1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,727 The following content is provided by MIT OpenCourseWare 2 00:00:03,727 --> 00:00:06,271 under a Creative Commons license. 3 00:00:06,271 --> 00:00:09,833 Additional information about our license and MIT 4 00:00:09,833 --> 00:00:12,377 OpenCourseWare in general is available at ocw.mit.edu. 5 00:00:15,430 --> 00:00:23,090 PROFESSOR: This is the lecture on sleep and dreams, and you 6 00:00:23,090 --> 00:00:27,870 want to know about this because it's -- well, at MIT, 7 00:00:27,870 --> 00:00:31,140 sleep and dreams is a topic that falls under the heading 8 00:00:31,140 --> 00:00:35,030 of abnormal psychology. 9 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:40,120 All right, let us ask to begin, how many people here 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,210 got some sleep last night? 11 00:00:44,210 --> 00:00:45,240 OK. 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:51,020 Of those people, how many people went to sleep, even 13 00:00:51,020 --> 00:00:54,110 though they knew they still had stuff they 14 00:00:54,110 --> 00:00:57,140 wanted to get done? 15 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:57,820 All right. 16 00:00:57,820 --> 00:01:01,100 So, what's your problem? 17 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:05,380 Well, the typical MIT answer to that is 18 00:01:05,380 --> 00:01:07,710 sort of a moral argument. 19 00:01:07,710 --> 00:01:09,270 I'm weak. 20 00:01:09,270 --> 00:01:13,420 I'm a miserable human being. 21 00:01:13,420 --> 00:01:18,100 If I was a good, strong human being, I would not have gotten 22 00:01:18,100 --> 00:01:22,420 sleep, I would have done that problem set and so on. 23 00:01:28,140 --> 00:01:29,440 If you were not at MIT -- 24 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,340 MIT is merely at one extreme here. 25 00:01:37,340 --> 00:01:41,920 Western civilization in general increasingly, since 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,570 the invention of the lightbulb, has been an 27 00:01:45,570 --> 00:01:53,190 increasingly sleep-abusing, mechanism-abusing culture. 28 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:56,590 But if you were left to your own devices or to what nature 29 00:01:56,590 --> 00:01:58,820 had intended, you'd be sleeping about eight hours a 30 00:01:58,820 --> 00:02:04,620 night, and you would be doing this across your life span 31 00:02:04,620 --> 00:02:07,570 with the result that you would spend about a third of your 32 00:02:07,570 --> 00:02:13,670 life asleep in this altered state of consciousness or 33 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:14,920 unconsciousness. 34 00:02:16,780 --> 00:02:21,420 That, if you're teaching a course on human behavior and 35 00:02:21,420 --> 00:02:26,030 human mental life, that requires some explanation. 36 00:02:26,030 --> 00:02:28,500 Why do people sleep? 37 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:35,210 What is the nature of that behavior left 38 00:02:35,210 --> 00:02:36,650 to its normal state? 39 00:02:36,650 --> 00:02:39,350 What happens when you abuse it? 40 00:02:39,350 --> 00:02:43,960 Why do people dream, which is psychologically, perhaps, the 41 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,390 most interesting piece of sleep. 42 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:49,020 Is it possible to get any -- 43 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:50,750 do those dreams, do those weird 44 00:02:50,750 --> 00:02:52,400 stories have any meaning? 45 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,810 Those are the questions that I'll talk about. 46 00:02:54,810 --> 00:02:58,200 I don't know if I'll get to end of it today, otherwise 47 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,810 I'll pick up after Thanksgiving. 48 00:03:02,810 --> 00:03:08,930 Let's talk initially about why and how you sleep. 49 00:03:08,930 --> 00:03:11,870 Well, look, I mean one level of answer would be you sleep 50 00:03:11,870 --> 00:03:18,630 because every so often nuclei, collections of nerve cells 51 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:23,940 deep down in your brain stem send volleys of signals up to 52 00:03:23,940 --> 00:03:27,180 the rest of your brain that basically make like a hammer 53 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:28,970 and knock you out. 54 00:03:28,970 --> 00:03:31,420 But that's not a deeply satisfying answer. 55 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:37,180 It does point to the fact that it's a very basic drive, and 56 00:03:37,180 --> 00:03:38,910 it's a very powerful drive. 57 00:03:38,910 --> 00:03:45,070 Look, if you wanted to you could, for example, as a 58 00:03:45,070 --> 00:03:52,890 statement of extreme political conviction, sit right here and 59 00:03:52,890 --> 00:03:55,340 starve yourself to death. 60 00:03:55,340 --> 00:03:57,590 Hunger is an important drive. 61 00:03:57,590 --> 00:03:59,686 There are several people illustrating that 62 00:03:59,686 --> 00:04:03,100 at this very moment. 63 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:08,380 If you wanted, you could override that and not eat, 64 00:04:08,380 --> 00:04:11,640 even to the point of killing yourself. 65 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,560 That's not true, for example, about your breathing. 66 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,770 If you wanted to sit here and hold your breath until you 67 00:04:19,770 --> 00:04:23,550 died, it wouldn't work. 68 00:04:23,550 --> 00:04:27,840 You may have tried this when you were little. 