cockpit is not used very much when you're on-orbit. 591 00:54:28,589 --> 00:54:31,760 Overhead panels is mostly OMS and RCS. 592 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,329 And then electrical stuff is over the right. 593 00:54:36,329 --> 00:54:41,270 And environmental control is over on the left. 594 00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:48,270 [AUDIENCE QUESTION] Yes. 595 00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:55,819 During the early phases of the rendezvous, when you cannot see anything, typically the 596 00:54:55,819 --> 00:54:58,710 commander and the pilot will sit in the front seats. 597 00:54:58,710 --> 00:55:05,710 But once you get close enough to have visual contact, you typically don't approach straight 598 00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:12,910 on, you typically approach with your payload bay pointing towards the object you're rendezvousing 599 00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:14,089 with. That way the rendezvous radar can pick it up. 600 00:55:19,559 --> 00:55:26,559 There is a rendezvous radar system, KU band radar, which is on the starboard side. 601 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,970 And there are also star trackers which can pick it up when it is farther away. 602 00:55:32,970 --> 00:55:36,520 And then visually you just look out the overhead windows. 603 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:43,520 And so you control the final phases of the rendezvous, which we call proximity operations, 604 00:55:44,369 --> 00:55:45,289 from the aft flight deck. 605 00:55:45,289 --> 00:55:48,760 And there is a controller stick there. 606 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,339 And, actually, it is interesting. 607 00:55:53,339 --> 00:55:54,940 This is part of the human factors. 608 00:55:54,940 --> 00:56:01,940 Both for controlling the manipulator arm and the Shuttle, there is a switch. 609 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:09,260 For instance, there is a translational hand controller and a rotational hand controller. 610 00:56:09,260 --> 00:56:16,260 The translational is to make the Orbiter go in plus or minus X, Z or Y. 611 00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:27,940 Normally, you think of the Shuttle, when you push the stick back, you want the Shuttle 612 00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:31,829 to go in the direction of the stick. 613 00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:36,520 And so that would be a plus or minus X, which is along the long axis of the Shuttle. 614 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,990 And that is the way the forward controller works. 615 00:56:38,990 --> 00:56:42,510 And you can set the back controller up so that it is just the inverse of the forward 616 00:56:42,510 --> 00:56:46,130 controller so, when you push on the stick, the Shuttle goes backwards. 617 00:56:46,130 --> 00:56:53,130 But, when you are actually looking out the window and you see the object -- the Space 618 00:56:53,230 --> 00:56:58,280 Station, or Hubble or whatever you're rendezvousing with -- is ahead of you and you want to go 619 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,289 towards it, you would like to be able to push the stick. 620 00:57:01,289 --> 00:57:08,289 And so what they've done is, here is the upper window, they have the stick actually at an angle. 621 00:57:20,460 --> 00:57:25,880 Depending on how you set the switch, you can make it so that when you push on that stick 622 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:32,880 it gives you a minus X or you can put it in the Z mode so when you push the stick it gives 623 00:57:34,170 --> 00:57:37,910 you a minus Z. 624 00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:40,440 And that is a nice human factor. 625 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:47,440 They have a similar situation for the manipulator arm. 626 00:57:48,980 --> 00:57:55,980 On the end of the end effector, when you're coming into a grapple fixture, there are actually 627 00:58:01,510 --> 00:58:03,619 three wires inside the end effector. 628 00:58:03,619 --> 00:58:10,619 And those actually are moved around like so, so that they tighten up over the little knob. 629 00:58:13,289 --> 00:58:17,720 But there is a camera up here. 630 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:24,720 And then above the grapple fixture there is kind of a bull's-eye with a little stick on 631 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,470 it. 632 00:58:29,470 --> 00:58:31,059 The stick is like this. 633 00:58:31,059 --> 00:58:38,059 And if you're off to the side a little bit you can see by the angle on the stick both 634 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:45,349 how you are in translation and in the attitude of the end effector. 635 00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:50,609 The thing is when you're actually flying the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) and you're looking out the 636 00:58:50,609 --> 00:58:57,609 window, I might want to be able to push the translational hand controller and the end 637 00:58:59,250 --> 00:59:02,069 effector will move away from me in the cargo bay. 638 00:59:02,069 --> 00:59:05,200 That is called a Shuttle Coordinate Mode. 639 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,770 And they have a nice setup. 640 00:59:07,770 --> 00:59:11,940 Again, this was from a lot of human factor studies. 641 00:59:11,940 --> 00:59:17,200 You can then go into a different mode when you're actually bringing the end effector 642 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:22,260 right up to the docking fixture where you switch over into what they call end-effector 643 00:59:22,260 --> 00:59:23,099 mode. 644 00:59:23,099 --> 00:59:30,099 Now, I am actually looking in the television picture and I see this image. 645 00:59:35,250 --> 00:59:39,339 And I want to correct it and I want to move to the side a little bit and go in, but I 646 00:59:39,339 --> 00:59:42,839 want to do that in the frame of reference of the end effector. 647 00:59:42,839 --> 00:59:47,710 And so by going into end-effector mode, when I'm working the translational and rotational 648 00:59:47,710 --> 00:59:52,119 hand controller, it actually works around that coordinate system. 649 00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:57,640 And there are actually two other coordinate systems for different types of payload operations. 650 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:04,640 They have done a lot of work in these systems essentially to use computer-assisted modes 651 01:00:09,660 --> 01:00:16,660 to make it easier to operate both the robotic and also the Shuttle rendezvous and docking 652 01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:17,119 system. 653 01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:22,660 What else do we want to say about on-orbit? 654 01:00:22,660 --> 01:00:24,849 That will probably do it. 655 01:00:24,849 --> 01:00:29,190 Let's take a two-minute break and then we will move ahead to entry. 656 01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:36,190 Enough of a stretch. 657 01:00:36,309 --> 01:00:36,799 Yeah? 658 01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:43,799 Before we leave the on-orbit part, how much of the crews' time was taken up with changing 659 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:52,760 the carbon dioxide scrubbers, dumping wastewater, just the general like you've got to do it 660 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,369 to survive stuff versus [UNINTELLIGIBLE]? 661 01:00:59,369 --> 01:01:06,369 Typically one person can take care of most of the on-orbit just maintenance activities. 662 01:01:13,890 --> 01:01:20,890 You have to do things like periodically check your filters. 663 01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:26,859 Every one or two days you have to go through with a vacuum cleaner and clear your filters. 664 01:01:26,859 --> 01:01:30,020 You have to change the lithium hydroxide. 665 01:01:30,020 --> 01:01:34,990 There you want somebody to help to turn off the cabin fans while the person downstairs 666 01:01:34,990 --> 01:01:40,089 is changing them out. 667 01:01:40,089 --> 01:01:43,760 Periodically clean the toilet. 668 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:44,930 Prepare food. 669 01:01:44,930 --> 01:01:51,930 I would say more or less one person around the clock can take care of most of the things 670 01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:53,190 that have to get done, if nothing goes wrong. 