1 00:00:04,790 --> 00:00:06,290 JOSHUA GUNN: One thing I thought was 2 00:00:06,290 --> 00:00:10,120 effective was the way that Chris, I think, 3 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:13,080 on the first day I attended and 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,210 watched, you kind of laid out a sort 5 00:00:15,210 --> 00:00:18,910 of more theoretical framework you know about storytelling 6 00:00:18,910 --> 00:00:20,610 and that sort of thing. 7 00:00:20,610 --> 00:00:24,710 And I think that was nice because, for me, I 8 00:00:24,710 --> 00:00:25,760 think it's effective. 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,034 I'm just one kind of learner, but sort of 10 00:00:28,034 --> 00:00:32,479 have a sort of theory laid out first, and then practice later. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,060 I got the big idea of the why and then 12 00:00:36,060 --> 00:00:40,400 it felt to me like the course dove into some of the details 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,940 of how. 14 00:00:41,940 --> 00:00:44,420 So it was was like a theory practice kind of structure, 15 00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:48,530 which would have been quite useful to me 16 00:00:48,530 --> 00:00:50,279 had I taken the whole course. 17 00:00:50,279 --> 00:00:52,320 CHRIS BOEBEL: One of the big challenges, I think, 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:58,090 with any kind of media course or film, video, is it 19 00:00:58,090 --> 00:01:01,980 that the technical stuff is so overwhelming, potentially, 20 00:01:01,980 --> 00:01:03,876 for people who are new. 21 00:01:03,876 --> 00:01:05,250 There's such a big learning curve 22 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:08,720 that you can get lost in those details really fast. 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,230 And you go, oh my God, I'll never learn Final Cut 24 00:01:13,230 --> 00:01:15,230 and why does everything I shoot suck? 25 00:01:15,230 --> 00:01:17,830 Oh, this is terrible, I'm a failure. 26 00:01:17,830 --> 00:01:19,890 And if you kind of go, well, those aren't really 27 00:01:19,890 --> 00:01:23,350 the learning objectives, which you very clearly articulated, 28 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:25,230 then it's kind of a bigger un-clench. 29 00:01:25,230 --> 00:01:27,700 It's like, OK, what I'm really learning here is to be 30 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:31,200 a communicator, be a storyteller, carry myself, 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,180 understand this medium, and maybe someday I'll be 32 00:01:35,180 --> 00:01:36,930 a terrific editor, or maybe I won't. 33 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:37,825 But either waw-- 34 00:01:37,825 --> 00:01:39,285 JOSHUA GUNN: Maybe you'll plug into the processes 35 00:01:39,285 --> 00:01:39,910 in some other way. 36 00:01:39,910 --> 00:01:40,670 CHRIS BOEBEL: In some other way. 37 00:01:40,670 --> 00:01:41,810 Exactly, yeah. 38 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:43,995 But you have to understand the whole process. 39 00:01:43,995 --> 00:01:45,620 ELIZABETH CHOE: I remember when I first 40 00:01:45,620 --> 00:01:47,480 proposed like-- because you were like, what 41 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,500 do you want me to do? 42 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:51,660 Because I was just like, can you be involved in this somehow? 43 00:01:51,660 --> 00:01:53,410 And it was sort of like, well, maybe 44 00:01:53,410 --> 00:01:55,050 you could cover the actual basics 45 00:01:55,050 --> 00:01:56,500 of shooting and everything. 46 00:01:56,500 --> 00:02:00,990 You said something like, they seem like a technical things. 47 00:02:00,990 --> 00:02:03,160 And I was like, oh shoot, this is terrible. 48 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,820 I'm doing the thing that I tell people not to do. 49 00:02:06,820 --> 00:02:08,479 So we made a very conscious decision 50 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:10,669 to take all this technical elements. 51 00:02:10,669 --> 00:02:15,790 We did not teach how to edit on Final Cut or anything. 52 00:02:15,790 --> 00:02:20,090 Instead, MIT has free Window licensing. 