69 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:30,680 One of my two sisters used to be a fan of this. 70 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,160 If we were teasing her and chasing her she would just 71 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,750 hold her breath until she keeled over, which was very 72 00:04:36,750 --> 00:04:41,020 dramatic, but not, in fact, life threatening, except in 73 00:04:41,020 --> 00:04:44,010 indirect sense that my mother was not thrilled with us 74 00:04:44,010 --> 00:04:46,090 making my little sister pass out. 75 00:04:49,310 --> 00:04:51,455 You could ask her, she'll be here tomorrow, but you'll all 76 00:04:51,455 --> 00:04:52,180 be leaving. 77 00:04:52,180 --> 00:05:03,863 Anyway, this drive to sleep is more like the need to breath 78 00:05:03,863 --> 00:05:06,170 than the need to eat in that sense. 79 00:05:06,170 --> 00:05:10,890 If you were to sit here and by an act of will declare I will 80 00:05:10,890 --> 00:05:14,530 not fall asleep -- and look, as you well know, there's a 81 00:05:14,530 --> 00:05:17,695 substantial number of you who can't manage to do that for an 82 00:05:17,695 --> 00:05:19,780 hour and a half. 83 00:05:19,780 --> 00:05:21,850 That has to do with how you're abusing the normal 84 00:05:21,850 --> 00:05:23,100 mechanism on -- 85 00:05:25,410 --> 00:05:30,025 when I first was teaching, I used to look out at 10250 full 86 00:05:30,025 --> 00:05:33,120 of intro psych students in they're ahh. 87 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,940 I'm thinking I'm not being lively enough here. 88 00:05:35,940 --> 00:05:38,610 I realize at this point, I could be setting off large 89 00:05:38,610 --> 00:05:41,410 explosions on a regular basis and it wouldn't matter for 90 00:05:41,410 --> 00:05:43,050 some people. 91 00:05:43,050 --> 00:05:45,380 We'll get to that in a minute. 92 00:05:45,380 --> 00:05:52,200 But even those of you who are well-rested, you could not sit 93 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,980 here and not sleep. 94 00:05:53,980 --> 00:05:56,710 Probably you couldn't make it for twenty-four hours. 95 00:05:56,710 --> 00:05:59,450 Absolutely you could not make it for forty-eight hours 96 00:05:59,450 --> 00:06:05,790 without external help, either from drugs, like caffeine, or 97 00:06:05,790 --> 00:06:08,630 more particularly from somebody smacking you around 98 00:06:08,630 --> 00:06:09,850 to keep you awake. 99 00:06:09,850 --> 00:06:12,940 If you're in a sleep lab and you want to keep somebody 100 00:06:12,940 --> 00:06:20,150 awake for thirty-six hours or something to see what happens, 101 00:06:20,150 --> 00:06:23,470 you sure don't say, I'll give you ten bucks if you can stay 102 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:24,720 awake all night. 103 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,760 You need somebody there to slap them around and keep them 104 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,500 moving or they'll be out. 105 00:06:30,500 --> 00:06:33,140 There's just no way to suppress that. 106 00:06:33,140 --> 00:06:37,280 It's a very, very powerful drive. 107 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:40,350 So, how come? 108 00:06:40,350 --> 00:06:42,860 What's doing this? 109 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:49,200 Your need to sleep is driven by two primary factors. 110 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,810 One of them is a so-called circadian rhythm. 111 00:06:51,810 --> 00:06:55,630 The term comes from -- circadian is about a day, 112 00:06:55,630 --> 00:06:58,650 because it's a rhythm with a periodicity of about 113 00:06:58,650 --> 00:07:01,850 twenty-four hours. 114 00:07:01,850 --> 00:07:06,190 If you manage to measure it in isolation, and you were to 115 00:07:06,190 --> 00:07:09,000 measure something like alertness, it would have a 116 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,410 roughly sinusoidal shape to it, this particular drive. 117 00:07:13,410 --> 00:07:15,910 When you wake up, it's actually at a 118 00:07:15,910 --> 00:07:18,820 relative low point. 119 00:07:18,820 --> 00:07:19,800 Yeah, right. 120 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,990 At six a.m. on this chart, is it a relative low point? 121 00:07:23,990 --> 00:07:29,550 It rises your alertness driven by the circadian clock, rises 122 00:07:29,550 --> 00:07:33,710 systematically during the course of the day till early 123 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:38,390 evening, and then declines to a nadir around four or five in 124 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:39,140 the morning. 125 00:07:39,140 --> 00:07:43,040 When you're trying to stay up all night, that time in the 126 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,230 wee hours of the morning when it's just really, really tough 127 00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:52,310 and you're getting the shakes and all, is when this 128 00:07:52,310 --> 00:07:57,360 circadian clock is crashing, is hitting its minimum. 129 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,690 How do we measure this? 130 00:07:58,690 --> 00:08:00,600 How do we measure circadian cycles? 131 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,490 Well, if you're a mouse it's actually relatively easy. 132 00:08:04,490 --> 00:08:06,860 Stick a mouse in a cage with one of those little running 133 00:08:06,860 --> 00:08:12,890 wheels and put a sensor on the running wheel, and you'll get 134 00:08:12,890 --> 00:08:15,600 out a graph that looks like the graph that 135 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,530 I put on the handout. 