671 01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:56,700 You kind of alternate between crew members? 672 01:01:56,700 --> 01:01:56,950 Yeah. 673 01:01:56,930 --> 01:02:03,930 Typically, you can have either a one shift or a two shift flight, depending on whether 674 01:02:05,069 --> 01:02:08,510 your payload requires 24-hour operations. 675 01:02:08,510 --> 01:02:15,510 And typically the pilot and the commander are considered to be the Orbiter crew, and 676 01:02:17,170 --> 01:02:20,069 so they will take care of Orbiter-related things. 677 01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:27,069 And other people concentrate more on the payload or doing space walks or whatever the mission 678 01:02:28,029 --> 01:02:30,359 is about. 679 01:02:30,359 --> 01:02:35,859 Everybody is more or less trained to perform maintenance activities so you can share the 680 01:02:35,859 --> 01:02:42,859 load, but typically with a crew of six or seven you have the luxury of specialization. 681 01:02:48,619 --> 01:02:49,410 Let's see. 682 01:02:49,410 --> 01:02:55,849 I spoke at length about what goes on during entry so I am not going to go through all 683 01:02:55,849 --> 01:02:56,430 that again. 684 01:02:56,430 --> 01:03:01,849 I will just run the video here to remind you. 685 01:03:01,849 --> 01:03:08,849 But do remember, again, before you are ready to do your de-orbit burn once again you have 686 01:03:11,069 --> 01:03:15,490 to reconfigure your computer system. 687 01:03:15,490 --> 01:03:21,329 Again, everybody gets in their seats, hands-off because you don't want to throw any switches, 688 01:03:21,329 --> 01:03:25,609 and you definitely don't want to touch the computer while it is going through this major 689 01:03:25,609 --> 01:03:26,760 mode reconfiguration. 690 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,140 It is sort of like when your computer is booting up, you don't want to mess with anything around. 691 01:03:31,140 --> 01:03:34,660 You just keep your hands off. 692 01:03:34,660 --> 01:03:41,660 Once you are in the de-orbit and entry major mode, that is actually then subdivided into 693 01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:54,250 sub-modes where one of the software loads controls your de-orbit burn and then another 694 01:03:54,250 --> 01:04:00,150 one is in effect while you are essentially in free fall before you hit the atmosphere. 695 01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:06,279 And then, once you hit the atmosphere, you go through a series of sub-modes depending 696 01:04:06,279 --> 01:04:07,390 on your altitude. 697 01:04:07,390 --> 01:04:14,390 And remember we spoke about how the flight control system continually has to upgrade 698 01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:21,230 its flight control laws depending on the atmospheric condition, so you need to know your nav. 699 01:04:21,230 --> 01:04:23,400 state. 700 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:29,339 And then finally it switches into the final approach and landing mode when you go around 701 01:04:29,339 --> 01:04:31,460 the heading alignment circle. 702 01:04:31,460 --> 01:04:35,440 That is the final step, which I don't think we talked about. 703 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:41,609 Remember I pointed out to you that since the Shuttle is a glider that energy management 704 01:04:41,609 --> 01:04:44,130 is absolutely critical. 705 01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:48,029 And so you always come in with a little bit more energy than you are going to need because 706 01:04:48,029 --> 01:04:53,359 it is easier to bleed the energy off through a series of S turns. 707 01:04:53,359 --> 01:05:00,359 And then they make the transition when you're essentially mach 2 or mach 3 and you are over 708 01:05:01,230 --> 01:05:07,190 the landing field, either in Florida or in California. 709 01:05:07,190 --> 01:05:14,190 If this is your landing runway, a regular airplane will typically do a downwind, a base 710 01:05:16,260 --> 01:05:19,210 and then come in for a landing. 711 01:05:19,210 --> 01:05:26,210 With the Shuttle, we actually want a much larger pattern to give you more opportunity 712 01:05:26,369 --> 01:05:27,400 for energy control. 713 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:34,400 At about 50,000 feet the Shuttle should be essentially overhead. 714 01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:38,809 And then it makes a big spiral. 715 01:05:38,809 --> 01:05:43,380 And, since you're in this big spiral, you have the option of either making the spiral 716 01:05:43,380 --> 01:05:47,980 slightly bigger or slightly smaller in order to control your energy. 717 01:05:47,980 --> 01:05:53,730 If you're a little bit too hot, have too much energy, then you make your spiral a little 718 01:05:53,730 --> 01:05:54,430 bit bigger. 719 01:05:54,430 --> 01:05:57,779 If you are a little low on energy you make your spiral smaller. 720 01:05:57,779 --> 01:06:04,779 But by having every landing end in this spiral which you can adjust the radius, but the basic 721 01:06:10,660 --> 01:06:15,538 procedure and navigation is not going to change from flight to flight, so that makes the whole 722 01:06:15,538 --> 01:06:19,859 training process much easier. 723 01:06:19,859 --> 01:06:26,859 You go into the so-called heading alignment circle and the pilot does have energy displays 724 01:06:28,490 --> 01:06:32,069 available so you get predictors. 725 01:06:32,069 --> 01:06:38,700 It tells you where you will be 30 seconds, one minute and 90 seconds in the future. 726 01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:42,559 You get a vertical display showing your energy, a horizontal display. 727 01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:47,680 Unfortunately, and this is something for the people who are looking at displays, the horizontal 728 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,990 and the vertical displays are not well integrated. 729 01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:57,260 In the talk that some of you heard on the cockpit electronics upgrade, they had some 730 01:06:57,260 --> 01:07:01,500 plans to upgrade that and have a unified landing display. 731 01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:04,779 But at the moment we don't have that. 732 01:07:04,779 --> 01:07:11,779 There is active guidance so that there are guidance needles which you can fly to. 733 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:17,400 And, of course, the pilots are well enough trained that they are using their out-the-window 734 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:23,170 cues as well to make sure that they get the right visual picture just in case something 735 01:07:23,170 --> 01:07:24,849 should be wrong with guidance. 736 01:07:24,849 --> 01:07:25,869 Yeah. 737 01:07:25,869 --> 01:07:31,010 This is a ways back. 738 01:07:31,010 --> 01:07:38,010 How noticeable are the big changes in acceleration during like SRB separation or de-tail? 739 01:07:42,670 --> 01:07:49,670 SRB separation, as I said, right before SRB tail-off, F equals MA and the force is pretty 740 01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:55,309 much constant at that point, but the mass is decelerating because you're burning a ton 741 01:07:55,309 --> 01:07:58,900 of fuel, over a ton per second. 742 01:07:58,900 --> 01:08:00,630 So the acceleration is increasing. 743 01:08:00,630 --> 01:08:07,538 And you've built up to about 2.5 Gs when the SRBs finally tail-off. 744 01:08:07,538 --> 01:08:12,710 Then you drop down to about one G. 745 01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:13,549 You're sitting in your seat. 746 01:08:13,549 --> 01:08:15,839 This is one G into your chest. 747 01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:20,470 Remember at this point the Shuttle is kind of upside down. 748 01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:27,470 And, since you haven't achieved orbital velocity yet, you still have some weight pulling you 749 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,330 out of the seat. 750 01:08:28,330 --> 01:08:30,490 But you are strapped into the seat. 751 01:08:30,490 --> 01:08:33,890 And mostly you feel yourself pulled back into the seat. 752 01:08:33,890 --> 01:08:39,250 And, of course, as your velocity increases and you get closer and closer to orbital velocity 753 01:08:39,250 --> 01:08:45,950 then the downward acceleration to the earth essentially matches more and more the acceleration 754 01:08:45,950 --> 01:08:49,870 of the Shuttle itself until, by the time you're in orbit, you are in freefall. 