53 00:02:20,090 --> 00:02:24,100 And honestly, their videos teach it better than I do. 54 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:27,320 I don't know Final Cut well enough to teach it. 55 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,240 And not all the students used it, 56 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,620 so we said, for all the technical learning stuff, 57 00:02:33,620 --> 00:02:37,321 it was all on digital blended learning. 58 00:02:37,321 --> 00:02:37,945 Flip Classroom. 59 00:02:40,510 --> 00:02:41,620 Thank you. 60 00:02:41,620 --> 00:02:46,260 And class time was really about teaching big picture stuff, 61 00:02:46,260 --> 00:02:50,910 and then work shopping specific examples, and specific things 62 00:02:50,910 --> 00:02:52,479 they came up with. 63 00:02:52,479 --> 00:02:54,020 CHRIS BOEBEL: Because time is limited 64 00:02:54,020 --> 00:02:58,330 and it's so daunting to become a director, 65 00:02:58,330 --> 00:03:02,260 on camera host, writer, editor, camera person, all 66 00:03:02,260 --> 00:03:02,940 in a few weeks. 67 00:03:02,940 --> 00:03:03,980 And it's just not going to happen. 68 00:03:03,980 --> 00:03:05,355 JOSHUA GUNN: Just the expectation 69 00:03:05,355 --> 00:03:07,440 that they come out with the notion of storytelling 70 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,884 would be sufficient. 71 00:03:08,884 --> 00:03:10,300 ELIZABETH CHOE: It really ended up 72 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:12,010 being a class on pre-production. 73 00:03:12,010 --> 00:03:16,520 It was like two weeks of intense scripting and planning 74 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,520 and the rest just sort of happened 75 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,530 in the last couple days. 76 00:03:20,530 --> 00:03:23,030 The just had to figure out how to film. 77 00:03:23,030 --> 00:03:25,630 JOSHUA GUNN: That's great, I mean the technical execution 78 00:03:25,630 --> 00:03:32,230 gets pushed to the margin, and the more creative stuff 79 00:03:32,230 --> 00:03:33,650 takes precedence. 80 00:03:33,650 --> 00:03:36,740 ELIZABETH CHOE: I mean it's a different class. 81 00:03:36,740 --> 00:03:38,347 There were a couple people who dropped 82 00:03:38,347 --> 00:03:40,680 because they came in thinking, like, this is going to be 83 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,740 a class on how to make a video. 84 00:03:42,740 --> 00:03:46,650 And it's not exactly about that. 85 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:48,380 Because there are other classes like that 86 00:03:48,380 --> 00:03:50,046 that already exist on campus, so there's 87 00:03:50,046 --> 00:03:52,324 no reason for us to redo that. 88 00:03:52,324 --> 00:03:53,740 GEORGE ZAIDAN: And you learn stuff 89 00:03:53,740 --> 00:03:56,740 by like shooting your own stuff and screwing up. 90 00:03:56,740 --> 00:03:58,210 ELIZABETH CHOE: Yeah. 91 00:03:58,210 --> 00:03:58,700 JOSHUA GUNN: Yeah, exactly. 92 00:03:58,700 --> 00:03:59,580 ELIZABETH CHOE: But if someone's going 93 00:03:59,580 --> 00:04:02,250 to watch this class on OpenCourseWare, for instance, 94 00:04:02,250 --> 00:04:05,800 they're not necessarily going to pick up the practical skills 95 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,470 that they might be expecting to. 96 00:04:08,470 --> 00:04:12,420 GEORGE ZAIDAN: We don't teach you how to light, sorry. 97 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:14,120 ELIZABETH CHOE: But like a teacher 98 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,170 who might be watching this might be like, how do I 99 00:04:17,170 --> 00:04:19,820 teach a video production class? 100 00:04:19,820 --> 00:04:24,240 And I'm not sure this is necessarily exactly that. 101 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,860 Sorry. 102 00:04:26,860 --> 00:04:29,270 CHRIS BOEBEL: Oops. 103 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:31,390 But it is hopefully maybe a conceptual framework 104 00:04:31,390 --> 00:04:36,247 that you could then plug-in production modules into. 105 00:04:36,247 --> 00:04:37,580 JOSHUA GUNN: Or a larger course. 106 00:04:37,580 --> 00:04:38,630 ELIZABETH CHOE: Yeah, it was so short. 107 00:04:38,630 --> 00:04:39,870 It felt like a sprint. 108 00:04:39,870 --> 00:04:41,286 JOSHUA GUNN: Yeah what can you do? 109 00:04:41,286 --> 00:04:43,250 What can you accomplish in that time? 110 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:45,780 I was impressed by how ambitious it was. 111 00:04:45,780 --> 00:04:47,990 CHRIS BOEBEL: It was very ambitious, I thought.