136 00:08:16,530 --> 00:08:20,400 Each of the lines on that graph is one day, so you've 137 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:26,060 got a day here, and the mouse is doing nothing much. 138 00:08:26,060 --> 00:08:30,870 Then at a certain point, the mouse jumps on the wheel and 139 00:08:30,870 --> 00:08:31,400 does stuff. 140 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:36,340 Now, the convention of the circadian trade is to 141 00:08:36,340 --> 00:08:37,750 double-plot their data. 142 00:08:37,750 --> 00:08:42,130 So the line is the same data plotted twice. 143 00:08:42,130 --> 00:08:44,650 It's just makes it easier to see trends over the day. 144 00:08:44,650 --> 00:08:48,100 So this is inactivity, activity, same day. 145 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:55,200 This is twenty-four hours. 146 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:06,113 You can see that the mouse does this every day, for day 147 00:09:06,113 --> 00:09:10,600 after day, like clockwork, as it were, because the mouse has 148 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,200 this little clock that's telling it. 149 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:18,630 Now, the point at which the mouse is firing things up, 150 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:23,540 right about here, is the mouse was on a twelve hour 151 00:09:23,540 --> 00:09:25,500 light/dark schedule, and when the lights go out, 152 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:26,760 the mouse turns on. 153 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,870 It's a nocturnal beastie. 154 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:30,420 When the lights go out he jumps on the 155 00:09:30,420 --> 00:09:32,360 wheel and goes berserk. 156 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:37,280 Now, what happens halfway down that graph where there's an 157 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,520 arrow pointing at the side of the data, at that point you 158 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,180 leave the lights on continuously. 159 00:09:44,180 --> 00:09:50,360 What you discover is the mouse still behaves in a very 160 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,270 systematic fashion. 161 00:09:51,270 --> 00:09:53,550 I'm not going to bother double-plotting my data 162 00:09:53,550 --> 00:09:55,270 anymore here. 163 00:09:55,270 --> 00:10:02,830 But now the period is starting to drift. 164 00:10:02,830 --> 00:10:06,510 The mouse is now doing what's known as free-running, and 165 00:10:06,510 --> 00:10:09,820 this is a way that you can take a look at the circadian 166 00:10:09,820 --> 00:10:16,110 cycle in this beastie because he's now no longer got the 167 00:10:16,110 --> 00:10:19,440 light signal telling him what time it is. 168 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,890 What you discover is that it's advancing by about thirty 169 00:10:22,890 --> 00:10:28,520 minutes a day, because the mouse clock has a period, a 170 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,690 circadian period of about twenty-three and 171 00:10:30,690 --> 00:10:32,400 a half hours -- 172 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,610 not quite twenty-four hours. 173 00:10:35,610 --> 00:10:38,600 If you were in the same experiment and you were 174 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,470 inclined to run around in a wheel, the day would actually 175 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:46,490 go this way a little bit, because the human clock has a 176 00:10:46,490 --> 00:10:50,020 period of about twenty-four and a quarter to twenty-four 177 00:10:50,020 --> 00:10:51,920 and a half hours, some variation. 178 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,330 It's again, around a day. 179 00:10:55,330 --> 00:11:01,150 It gets synchronized to the real day 180 00:11:01,150 --> 00:11:03,820 by light most strongly. 181 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:07,200 So you know when it's morning because that's when 182 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,800 the sun comes up. 183 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,790 If you never get outside and you live in constant light, 184 00:11:11,790 --> 00:11:14,960 your clock may be drifting too in something fashion. 185 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,990 But given a normal exposure to light/dark cycles, 186 00:11:18,990 --> 00:11:20,800 that sets the clock. 187 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,030 How many people are flying across time zones to 188 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:25,330 the next few days? 189 00:11:25,330 --> 00:11:29,260 So you guys are all going to be jet lagged in some fashion, 190 00:11:29,260 --> 00:11:33,570 because your clock is set for East coast, U.S., you'll go 191 00:11:33,570 --> 00:11:35,800 someplace else. 192 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,700 Get outside because it's exposure to the sun 193 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:40,930 that will reset you. 194 00:11:40,930 --> 00:11:43,050 Exposure to these sort of lights will reset you too, but 195 00:11:43,050 --> 00:11:47,780 the sun is sufficiently brighter that it makes a 196 00:11:47,780 --> 00:11:49,130 bigger difference. 197 00:11:49,130 --> 00:11:52,480 This clock, by the way, has a home. 198 00:11:52,480 --> 00:12:05,530 It's located in the suprachiasmatic nucleus. 