755 01:08:49,870 --> 01:08:56,870 MECO is different. 756 01:08:57,729 --> 01:09:00,750 The same thing happens. 757 01:09:00,750 --> 01:09:05,840 The main engines are working at maximum, well, 104% thrust. 758 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,080 We don't take them up to the 109% which is emergency only. 759 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:16,080 They are working at 104% thrust and your acceleration now starts to pick up. 760 01:09:17,109 --> 01:09:20,830 After about seven minutes you've gotten up to 3 Gs. 761 01:09:20,830 --> 01:09:23,559 And the Shuttle was designed for a 3 G maximum. 762 01:09:23,559 --> 01:09:28,250 They wanted to have smooth, easy right for the payloads. 763 01:09:28,250 --> 01:09:35,250 And they also wanted to make it possible for nonprofessional astronauts to fly on the Shuttle 764 01:09:35,729 --> 01:09:38,309 as well, the payload specialist scientists. 765 01:09:38,309 --> 01:09:45,100 The engines start to throttle down in order to hold your acceleration to 3 Gs. 766 01:09:45,100 --> 01:09:52,100 And they throttle down eventually to about 65% right at MECO. 767 01:09:53,430 --> 01:10:00,430 So you are sitting in your seat pulling 3 Gs, eyeballs-in, for the last minute and a 768 01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:03,000 half or so. 769 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:10,000 3 Gs is not particularly comfortable but, on the other hand, any healthy person can 770 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,250 tolerate 3 Gs for a minute or two. 771 01:10:13,250 --> 01:10:17,330 It is not a real big deal. 772 01:10:17,330 --> 01:10:21,120 There have been concerns. 773 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:26,250 If the pilots have to reach some of the overhead switches to reconfigure the OMS or the RCS 774 01:10:26,250 --> 01:10:31,470 at 3 Gs, could they actually reach it? 775 01:10:31,470 --> 01:10:38,470 And some of the shorter pilots decided, with the Gs, they probably couldn't. 776 01:10:38,770 --> 01:10:45,140 And so they actually made a special tool, we called it a swizzle stick. 777 01:10:45,140 --> 01:10:52,040 It is an aluminum rod about, I don't know, 80 centimeters long, that has an interface 778 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,720 so you can actually use that. 779 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,390 And you have a little mirror if you need it as well so that you can flick the overhead 780 01:10:57,390 --> 01:10:59,990 switches when you're pulling Gs. 781 01:10:59,990 --> 01:11:05,100 You cannot ignore human factors in these things when you're designing it. 782 01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:07,580 If you've really got to flip those switches. 783 01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:11,390 And it is not just the problem of being able to reach it. 784 01:11:11,390 --> 01:11:15,559 It's also you have a helmet on. 785 01:11:15,559 --> 01:11:21,180 And, when you're pulling 3 Gs, your helmet which may have weighed 15 pounds now weighs 786 01:11:21,180 --> 01:11:22,430 45 pounds. 787 01:11:22,430 --> 01:11:25,790 And so you really cannot move your head around very much. 788 01:11:25,790 --> 01:11:32,160 And so just being able to pull yourself away from the seat and look up, you cannot do at 789 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,790 3 Gs. 790 01:11:33,790 --> 01:11:39,380 So you do need some assistance there. 791 01:11:39,380 --> 01:11:46,380 In principle, for future designs, I would think taking advantage of the ability to send 792 01:11:51,970 --> 01:11:57,080 commands through computers would make a lot of that easier, if your computer is within 793 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,970 easy reach. 794 01:11:58,970 --> 01:12:05,890 This was the early days of fly-by-wire and people felt that they really wanted to have 795 01:12:05,890 --> 01:12:07,870 a hard switch that they could throw. 796 01:12:07,870 --> 01:12:14,480 But, in fact, in most cases, not all, but in most cases the switches go through the 797 01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:15,559 computer system. 798 01:12:15,559 --> 01:12:20,330 And it is possible, in fact, to go into the guts of the computer. 799 01:12:20,330 --> 01:12:23,080 And all the switches tend to be multiple pole. 800 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:28,960 I am getting into some of the details now, maybe more than ever wanted to know, but just 801 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,130 to give you an idea of the levels of redundancy that they have. 802 01:12:33,130 --> 01:12:37,610 Every switch has multiple poles, and it is possible that you can get a little solder 803 01:12:37,610 --> 01:12:44,610 ball or a little piece of wire or just one of the pole units that stops working. 804 01:12:46,270 --> 01:12:53,170 You can actually call up that switch on the computer and disable one or more of the poles 805 01:12:53,170 --> 01:12:57,940 or you can disable the entire switch and take over computer control of the switch. 806 01:12:57,940 --> 01:13:00,600 Like I say, most of the switches work like that. 807 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,410 Not all of them. 808 01:13:01,410 --> 01:13:08,020 But it is very much a computer-controlled system. 809 01:13:08,020 --> 01:13:08,770 Yeah? 810 01:13:08,770 --> 01:13:15,770 How does the acceleration compare to a de-orbit burn? 811 01:13:17,210 --> 01:13:20,150 De-orbit burn is interesting. 812 01:13:20,150 --> 01:13:26,480 When two OMS engines fire they only produce about a tenth of G acceleration. 813 01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:33,480 However, you have been weightless for a week, a month, six months depending what your mission 814 01:13:33,809 --> 01:13:34,160 has been. 815 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:41,160 And I will tell you, the Shuttle is accelerating forward, although you're actually going backwards. 816 01:13:44,110 --> 01:13:51,110 But internally, the Shuttle is accelerating forward, so everything wants to go aft. 817 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,960 And, in fact, it is kind of fun. 818 01:13:53,960 --> 01:14:00,960 We have done just experiments and taking pictures of it where you can actually pour water at 819 01:14:03,250 --> 01:14:08,520 a tenth of a G and watch the water slowly go through an arc into a cup. 820 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,970 And then, of course, you've got to get it closed up before the burn stops. 821 01:14:12,970 --> 01:14:19,970 And you can take a little pencil and push it in the y-axis and watch it gradually curve 822 01:14:24,750 --> 01:14:25,559 as you're accelerating. 823 01:14:25,559 --> 01:14:32,180 It is only a tenth of a G but, I will tell you, it feels like you're pressed against 824 01:14:32,180 --> 01:14:38,390 the wall if you're not sitting in your seat, just because you haven't been experiencing 825 01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:40,180 any acceleration for all that time. 826 01:14:40,180 --> 01:14:45,559 And then it gets a lot worse, as you hit the atmosphere. 827 01:14:45,559 --> 01:14:49,210 By that time hopefully you are sitting in your seat. 828 01:14:49,210 --> 01:14:51,280 It is kind of interesting. 829 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:57,390 What I tended to like to do is keep a pencil sort of floating in front of me. 830 01:14:57,390 --> 01:15:02,580 And, after a while, you see very slowly the pencil is starting to come down. 831 01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:07,960 And then you would pick it up and then it is coming a little faster. 832 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:13,570 One of the early things that you realize, you know, if you've seen pictures of people 833 01:15:13,570 --> 01:15:16,230 in orbit, you're hands are always floating up here. 834 01:15:16,230 --> 01:15:21,530 The same thing as if you go into a swimming pool, just hold your breath and float under 835 01:15:21,530 --> 01:15:22,830 water. 836 01:15:22,830 --> 01:15:27,630 Your natural total relaxed body position is sort of bent over a little bit and your hands 837 01:15:27,630 --> 01:15:28,540 are out front. 838 01:15:28,540 --> 01:15:29,110 Try it some time. 839 01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:33,300 It is quite relaxed, quite comfortable. 840 01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:35,210 And it was a strange feeling. 