199 00:12:05,530 --> 00:12:07,420 Looks more complicated than it is. 200 00:12:07,420 --> 00:12:10,180 Supra for above. 201 00:12:10,180 --> 00:12:16,180 Chiasmatic for the optic chiasm, that x where the optic 202 00:12:16,180 --> 00:12:21,560 nerves cross on the way from the eyes to the brain. 203 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:24,790 This sits right on top of that and gets direct 204 00:12:24,790 --> 00:12:25,780 input from the retina. 205 00:12:25,780 --> 00:12:29,840 It's got its own visual system in a sense. 206 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,602 How do we know that this is where the clock lives? 207 00:12:33,602 --> 00:12:34,640 There are a number of ways. 208 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,000 But the coolest way that we know that this is where the 209 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:43,270 clock lives is that there are clock mutants out there, 210 00:12:43,270 --> 00:12:46,670 probably some human, but certainly mouse mutants. 211 00:12:46,670 --> 00:12:50,570 Suppose you got a mouse mutant who, let's say, has a clock 212 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:55,130 running at, say, twenty-two hours or something like that. 213 00:12:55,130 --> 00:12:59,250 You can go in, take out the suprachiasmatic nucleus from 214 00:12:59,250 --> 00:13:03,720 that mouse, put it into another mouse -- and this is a 215 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,720 case where a brain transplant will actually work. 216 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,080 The recipient mouse will now start running with the clock 217 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,420 timing of the donor mouse. 218 00:13:15,420 --> 00:13:19,180 If you want a new clock, you can actually go and get -- 219 00:13:19,180 --> 00:13:23,030 I don't know if you go and get one from a mouse, and probably 220 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:24,940 your neighbor doesn't want to donate. 221 00:13:28,110 --> 00:13:30,650 There are also other clocks, by the way, that live in 222 00:13:30,650 --> 00:13:33,770 places like your liver, but the main clock running your 223 00:13:33,770 --> 00:13:39,650 behavior is sitting up there in your brain and reset by 224 00:13:39,650 --> 00:13:45,660 light, and in fact, can be transplanted, apparently. 225 00:13:45,660 --> 00:13:50,940 Now, humans don't tend to run in little 226 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:54,390 mouse wheels very much. 227 00:13:54,390 --> 00:13:59,980 If you want to measure this in a human, if you stick a human 228 00:13:59,980 --> 00:14:06,220 in continuous light, and cut them off from the external 229 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:08,465 world, which you can get yourself paid 230 00:14:08,465 --> 00:14:09,830 to do if you want. 231 00:14:09,830 --> 00:14:14,570 One of the leading sleep labs in the world, actually, is 232 00:14:14,570 --> 00:14:17,120 across the river at Brigham and Women's. 233 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,710 My lab actually does some collaborating with them. 234 00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:22,550 So if you're interested talk to me. 235 00:14:22,550 --> 00:14:23,985 People do this as a summer job. 236 00:14:23,985 --> 00:14:28,390 You get locked in the lab for the summer. 237 00:14:28,390 --> 00:14:30,605 People think oh, I'm going to write the great American novel 238 00:14:30,605 --> 00:14:32,530 or something like that while I stay up 239 00:14:32,530 --> 00:14:34,390 all night or something. 240 00:14:34,390 --> 00:14:36,780 But you get paid a decent rate for this. 241 00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:44,360 Now we're going to want to keep track of what your 242 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,020 circadian clock is doing. 243 00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:50,430 The sorts of things that vary with your clock are, for 244 00:14:50,430 --> 00:14:53,740 example, body temperature. 245 00:14:53,740 --> 00:14:57,320 Your body temperature has about a one degree plus and 246 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,830 minus swing with the circadian clock. 247 00:15:01,830 --> 00:15:05,510 So, if you've got a fever, for example, you'd probably 248 00:15:05,510 --> 00:15:07,760 remember from when you were a little kid that your fever 249 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,390 would peak in the early evening. 250 00:15:10,390 --> 00:15:12,900 If you stay up all night it's four in the morning where you 251 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:14,450 suddenly feel chilled. 252 00:15:14,450 --> 00:15:16,610 That's because your body temperature is actually 253 00:15:16,610 --> 00:15:19,580 varying as a function of the circadian cycle. 254 00:15:19,580 --> 00:15:23,815 There are lots of circulating hormones, like melatonin and 255 00:15:23,815 --> 00:15:27,430 others, in the blood that also track the circadian clock. 256 00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:32,570 So, if you're in the lab, somebody is going to be 257 00:15:32,570 --> 00:15:36,180 monitoring these various aspects of your physiology in 258 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:39,460 an effort to take a look at where your circadian clock is. 259 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:41,850 This is one of the things that sort of discourages people 260 00:15:41,850 --> 00:15:45,730 from immediately signing up, because well, for instance, if 261 00:15:45,730 --> 00:15:47,830 you're going to be taking continuous measures of body 262 00:15:47,830 --> 00:15:50,220 temperature, the thermometer is not under your tongue. 