841 01:15:35,210 --> 01:15:38,270 Again, I got used to it after my first entry. 842 01:15:38,270 --> 01:15:42,770 But the first time, when I realized that I was sitting in my seat and my hands were actually 843 01:15:42,770 --> 01:15:46,100 in my lap, and that hadn't happened. 844 01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:50,900 I had realized all the time before that your hands were sort of floating out there. 845 01:15:50,900 --> 01:15:56,850 And then I reached for the camera to take a picture out the window of the shockwaves 846 01:15:56,850 --> 01:16:02,270 behind the Shuttle, and all of a sudden it has got weight. 847 01:16:02,270 --> 01:16:08,920 It is amazing how the human mind can get used to a very bizarre situation, you know, like 848 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:15,620 weightlessness, such that when you get back it feels strange. 849 01:16:15,620 --> 01:16:17,030 It doesn't stay strange for long. 850 01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:24,030 I mean you grew up in one G and your body has a pretty good memory, so it doesn't take 851 01:16:25,460 --> 01:16:26,460 long to get back. 852 01:16:26,460 --> 01:16:33,460 But there are potential vestibular problems. 853 01:16:33,470 --> 01:16:38,270 We have people in the Manned Vehicle Lab who have spent their lifetimes studying some of 854 01:16:38,270 --> 01:16:40,910 these phenomena. 855 01:16:40,910 --> 01:16:47,910 A lot of your orientations for up or down come from your inner ear, which have gravity 856 01:16:48,050 --> 01:16:49,400 receptors. 857 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,510 Well, those basically don't work very well. 858 01:16:52,510 --> 01:16:59,510 They don't work at all, because the little bone particles inside there are basically 859 01:17:01,580 --> 01:17:02,710 floating around. 860 01:17:02,710 --> 01:17:09,710 You don't get the proper feedback, but you still get visual feedback and you get rotational 861 01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:13,580 feedback from your inner ear. 862 01:17:13,580 --> 01:17:20,580 And so your body has to essentially reprogram the feedback loops so that you can maintain 863 01:17:22,250 --> 01:17:24,260 your sense of orientation. 864 01:17:24,260 --> 01:17:26,540 And that leads to space sickness. 865 01:17:26,540 --> 01:17:33,540 And about roughly two-thirds of people who go up experience some form of space sickness. 866 01:17:33,660 --> 01:17:35,870 It is sort of like seasickness. 867 01:17:35,870 --> 01:17:42,870 Anywhere from mild -- [LOST VIDEO AND AUDIO] [LOST VIDEO AND AUDIO] -- the feeling ofweightlessness. 868 01:19:48,180 --> 01:19:55,180 But launch is really an overwhelming experience with all the vibration and the power and the 869 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,430 acceleration and everything. 870 01:19:58,430 --> 01:20:05,080 And I remember thinking to myself at MECO when I started floating, I thought now I'm 871 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,920 in an environment that I understand. 872 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:13,920 Because I had had so many 135 parabolas that the feeling of being weightless was not as 873 01:20:17,870 --> 01:20:20,710 overwhelmingly new as it otherwise might have been. 874 01:20:20,710 --> 01:20:27,210 Although, what I realized after about a minute, I was sort of holding onto the seat waiting 875 01:20:27,210 --> 01:20:27,950 for the pullout. 876 01:20:27,950 --> 01:20:33,870 That is when I realized, no, wait a minute, no pullout, you're really in orbit. 877 01:20:33,870 --> 01:20:38,180 And that is when I got really excited and sort of floated over to the window. 878 01:20:38,180 --> 01:20:44,450 And I basically couldn't wipe the smile off my face for about seven days. 879 01:20:44,450 --> 01:20:46,120 Yeah? 880 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:53,120 What about the internal clock? 881 01:20:54,460 --> 01:20:57,400 Do you still have 24-hour days? 882 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:57,890 Yeah, basically. 883 01:20:57,890 --> 01:21:03,350 The sun rises and sets every 90 minutes. 884 01:21:03,350 --> 01:21:09,230 What we try to do, this wasn't done in the early Shuttle flights, but often you have 885 01:21:09,230 --> 01:21:15,460 to launch at odd hours, if you're doing a rendezvous particularly. 886 01:21:15,460 --> 01:21:21,960 For instance, when we launched to repair Hubble, the launch was 4:00 AM because that's when 887 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,860 Hubble happened to be flying over. 888 01:21:23,860 --> 01:21:30,860 Now 4:00 AM, typically your body is at about its lowest point in the 24-hour cycle. 889 01:21:31,809 --> 01:21:34,250 You know, your basal metabolism, your temperature. 890 01:21:34,250 --> 01:21:40,900 Not the condition you want to be in when you go through a launch in case there is any problem. 891 01:21:40,900 --> 01:21:43,780 What you want to do is adjust your sleep cycle. 892 01:21:43,780 --> 01:21:50,200 It is very hard to adjust your sleep cycle when you have the sun rising and setting every 893 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:55,550 90 minutes because you don't get any light feedback, but what we do is, starting a week 894 01:21:55,550 --> 01:22:01,000 before a launch, the crew goes into a medical quarantine so that you don't get exposed to 895 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:06,140 any cold germs because you don't want to get sick on-orbit. 896 01:22:06,140 --> 01:22:13,140 And so at that time what they have done is use some medical research over the last 20 897 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:21,400 years or so which indicates that bright lights, at the right time of day, can actually help 898 01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:27,059 your body change to a new time zone. 899 01:22:27,059 --> 01:22:32,030 That's why they say when you fly over to Europe, you fly overnight and you don't usually sleep 900 01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:33,100 too much in the airplane. 901 01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:34,530 You land early in the morning. 902 01:22:34,530 --> 01:22:40,290 And a lot of people then want to go to their hotel and go to sleep for a while, but the 903 01:22:40,290 --> 01:22:43,710 doctors tell you that is the worst thing to do as far as getting used to the new time 904 01:22:43,710 --> 01:22:44,000 zone. 905 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:48,580 What you really want to do is go stay out in the bright sunlight at a time when your 906 01:22:48,580 --> 01:22:54,540 body thinks it should be dark, get the sunlight into your brain. 907 01:22:54,540 --> 01:22:55,400 And that is what we do. 908 01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,230 In the quarantine quarters everything is white. 909 01:22:59,230 --> 01:23:00,870 The tables have white butcher paper. 910 01:23:00,870 --> 01:23:03,020 And the walls and the ceiling are white. 911 01:23:03,020 --> 01:23:08,640 And there is essentially wall-to-wall fluorescent lights on the ceiling. 912 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:09,750 And so it is really bright. 913 01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:13,820 I mean you have to wear sunglasses when you first go in the room. 914 01:23:13,820 --> 01:23:20,820 And it is too bright to watch television or even to use your computer, but it works. 915 01:23:21,550 --> 01:23:28,230 And after about two days you are pretty much accommodated to the new time. 916 01:23:28,230 --> 01:23:35,230 And then, if you want to go out during the day when the sun is out but it is a time when 917 01:23:35,460 --> 01:23:38,790 the sun shouldn't be out for the time you are trying to switch to, you have to wear 918 01:23:38,790 --> 01:23:43,400 really, really dark sunglasses so you don't get deprogrammed. 919 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:50,400 The problem is sometimes when you're on-orbit, because of the procession of orbits, you tend 920 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:58,400 to have to re-enter, on a short shuttle flight -- this is different for the Space Station 921 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:05,400 -- but on a short Shuttle flight you typically reenter a few hours earlier than your equivalent 922 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,050 launch time. 923 01:24:09,050 --> 01:24:14,760 And that means that you have to often do a sleep shift in orbit. 