263 00:15:54,970 --> 00:15:59,450 It's a slow group. 264 00:15:59,450 --> 00:16:10,650 Anyway, so you got the circadian clock that's driving 265 00:16:10,650 --> 00:16:13,590 your alertness. 266 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:17,730 The other piece that's driving you're alertness, or inversely 267 00:16:17,730 --> 00:16:23,370 this powerful drive to sleep, is sometimes called the sleep 268 00:16:23,370 --> 00:16:23,860 homeostatic. 269 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:26,790 It's simply a homeostatic mechanism that says the longer 270 00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:31,300 you're awake, the more tired you get. 271 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:34,200 This is not a huge surprise. 272 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,680 So we can graph that here. 273 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,590 So this again, alertness. 274 00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:40,940 Let's say this is 6:00 a.m. again, now let's say that you 275 00:16:40,940 --> 00:16:44,200 wake up at something like 8:00, and basically it's a 276 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,880 roughly linear function of during the day you get 277 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,610 sleepier and sleepier and sleepier and sleepier, and 278 00:16:50,610 --> 00:16:51,770 sleepier, and sleepier. 279 00:16:51,770 --> 00:16:53,530 This thing builds up pressure to sleep. 280 00:16:53,530 --> 00:16:54,950 If you now go to sleep at let's 281 00:16:54,950 --> 00:16:57,140 say 11:00, that recovers. 282 00:16:57,140 --> 00:17:02,250 It recovers at least initially rather steeply, and then 283 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:04,170 probably has a sort of an exponential tail. 284 00:17:04,170 --> 00:17:09,070 It's not absolutely clear. 285 00:17:09,070 --> 00:17:15,460 But if you combine these two, well, if you were to combine 286 00:17:15,460 --> 00:17:20,740 these two in the way that nature intended, what you get 287 00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:25,930 is a sustained period of -- 288 00:17:25,930 --> 00:17:27,220 let's look at the course of the day. 289 00:17:27,220 --> 00:17:33,360 Suppose you wake up in the relatively early morning, your 290 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:39,510 circadian clock is relatively depressed, so it's still 291 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:41,170 feeling kind of sleepy. 292 00:17:41,170 --> 00:17:46,680 But you're homeostat is fully refreshed, so you're up here, 293 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,870 let's say, in alertness land. 294 00:17:49,870 --> 00:17:54,460 Now as the homeostat is going down, the circadian 295 00:17:54,460 --> 00:17:56,390 chunk is going up. 296 00:17:56,390 --> 00:17:59,890 So for a sustained period of the day, say till early 297 00:17:59,890 --> 00:18:04,270 evening, you have roughly level alertness. 298 00:18:04,270 --> 00:18:07,725 Believe it or not, that's what really happens to people who 299 00:18:07,725 --> 00:18:08,610 are well-rested. 300 00:18:08,610 --> 00:18:11,350 They are awake during the day. 301 00:18:13,850 --> 00:18:24,640 Some time in early evening when the circadian clock turns 302 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,430 downward, things start going downhill for you and your 303 00:18:28,430 --> 00:18:32,720 alertness starts steadily dropping. 304 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,623 At some point it drops enough that you -- well, that people 305 00:18:38,623 --> 00:18:41,930 who are not abusing the system -- 306 00:18:41,930 --> 00:18:43,250 go to sleep. 307 00:18:47,230 --> 00:18:52,900 So now, you're asleep so you're not terribly alert. 308 00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:56,240 So what's happening now is, so you're down here in asleep 309 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,210 land somewhere, now your homeostat 310 00:18:59,210 --> 00:19:01,270 is recovering, right? 311 00:19:01,270 --> 00:19:05,110 But in the early portions of your sleep, or during the 312 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:07,150 course of the night, this circadian thing is still 313 00:19:07,150 --> 00:19:08,420 crashing down. 314 00:19:08,420 --> 00:19:12,610 So even though you may have climbed up here already on the 315 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:17,390 homeostat, you're crashing down to here and the circadian 316 00:19:17,390 --> 00:19:20,110 thing is saying stay asleep, stay asleep, 317 00:19:20,110 --> 00:19:21,294 it's good for you. 318 00:19:21,294 --> 00:19:26,370 You should be asleep for this sustained eight hours. 319 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:32,380 Then it turns around in the early morning hours and 4:00, 320 00:19:32,380 --> 00:19:33,440 5:00, 6:00 a.m. 321 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,940 you wake with the chickens and you're bright and perky and 322 00:19:36,940 --> 00:19:40,600 alert, like you are every morning. 323 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,150 You're back. 324 00:19:41,150 --> 00:19:44,380 So what you get out of this system, if it's being allowed 325 00:19:44,380 --> 00:19:49,690 to work properly, is a sustained period of alertness 326 00:19:49,690 --> 00:19:52,570 during the day, and the sustained bout of 327 00:19:52,570 --> 00:19:53,650 sleep during the night. 