924 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,370 And that is much more difficult, particularly if you try to shift earlier. 925 01:24:18,370 --> 01:24:23,110 It is relatively easy to stay awake for an extra hour. 926 01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:25,410 I mean everybody likes to lie in bed for an extra hour. 927 01:24:25,410 --> 01:24:26,110 That is easy. 928 01:24:26,110 --> 01:24:32,100 But to go to bed an hour or two hours early it is hard to get to sleep. 929 01:24:32,100 --> 01:24:35,520 And then you have to wake up two hours early, that is difficult. 930 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,770 But that typically is what you have to do. 931 01:24:38,770 --> 01:24:45,770 The medical people have actually imposed maximum shifts both per day, per week and per month 932 01:24:47,370 --> 01:24:52,140 for how much the crew can be asked to shift their sleep schedule. 933 01:24:52,140 --> 01:24:59,140 The Russians have another problem when they do space walks because they don't have a full 934 01:24:59,750 --> 01:25:05,140 equivalent of a TDRS system, tracking data relay system, like we do. 935 01:25:05,140 --> 01:25:12,140 They like to be doing their space walks when they're making passes over Russia so that 936 01:25:13,250 --> 01:25:15,290 they can get ground tracking. 937 01:25:15,290 --> 01:25:22,290 And so often when a Russian crew is preparing for a space walk, they have to shift sometimes 938 01:25:22,500 --> 01:25:23,860 by eight hours at a time. 939 01:25:23,860 --> 01:25:28,380 And it can be really tough on a crew to have to do that. 940 01:25:28,380 --> 01:25:29,840 If any of you have worked third shift. 941 01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:36,840 It's not like pulling an all-nighter where the next day you go back onto your normal 942 01:25:39,190 --> 01:25:39,600 shift. 943 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:45,200 To actually stay on a different shift for three or four days at a time can be tough 944 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,400 when you don't have any light cues to accommodate you. 945 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:48,650 Yeah? 946 01:25:48,450 --> 01:25:52,230 Just an observation that all those measures to shift the sleep cycle are obsolete now 947 01:25:52,230 --> 01:25:59,230 with the no night launches, right? 948 01:26:01,890 --> 01:26:08,890 As long as there are no night launches that is probably true. 949 01:26:08,980 --> 01:26:15,130 And what that means, of course, is that they can only launch to the Space Station at certain 950 01:26:15,130 --> 01:26:15,970 times of the year. 951 01:26:15,970 --> 01:26:19,380 That is the price you pay. 952 01:26:19,380 --> 01:26:19,630 Yeah? 953 01:26:19,540 --> 01:26:26,540 On the launch pad, what is supporting the entire weight of the Orbiter? 954 01:26:34,850 --> 01:26:35,730 And, secondly, if you are on the mid-deck, are there any windows? 955 01:26:35,730 --> 01:26:35,980 And, if not, can you see? I should bring in the launch bolts. 956 01:26:37,710 --> 01:26:38,830 I have a couple in my office. 957 01:26:38,830 --> 01:26:43,830 The entire weight of the Shuttle stack is supported on the two solid rocket boosters, 958 01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:49,680 so the bottom skirts of the boosters are actually sitting on the launch pad. 959 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:56,680 And so on each of the boosters there are four big nuts and bolts, four on each booster. 960 01:27:00,230 --> 01:27:03,809 They are explosive nuts. 961 01:27:03,809 --> 01:27:10,809 And at the moment that the solid rocket boosters ignite, all eight of those nuts are split 962 01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:16,540 in half so that the boosters can lift off. 963 01:27:16,540 --> 01:27:20,230 Now, I asked the question what would happen if one of them didn't go. 964 01:27:20,230 --> 01:27:25,230 And the answer was, well, we think that the booster is strong enough that it would just 965 01:27:25,230 --> 01:27:28,860 rip it out, but nobody wants to find out. 966 01:27:28,860 --> 01:27:34,790 Obviously, these are redundant explosive bolts or nuts. 967 01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:41,090 They did have, on one flight, they found that one or two of the redundant firing units did 968 01:27:41,090 --> 01:27:42,300 not fire. 969 01:27:42,300 --> 01:27:44,400 And that got people's attention. 970 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,960 And I don't know what the final resolution was. 971 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:53,960 But basically those bolts, you know, if there is wind blowing and the Shuttle is rocking 972 01:27:54,210 --> 01:27:59,190 back and forth, all of that load is taken through those bolts. 973 01:27:59,190 --> 01:28:04,670 The structure of the solid boosters has to be able to accommodate that. 974 01:28:04,670 --> 01:28:07,690 You asked me another question as well. 975 01:28:07,690 --> 01:28:12,000 Oh, the mid-deck. 976 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:16,330 The hatch, where the crew gets in, has a window in it. 977 01:28:16,330 --> 01:28:23,200 Before Challenger, one seat in the mid-deck was right next to the hatch. 978 01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:30,200 My first flight, I actually sat next to the hatch during ascent downstairs but had a great 979 01:28:30,330 --> 01:28:32,870 view out the window. 980 01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:39,870 Now, after Challenger, we have an ejection pole, a telescoping pole which is suspended 981 01:28:45,930 --> 01:28:46,490 from the ceiling. 982 01:28:46,490 --> 01:28:50,630 I think we talked about this before. 983 01:28:50,630 --> 01:28:57,630 If the Shuttle is in a situation where it is in stable flight but you cannot make it 984 01:28:57,820 --> 01:29:02,730 to a runway, at about 40,000 feet you blow the hatch. 985 01:29:02,730 --> 01:29:09,730 The telescoping pole, you release the pin, the pole will extend, and then one by one 986 01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,460 you clip onto the pole and you jump out. 987 01:29:14,460 --> 01:29:21,050 And the pole takes you below the wing so that you won't hit the Shuttle structure. 988 01:29:21,050 --> 01:29:25,690 And then eventually your parachute will open. 989 01:29:25,690 --> 01:29:32,610 That now takes up the area over by the window and the three seats no longer have a view. 990 01:29:32,610 --> 01:29:39,610 If you're sitting on the mid-deck how during a launch, how do you know what is going on...? 991 01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:43,150 [UNINTELLIGIBLE] You hear the comm. 992 01:29:43,150 --> 01:29:43,640 loop. 993 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,980 And if you have a nice commander he will tell you. 994 01:29:47,980 --> 01:29:52,730 For instance, if you have a rookie astronaut onboard, they want to know when they go through 995 01:29:52,730 --> 01:29:58,590 100 kilometers because that means you have officially been in space and you can get your 996 01:29:58,590 --> 01:29:59,440 astronaut wings. 997 01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:04,250 So, if the commander is nice, he will call 100 clicks on the way up and congratulate 998 01:30:04,250 --> 01:30:05,840 the new rookies. 999 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,050 But basically that is about it. 1000 01:30:08,050 --> 01:30:12,020 And the same for entry, you don't have a view. 1001 01:30:12,020 --> 01:30:17,660 There are still plenty of physiological things to keep your attention, so it is not like 1002 01:30:17,660 --> 01:30:23,140 it is a boring ride, but you don't have the view. 1003 01:30:23,140 --> 01:30:23,809 OK. 1004 01:30:23,809 --> 01:30:30,809 Let me run the entry picture here. 1005 01:30:36,020 --> 01:30:36,270 OK. 1006 01:30:36,250 --> 01:30:43,250 OMS engine ignition is when you see that big flame pattern. 1007 01:30:44,460 --> 01:30:49,920 During the burn you don't see anything. 1008 01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:55,500 Now, looking out the front, you see the plasma sheath. 1009 01:30:55,500 --> 01:31:02,500 It goes from a dull red gradually to orange and then eventually white hot. 1010 01:31:04,620 --> 01:31:07,940 You can only see this at night. 1011 01:31:07,940 --> 01:31:14,940 It is fairly faint, but typically a lot of flights you land during the early part of 1012 01:31:15,570 --> 01:31:16,750 the day on the ground. 