328 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:59,940 If you crash the circadian system, for instance, you end 329 00:19:59,940 --> 00:20:03,930 up with broken sleep. 330 00:20:03,930 --> 00:20:10,210 So, you blow up a mouse's circadian clock, and what you 331 00:20:10,210 --> 00:20:13,600 get is a mouse who runs and naps, and runs and naps, and 332 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:19,470 runs and naps -- doesn't have this organized pattern to it. 333 00:20:19,470 --> 00:20:24,440 Now, the great tragedy, of course, is that you guys who 334 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,850 are in the peak of your ability to do this 335 00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:31,120 aren't doing it. 336 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:34,730 You're abusing the pants off it. 337 00:20:34,730 --> 00:20:37,810 The structure of sleep changes over the 338 00:20:37,810 --> 00:20:40,730 course of the lifespan. 339 00:20:40,730 --> 00:20:45,780 Babies sleep for a lot longer than adults do. 340 00:20:45,780 --> 00:20:50,220 After early childhood, people have a fairly constant 341 00:20:50,220 --> 00:20:52,290 requirement for about eight hours. 342 00:20:52,290 --> 00:20:55,480 The range is really about seven to nine hours. 343 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:01,610 People who say they require only four hours of sleep or 344 00:21:01,610 --> 00:21:04,110 something like that are basically lying to you. 345 00:21:06,850 --> 00:21:10,010 Thomas Edison, right, he's always trotted out as the 346 00:21:10,010 --> 00:21:10,900 example here. 347 00:21:10,900 --> 00:21:12,860 I don't remember what he needed, two hours a night, 348 00:21:12,860 --> 00:21:13,560 four hours a night. 349 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,000 Well, there was a reason the man had a cot in is office. 350 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,380 The people who don't sleep eight hours at night are 351 00:21:20,380 --> 00:21:22,770 catching naps when they can and they're building up a 352 00:21:22,770 --> 00:21:26,200 sleep debt the rest of the time. 353 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,850 The sleep debt is -- 354 00:21:27,850 --> 00:21:37,520 if you are Dement, William Dement, Stanford sleep 355 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,390 researcher coined the term sleep debt, I think, argues 356 00:21:41,390 --> 00:21:43,360 that it may be the biggest health problem in 357 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:44,820 the U.S. Why is that? 358 00:21:44,820 --> 00:21:47,760 Well because all sorts of stuff from traffic accidents 359 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:54,290 to industrial accidents and so on, occur basically in the wee 360 00:21:54,290 --> 00:21:57,850 hours of the morning when the circadian clock is busy 361 00:21:57,850 --> 00:22:03,600 crashing, because sleepiness is not good for behavior, as 362 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,210 you may have noticed in various and sundry ways. 363 00:22:07,210 --> 00:22:11,490 When you get older, it turns out to get harder -- for 364 00:22:11,490 --> 00:22:13,910 reasons we don't really understand -- to maintain this 365 00:22:13,910 --> 00:22:16,240 consolidated period of sleep. 366 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:22,690 So, it is a sad fact that I, for instance, do not typically 367 00:22:22,690 --> 00:22:26,490 manage to sleep eight hours solidly, anything like eight 368 00:22:26,490 --> 00:22:31,330 hours solidly, at a stretch anymore, even though I have 369 00:22:31,330 --> 00:22:35,470 long ago abandoned my various efforts to abuse the system. 370 00:22:35,470 --> 00:22:37,720 I'd love to sleep a solid twelve, seven 371 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,260 would be happy enough. 372 00:22:39,260 --> 00:22:42,160 But as you get older it's harder to maintain it. 373 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,910 You can do it now and you're not doing it. 374 00:22:44,910 --> 00:22:46,770 It's so sad. 375 00:22:46,770 --> 00:22:49,870 So, what are you doing and why are you so deluded? 376 00:22:49,870 --> 00:22:54,590 Well, in part you're being deluded by this circadian 377 00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:57,780 clock, because what happens? 378 00:22:57,780 --> 00:23:00,370 You stay up all night, right. 379 00:23:00,370 --> 00:23:02,340 So, where should we plot this? 380 00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:03,590 What we don't have any colors. 381 00:23:08,740 --> 00:23:12,090 Let's assume that you were once well-rested like before 382 00:23:12,090 --> 00:23:15,630 you arrived at MIT or something, and 383 00:23:15,630 --> 00:23:19,160 you stay up all night. 384 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,770 So you were doing fine till here and now you're 385 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:24,010 going to stay up. 386 00:23:24,010 --> 00:23:26,620 I'm getting sleepier here. 387 00:23:26,620 --> 00:23:30,290 Well, there's the coffee and the Jolt cola. 388 00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:36,580 Who knows what else smacking you around. 389 00:23:36,580 --> 00:23:38,690 Stuff happens. 390 00:23:38,690 --> 00:23:42,210 But you know, you're fighting a losing battle here. 391 00:23:42,210 --> 00:23:46,310 At 4:00 in the morning and you're barely holding on, and 392 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:49,560 let me tell you that psych paper that you're writing at 393 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,590 that point is not your best work. 394 00:23:54,140 --> 00:23:55,700 So there goes 4:00 in the morning. 395 00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:59,670 But 6:00, 7:00 in the morning, you've been up all night. 396 00:23:59,670 --> 00:24:00,490 What happens? 397 00:24:00,490 --> 00:24:04,310 The circadian clock turns around. 398 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:11,230 I did it, I did it, I don't need your sleep, I'm so good. 399 00:24:11,230 --> 00:24:12,970 I'm a real MIT student! 400 00:24:12,970 --> 00:24:19,460 This is great, but it's all fake. 401 00:24:19,460 --> 00:24:21,690 You think you're getting back up here, forget it. 402 00:24:21,690 --> 00:24:22,820 You're in here somewhere. 403 00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:24,420 Klunk, like that. 404 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:31,480 So you're ambling around in this business. 405 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,660 If you think that this is great evidence that I'm 406 00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:39,270 superman and I don't need to sleep, try 407 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:41,140 it the second night. 408 00:24:41,140 --> 00:24:43,950 I don't know how many of you have ever tried staying awake 409 00:24:43,950 --> 00:24:44,590 two nights. 410 00:24:44,590 --> 00:24:49,580 The way to stay awake two nights in a row is to have 411 00:24:49,580 --> 00:24:53,870 somebody shooting at you. 412 00:24:53,870 --> 00:24:58,660 Leading funders of sleep research are Army and 413 00:24:58,660 --> 00:25:01,890 Airforce, and they have a very particular interest. 414 00:25:01,890 --> 00:25:03,330 Their interest is -- well, they 415 00:25:03,330 --> 00:25:04,400 have sort of two interests. 416 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,530 One of the army interests is we're going to take over this 417 00:25:08,530 --> 00:25:11,120 country in a hundred hours straight and our boys ain't 418 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:14,930 going to sleep until it's done, and we don't want any 419 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:18,070 ill effects of this. 420 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:19,805 Got some good drugs for us, we need drugs, 421 00:25:19,805 --> 00:25:21,470 we want good drugs. 422 00:25:21,470 --> 00:25:23,730 That's for the Army research program. 423 00:25:23,730 --> 00:25:27,760 The Airforce says, we can fly at night, this is cool, we've 424 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,610 got really cool toys, we can fly at night. 425 00:25:30,610 --> 00:25:34,350 It's really bad when the helicopter guy falls asleep, 426 00:25:34,350 --> 00:25:39,170 so we need him to stay awake at bad times. 427 00:25:39,170 --> 00:25:43,580 So they're big time funders of this kind of stuff. 428 00:25:43,580 --> 00:25:49,000 It is the fact that the sort of thing -- your general level 429 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,510 of arousal will keep you up, and so the panicked sense that 430 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:55,480 you're going to flunk psych if you don't finish the paper 431 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,140 will do some good. 432 00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:59,560 The panicked sense that if you fall asleep somebody's going 433 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,220 to shoot you does a lot of good. 434 00:26:03,220 --> 00:26:08,250 You can stay awake for a long time under that basis. 435 00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:12,220 But it's not that you miraculously if you just can 436 00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:15,020 make it past here you get back up here. 437 00:26:17,530 --> 00:26:20,040 This thing, if you don't keep recovering, 438 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,340 it just keeps going. 439 00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:27,900 Eventually you're going to fall asleep. 440 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:33,390 It's just going to happen to you. 441 00:26:33,390 --> 00:26:38,810 So that's the broad sort of twenty-four 442 00:26:38,810 --> 00:26:41,800 hour scale of sleep. 443 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:48,670 Within that, there's a structure on top of that. 444 00:26:48,670 --> 00:26:55,550 This is sort of a ninety minute ripple sitting on top 445 00:26:55,550 --> 00:27:01,150 of this circadian clock that runs all day and 446 00:27:01,150 --> 00:27:02,220 while you're asleep. 447 00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:07,840 You know this during the day by the variations -- what 448 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,610 would you may have noticed were reliable fluctuations in 449 00:27:10,610 --> 00:27:13,960 your own alertness during the day. 450 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,170 In fact, you can probably do this -- 451 00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:20,630 I should collect data on this some year. 452 00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:23,030 I'll have to make up a little questionnaire. 453 00:27:23,030 --> 00:27:26,000 The clock is about ninety minutes, this lecture's about 454 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,990 ninety minutes. 