1013 01:31:16,750 --> 01:31:23,670 And, of course, you do your burn halfway around the world so the early part of your entry 1014 01:31:23,670 --> 01:31:29,940 is very often at night and then you fly into the day. 1015 01:31:29,940 --> 01:31:36,940 And then I think there is another shot looking out the aft window where you actually see 1016 01:31:37,450 --> 01:31:39,960 the plasma wake in the back of the Shuttle. 1017 01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:46,960 And you can see this is the old-fashioned computer screen. 1018 01:31:53,220 --> 01:31:57,570 That is the wake looking out the overhead window. 1019 01:31:57,570 --> 01:32:02,930 And, where these converge, that little point there they say is about 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit, 1020 01:32:02,930 --> 01:32:04,640 which is the surface temperature of the sun. 1021 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:10,900 It is remarkably stable, although every once in a while you get those instabilities. 1022 01:32:10,900 --> 01:32:16,380 And every once in a while you get big bright things go flying past, which I assume are 1023 01:32:16,380 --> 01:32:17,760 gap fillers coming out. 1024 01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:24,760 And I remember I would always think to myself I hope that is nothing important. 1025 01:32:24,910 --> 01:32:30,730 You're basically riding on a meteorite because it is supposed to make it all the way down 1026 01:32:30,730 --> 01:32:32,220 to the earth. 1027 01:32:32,220 --> 01:32:38,130 But that is essentially what you are seeing, that trail behind you. 1028 01:32:38,130 --> 01:32:40,420 And I am sure you have all seen these landings. 1029 01:32:40,420 --> 01:32:44,110 Remember all the talk about the landing gear and the brakes. 1030 01:32:44,110 --> 01:32:48,770 I looked for a video from my first flight to show you the blowout. 1031 01:32:48,770 --> 01:32:55,770 I couldn't find one, but if I find one I will bring it in and show you another time. 1032 01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,490 This is a landing out at Edwards. 1033 01:33:06,490 --> 01:33:10,670 Have you ever landed at night? 1034 01:33:10,670 --> 01:33:13,010 I have landed at night. 1035 01:33:13,010 --> 01:33:14,930 I was going to show you one other. 1036 01:33:14,930 --> 01:33:18,150 It doesn't have a landing light, does it? 1037 01:33:18,150 --> 01:33:18,400 No. 1038 01:33:18,309 --> 01:33:19,790 Do they light up the runway? 1039 01:33:19,790 --> 01:33:20,520 Yeah. 1040 01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:27,520 They have two banks of xenon lights which light up the runway for you. 1041 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:43,840 Actually, this next video is from my last flight where we deployed the tethered satellite. 1042 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,840 I am not going to show you all that stuff, but I wanted to show you the launch sequence 1043 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:52,250 because we have a few pictures showing the opening of the payload bay doors. 1044 01:33:52,250 --> 01:33:58,410 And then you can actually see back to the aft end of the Shuttle where you have the 1045 01:33:58,410 --> 01:33:59,420 main engine. 1046 01:33:59,420 --> 01:34:06,420 And remember I talked about how the hydrogen and oxygen have now combined into water and 1047 01:34:06,770 --> 01:34:07,920 that forms ice. 1048 01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:14,309 And so for the first day or so on-orbit there are just constant ice particles coming out 1049 01:34:14,309 --> 01:34:19,500 of the engines, and you are surrounded by this cloud of ice. 1050 01:34:19,500 --> 01:34:23,930 Unfortunately the pictures are black and white because it is low-light level TV, but visually 1051 01:34:23,930 --> 01:34:30,639 it is spectacular because these little ice particles glint in the sunlight. 1052 01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:37,639 And they are rotating so they go through all the different colors of the spectrum and you 1053 01:34:37,670 --> 01:34:38,790 are surrounded by this. 1054 01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:45,790 You will also see one of the RCS jets firing. 1055 01:34:54,700 --> 01:34:56,260 Water deluge. 1056 01:34:56,260 --> 01:34:59,410 Main engine sequence. 1057 01:34:59,410 --> 01:35:00,850 Again, you see the whole tilt. 1058 01:35:00,850 --> 01:35:07,690 When it gets back to vertical we take off. 1059 01:35:07,690 --> 01:35:13,550 This is a much shorter sequence here for the launch than the last one. 1060 01:35:13,550 --> 01:35:20,550 How does it roll? 1061 01:35:23,940 --> 01:35:27,150 The SRB boosters go like that. 1062 01:35:27,150 --> 01:35:32,340 Is it the entire stack or just the lower...? 1063 01:35:32,340 --> 01:35:39,340 No, it is just the nozzle at the bottom. 1064 01:35:40,450 --> 01:35:42,500 This was Columbia. 1065 01:35:42,500 --> 01:35:46,860 You can always tell Columbia because, if you look at the vertical stabilizer up here, that 1066 01:35:46,860 --> 01:35:49,110 is an infrared pod. 1067 01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:51,250 I will talk about that in a minute. 1068 01:35:51,250 --> 01:35:56,670 The payload bay doors open right away. 1069 01:35:56,670 --> 01:36:03,300 And so now you can see, when we've done the engine vent, you can see all the ice particles 1070 01:36:03,300 --> 01:36:03,990 coming out. 1071 01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:10,550 And you will see a primary RCS thruster go in there. 1072 01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:14,520 It can be pretty spectacular. 1073 01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:19,270 And that just keeps going for about a day and then you've gotten rid of most of the 1074 01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:19,820 ice particles. 1075 01:36:19,820 --> 01:36:21,020 OK. 1076 01:36:21,020 --> 01:36:26,930 That is enough of that. 1077 01:36:26,930 --> 01:36:29,250 Yeah? 1078 01:36:29,250 --> 01:36:36,250 [AUDIENCE QUESTION] That was a primary RCS thruster. 1079 01:36:41,710 --> 01:36:47,500 [AUDIENCE QUESTION] Yeah, absolutely. 1080 01:36:47,500 --> 01:36:54,500 In fact, all of the vernier thrusters are downward thrusting only. 1081 01:36:55,440 --> 01:37:02,440 Remember we talked about with the primary thrusters, they were designed and sized for 1082 01:37:02,510 --> 01:37:07,460 rendezvous where you actually have to have controlled propulsion. 1083 01:37:07,460 --> 01:37:14,460 And if you want a Z propulsion of the Shuttle, you want to be able to get a pure Z so you 1084 01:37:16,670 --> 01:37:20,150 fire thrusters on each end. 1085 01:37:20,150 --> 01:37:23,210 And the same for roll and yaw. 1086 01:37:23,210 --> 01:37:30,210 And you don't want a lot of cross-coupling because you're targeting your burn to fractions 1087 01:37:31,670 --> 01:37:36,000 of a foot per second in order to get your rendezvous to come out right. 1088 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:41,610 And so that is when you're using the primary thrusters. 1089 01:37:41,610 --> 01:37:45,690 Other than that, the primaries use a lot of propellant. 1090 01:37:45,690 --> 01:37:49,630 And so we disable the primaries and use the verniers. 1091 01:37:49,630 --> 01:37:56,230 With the verniers there are two verniers in the nose which are sort of canted down at 1092 01:37:56,230 --> 01:37:58,550 about 45 degrees. 1093 01:37:58,550 --> 01:38:03,590 And, in the rear, there are two pointing straight down and two pointing straight out. 1094 01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:10,590 Typically, for a given maneuver, you will fire only one or two. 1095 01:38:10,770 --> 01:38:17,770 If you want to do a roll, for instance, you will fire the 45-degree down forward thruster 1096 01:38:17,940 --> 01:38:24,940 and the downward pointing aft thruster. 1097 01:38:25,180 --> 01:38:28,770 But they are not completely balanced so you will get a little bit of pitch and a little 1098 01:38:28,770 --> 01:38:30,020 bit of yaw. 1099 01:38:30,020 --> 01:38:34,400 And you don't use the verniers for propulsion at all. 1100 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:41,400 Although, because all of the verniers are essentially downward firing, if you are, for 1101 01:38:41,480 --> 01:38:47,380 instance, station keeping, if here is the Space Station and you're in the same orbit 1102 01:38:47,380 --> 01:38:53,860 but, say, half a mile in front of it, now you're station keeping using your vernier 1103 01:38:53,860 --> 01:39:00,860 thrusters, typically that does give you, after a while, a little bit of propulsive maneuver 1104 01:39:01,250 --> 01:39:02,250 which pushes you in. 1105 01:39:02,250 --> 01:39:05,050 So, you have to compensate for that. 1106 01:39:05,050 --> 01:39:07,420 The verniers are single string. 1107 01:39:07,420 --> 01:39:09,210 There is no redundancy. 1108 01:39:09,210 --> 01:39:13,250 They do have access-to-access cross-coupling. 1109 01:39:13,250 --> 01:39:20,250 They are designed for attitude control only; 25 pound thrusters are reasonably efficient. 1110 01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:33,840 I thought at the end we could explore a little bit together some of the ideas of improvements 1111 01:39:39,370 --> 01:39:41,820 to the Shuttle which you are going to be thinking about. 1112 01:39:41,820 --> 01:39:47,620 And one of the things that I thought would be interesting to think about, you know we 1113 01:39:47,620 --> 01:39:54,620 talked about the fact that if you're designing the Shuttle to the same set of requirements 1114 01:39:56,840 --> 01:40:03,840 that were originally put on it, your ability to change some of the major physical characteristics 1115 01:40:06,570 --> 01:40:09,450 of the Shuttle are very limited. 1116 01:40:09,450 --> 01:40:16,450 We can do a lot with electronics and some of the other systems. 1117 01:40:21,130 --> 01:40:28,130 The new vehicle, the crew exploration vehicle, is being designed not just to go to earth 1118 01:40:29,010 --> 01:40:36,010 orbit but they want a vehicle that can actually return to the earth from the moon or from 1119 01:40:36,130 --> 01:40:36,770 mars. 1120 01:40:36,770 --> 01:40:43,770 That means instead of an orbital velocity of five miles per second you have a reentry 1121 01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:55,880 velocity, a hyperbolic velocity, of about eight miles per second. 1122 01:40:58,490 --> 01:41:04,900 Does anybody remember the relationship between low orbital velocity and escape velocity? 1123 01:41:04,900 --> 01:41:11,630 If your lower velocity is V, what is your escape velocity? 1124 01:41:11,630 --> 01:41:12,690 Square root of 2V. 1125 01:41:12,690 --> 01:41:14,670 That is a nice thing to remember. 1126 01:41:14,670 --> 01:41:21,670 It is an easy way to keep those things straight. 1127 01:41:23,290 --> 01:41:24,880 First of all, you don't need wings to go to the moon. 1128 01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,360 They don't do you much good when you get there. 1129 01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:33,360 To have a winged vehicle that you can thermally protect against a hyperbolic reentry velocity 1130 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:35,860 just doesn't make sense. 1131 01:41:35,860 --> 01:41:38,840 It would be too heavy. 1132 01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:40,550 We don't think we can do that. 1133 01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:47,440 And, in fact, the Russians are now talking about building this new clipper vehicle which 1134 01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:50,980 possibly will have wings on it or be a lifting body. 1135 01:41:50,980 --> 01:41:57,980 And that actually probably means that they will only use it for low earth orbit. 1136 01:41:58,820 --> 01:42:05,820 But it does bring up the interesting question, if you are designing a vehicle that is only 1137 01:42:08,530 --> 01:42:15,190 designed to go to earth orbit as a passenger carrying vehicle, one of the first things 1138 01:42:15,190 --> 01:42:22,190 that we ought to ask ourselves, if we're doing a new design, is should we have wings? 1139 01:42:22,590 --> 01:42:28,800 Think a little bit about the advantages and disadvantages of wings. 1140 01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:33,900 If you're sitting down now with a blank drawing board going through a design process, first 1141 01:42:33,900 --> 01:42:37,820 of all, what are the advantages of wings? 1142 01:42:37,820 --> 01:42:44,570 You've heard quite a bit about Shuttle aerodynamics. 1143 01:42:44,570 --> 01:42:48,900 What advantages do you get from using wings during a reentry? 1144 01:42:48,900 --> 01:42:53,110 And, obviously, it's only during entry that the wings are going to help you because they 1145 01:42:53,110 --> 01:42:55,050 are a real nuisance during ascent. 1146 01:42:55,050 --> 01:43:01,590 Greater cross-range? 1147 01:43:01,590 --> 01:43:03,360 Cross-range helps with the wings. 1148 01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:09,480 The glide? 1149 01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:14,190 Yeah, it allows you to land on a runway. 1150 01:43:14,190 --> 01:43:20,300 In terms of having to design against the shock, you know, the Crew Exploration Vehicle is 1151 01:43:20,300 --> 01:43:21,820 going to land with parachutes. 1152 01:43:21,820 --> 01:43:27,570 And they still don't know are they going to use airbags or retrorockets or crushable structure 1153 01:43:27,570 --> 01:43:28,050 or whatever. 1154 01:43:28,050 --> 01:43:28,420 They don't know. 1155 01:43:28,420 --> 01:43:35,420 But it is going to take a much harder hit. 1156 01:43:35,590 --> 01:43:40,700 That may potentially affect reusability, maintainability. 1157 01:43:40,700 --> 01:43:41,360 Yeah? 1158 01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:48,360 I was going to say just purely control while coming back in ... 1159 01:43:48,590 --> 01:43:54,920 [UNINTELLIGIBLE PHRASE]. 1160 01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:56,600 Well, we had the cross-range. 1161 01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,710 But targeting I guess, too? 1162 01:43:58,710 --> 01:43:59,170 Targeting. 1163 01:43:59,170 --> 01:44:03,660 If you were to land, say, in a certain part of the desert in New Mexico, you would want 1164 01:44:03,660 --> 01:44:07,230 to have a lot more accuracy? 1165 01:44:07,230 --> 01:44:08,170 Right. 1166 01:44:08,170 --> 01:44:12,920 For the CEV, they are just basically saying they are going to land out in the Western 1167 01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:13,360 desert somewhere. 1168 01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,940 Now, the Apollo shots were getting pretty accurate. 1169 01:44:16,940 --> 01:44:23,940 The last couple of Apollos landed within visual range of the aircraft carrier that went to 1170 01:44:25,300 --> 01:44:26,800 pick them up, so they were getting pretty good. 1171 01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:33,040 But that's within a couple of miles, which is fine when you're landing in the ocean. 1172 01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,150 And maybe it's OK if you're landing in the Western desert. 1173 01:44:36,150 --> 01:44:38,230 It is certainly not OK if you're going to land on a runway. 1174 01:44:38,230 --> 01:44:43,120 Hardly an engineering consideration, but how much thought in the design was put into making 1175 01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:49,330 it a winged vehicle for it to be a comfortable and familiar look to people, especially if 1176 01:44:49,330 --> 01:44:52,900 the idea was to have nonprofessional astronauts fly? 1177 01:44:52,900 --> 01:44:58,690 It seems more comfortable to get in something that looks like an airplane? 1178 01:44:58,690 --> 01:45:03,330 I don't know about comfort from that point of view, but there is no question that the 1179 01:45:03,330 --> 01:45:08,480 whole aviation metaphor dominated discussion in the early days. 1180 01:45:08,480 --> 01:45:10,520 And I think you have gotten a sense of this. 1181 01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:15,730 The idea was we want a reusable vehicle. 1182 01:45:15,730 --> 01:45:19,750 That means we have to have airline-type operations. 1183 01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:24,800 Well, if you're going to have airline-type operations then you want a vehicle that lands 1184 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:25,380 on the runway. 1185 01:45:25,380 --> 01:45:26,520 You take it into the hangar. 1186 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:27,400 You turn it around. 1187 01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,600 You launch it again. 1188 01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:33,100 I mean it's a very powerful metaphor. 1189 01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:37,750 What are some of the disadvantages of wings? 1190 01:45:37,750 --> 01:45:41,670 What are some of the things that argue against wings? 1191 01:45:41,670 --> 01:45:46,520 Again, we're going right back to the conceptual design exercise here. 1192 01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:52,600 And this is not what you're doing for your papers because we're totally changing the 1193 01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:53,620 concept of the Shuttle. 1194 01:45:53,620 --> 01:45:58,320 But, for the purpose of the class, let's think it through. 1195 01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,150 What are the disadvantages of wings? 1196 01:46:00,150 --> 01:46:05,510 I think a lot of what we talked about is initial design cost versus, you know, and no wings 1197 01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:09,170 obviously has a lot less initial design cost because you don't have to design the structure 1198 01:46:09,170 --> 01:46:12,240 to support the wings and it is a lot simpler design, I think. 1199 01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:19,240 So, that probably saves you money in your initial development. 1200 01:46:22,889 --> 01:46:29,889 [AUDIENCE COMMENT] Now, on the other hand, I don't know how much any of you have studied 1201 01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:37,120 the theory of reentry bodies, but the reentry of a ballistic capsule typically gives you 1202 01:46:42,690 --> 01:46:48,570 much higher Gs than you can get if you have a lifting body. 1203 01:46:48,570 --> 01:46:54,030 And, of course, with wings you get much more lift. 1204 01:46:54,030 --> 01:47:01,030 You can actually decrease the G loading so that with the Shuttle we can have a reentry 1205 01:47:03,370 --> 01:47:06,190 pulling no more than about 1.5 Gs. 1206 01:47:06,190 --> 01:47:13,190 Whereas, you come back in a capsule even from low earth orbit and you're going to be pulling 1207 01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:18,230 4, 5, 6 Gs. 1208 01:47:18,230 --> 01:47:23,639 And that does relate back to the idea that we wanted the Shuttle to be able to take much 1209 01:47:23,639 --> 01:47:30,639 more delicate payloads and hopefully take people who were not necessarily trained astronauts. 1210 01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:37,320 So, again, it's an advantage but a disadvantage of wings. 1211 01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:44,320 The area under the wings is huge, so that puts huge demands on your thermal protection 1212 01:47:45,860 --> 01:47:51,570 system. 1213 01:47:51,570 --> 01:47:56,980 I don't know what they're going to end up using on the CEV, but it is going to be a 1214 01:47:56,980 --> 01:48:02,880 much smaller area that has to be protected. 1215 01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,550 Another interesting thing, when you think about a winged vehicle like the Shuttle, now 1216 01:48:06,550 --> 01:48:13,180 I know that Buran, the Russian Shuttle, made its one flight unmanned. 1217 01:48:13,180 --> 01:48:20,180 They had some tense moments at the end, but they did manage to land it successfully. 1218 01:48:20,300 --> 01:48:27,300 But the way we fly our Shuttle, we have to have two trained pilots who spend a tremendous 1219 01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:36,100 amount of time doing nothing but learning how to land the Shuttle. 1220 01:48:36,820 --> 01:48:43,820 Sometimes we don't think about the crew requirements on the design, but training is not an insignificant 1221 01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:47,880 part of the cost of operating the Shuttle. 1222 01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:54,880 There is a huge enterprise involved in training astronauts. 1223 01:48:55,820 --> 01:48:59,270 And training pilots particularly is very expensive. 1224 01:48:59,270 --> 01:49:05,559 You have to keep them qualified as pilots so NASA maintains a fleet of T38 supersonic 1225 01:49:05,559 --> 01:49:06,780 jets, which are great fun. 1226 01:49:06,780 --> 01:49:09,210 I mean I love to fly backseat in them. 1227 01:49:09,210 --> 01:49:14,880 But the only justification for having them is if somebody is going to be a pilot they 1228 01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,860 have got to stay current as a pilot which means you have got to fly. 1229 01:49:17,860 --> 01:49:21,790 And we have the Shuttle Training Aircraft which I have spoken to you about. 1230 01:49:21,790 --> 01:49:27,190 And we have all the simulator time. 1231 01:49:27,190 --> 01:49:32,520 And then we have the problem that people said -- there was a time when they were talking 1232 01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:38,940 about having the Shuttle spend extended periods of time up at the Space Station, you know, 1233 01:49:38,940 --> 01:49:43,600 a month, maybe two months, make some adjustments to the Shuttle System so you can do that. 1234 01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:50,600 Then the problem is, well, who is going to land the Shuttle, because I talked to you 1235 01:49:50,940 --> 01:49:55,190 about the spatial disorientation and everything that you feel during reentry. 1236 01:49:55,190 --> 01:49:58,360 Well, you don't want a pilot to do that. 1237 01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:03,410 And, if a pilot has been up in the Space Station for one or two months, has not had any stick 1238 01:50:03,410 --> 01:50:10,410 time, is going to have potentially serious neurovestibular problems during entry. 1239 01:50:10,670 --> 01:50:17,670 And so the real question was what's the maximum time that it is OK for a pilot to spend in 1240 01:50:19,580 --> 01:50:19,830 space? We will never actually have to answer that because 17 or 18 days was the maximum Shuttle 1241 01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:25,400 Mission. 1242 01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:28,380 That turned out to be OK. 1243 01:50:28,380 --> 01:50:31,780 And we are never going to do long duration missions with the Shuttle and the Space Station. 1244 01:50:31,780 --> 01:50:32,030 Yeah? 1245 01:50:31,930 --> 01:50:38,930 [AUDIENCE QUESTION] No. 1246 01:50:42,130 --> 01:50:47,840 They learn a lot of the malfunction procedures, but you don't actually fly the ballistic capsule. 1247 01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:54,320 I mean I am not in any sense denigrating the training that the Apollo astronauts needed 1248 01:50:54,320 --> 01:51:00,980 to land their capsule, but it did not compare in the least to the amount of training, for 1249 01:51:00,980 --> 01:51:04,500 instance, to land on the moon where you were actually piloting the vehicle. 1250 01:51:04,500 --> 01:51:06,700 OK. 1251 01:51:06,700 --> 01:51:13,700 Well, I hope just that very brief exploration will make you think about designing new vehicles 1252 01:51:21,820 --> 01:51:24,139 from a slightly different point of view. 1253 01:51:24,139 --> 01:51:31,139 In other words, when we designed the Shuttle, it was just assumed as gospel essentially 1254 01:51:31,630 --> 01:51:37,350 that if you want a reusable vehicle put wings on it. 1255 01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:39,000 I don't know what the right answer is. 1256 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:44,440 It probably depends on some of the details of the mission, but you really have to go 1257 01:51:44,440 --> 01:51:47,690 back and question your most basic assumptions. 1258 01:51:47,690 --> 01:51:53,170 When you're doing your concepts and you're setting out your requirements, you don't want 1259 01:51:53,170 --> 01:51:58,250 to write your requirements in such a way that they presuppose the technical solution. 1260 01:51:58,250 --> 01:52:05,250 If you write your requirements for a winged vehicle you have already shut down a whole 1261 01:52:05,650 --> 01:52:07,000 part of designed space. 1262 01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,330 And, as designers, you don't want to do that. 1263 01:52:09,330 --> 01:52:09,580 Yeah? 1264 01:52:09,420 --> 01:52:10,070 Last question. 1265 01:52:10,070 --> 01:52:15,710 [AUDIENCE QUESTION] No. 1266 01:52:15,710 --> 01:52:20,980 The Russians have actually taken, my understanding is, they have taken some of the electronics 1267 01:52:20,980 --> 01:52:25,090 out of capsules and reused internal parts. 1268 01:52:25,090 --> 01:52:31,480 But the exterior shell of the capsules I don't believe have ever been reused. 1269 01:52:31,480 --> 01:52:31,980 OK. 1270 01:52:31,980 --> 01:52:32,730 We will see you Thursday. 1271 01:52:32,730 --> 01:52:36,630 Bob Ried is going to give a talk on aerothermodynamics. 1272 01:52:36,630 --> 01:52:39,190 And I will look forward to seeing your journals. 1273 01:52:39,190 --> 01:52:46,190 Any questions on the reports, the outlines that I returned, email me, come to see me. 1274 01:52:47,540 --> 01:52:48,900 I am happy to talk with you about it.