455 00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:34,610 So sometime during this lecture, you'll hit the nadir 456 00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:37,080 of that ninety minute cycle. 457 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,320 Actually, I can at least ask a general question. 458 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,140 How many people think they could identify within plus or 459 00:27:45,140 --> 00:27:49,040 minus fifteen minutes the point during an average intro 460 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,790 psych lecture where they're going, if they're going to 461 00:27:52,790 --> 00:27:54,270 lose is, where are they going to lose it? 462 00:27:57,530 --> 00:28:01,320 Many of us know that there are just chunks of 463 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,770 time that are bad. 464 00:28:03,770 --> 00:28:06,160 You might notice, if you check out, if you were to 465 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,750 systematically survey those during the course of the day, 466 00:28:08,750 --> 00:28:10,710 of course, it interacts with things like when you eat your 467 00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:12,920 meals, when you get up, whether you ever got to sleep 468 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,550 last night and things like that, but you may be able to 469 00:28:15,550 --> 00:28:19,530 peg a series of these spaced out at ninety minutes or maybe 470 00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:24,000 180 minutes during the course of the day. 471 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,360 You see these at night, too. 472 00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:39,690 To talk about that let's fill out this cute little chart on 473 00:28:39,690 --> 00:28:41,000 the handout. 474 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:47,930 If I just stick a bunch of electrodes on your head and 475 00:28:47,930 --> 00:28:50,970 record the electroencephalogram the mass 476 00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:58,770 potentials off of billions of neurons in your brain, what I 477 00:28:58,770 --> 00:29:05,810 will see grossly is high frequency, low amplitude stuff 478 00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:07,770 while you are awake. 479 00:29:07,770 --> 00:29:12,160 So this is EEG. 480 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,240 Depending on where I put my electrode in the brain -- on 481 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,320 the scalp, rather, I can get a lot of other interesting 482 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,480 information out of it. 483 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,640 But for present purposes the important thing is that the 484 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,320 mass activity of the brain is relatively high frequency, low 485 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,650 amplitude stuff. 486 00:29:28,650 --> 00:29:35,870 If I now take a look at you when you are deeply asleep, 487 00:29:35,870 --> 00:29:42,460 what I will find is low frequency, high amplitude 488 00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:50,220 waves, roughly corresponding to -- 489 00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:54,490 what's going on is in deep sleep, large bodies of neurons 490 00:29:54,490 --> 00:29:56,860 are firing together -- 491 00:29:56,860 --> 00:29:59,515 everybody's on then everybody's off. 492 00:29:59,515 --> 00:30:04,760 If you're woken up out of that state, that's the I don't know 493 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,110 where I am kind of state. 494 00:30:08,110 --> 00:30:12,210 You're deeply asleep here. 495 00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:15,110 The interesting thing, discovered now about fifty 496 00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:24,000 years ago, is that every ninety minutes or so you'll go 497 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,200 into what we will call Rapid Eye Movement sleep for reasons 498 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,610 that will be apparently in the next line of this table, where 499 00:30:31,610 --> 00:30:37,430 all of a sudden the brain goes back to this high frequency, 500 00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:41,270 low amplitude kind of signal. 501 00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:44,811 Now, research over the course of the fifty years makes it 502 00:30:44,811 --> 00:30:47,600 clear this is not exactly the same as this, but it certainly 503 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,770 looks awake-like. 504 00:30:50,770 --> 00:30:52,810 So the person is still clearly asleep. 505 00:30:52,810 --> 00:30:55,370 The interesting thing is if you wake somebody up out of 506 00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:58,820 this state, they will reliably report that they are dreaming. 507 00:30:58,820 --> 00:31:00,710 Not all the time. 508 00:31:00,710 --> 00:31:03,630 If you wake people up out of this state, they will reliably 509 00:31:03,630 --> 00:31:05,310 report that they are not dreaming. 510 00:31:05,310 --> 00:31:07,990 Again, not all the time. 511 00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:09,780 It's not a perfect divide. 512 00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:12,560 But lots of narrative dreaming here. 513 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,220 Here you tend to get if you wake people up and say what 514 00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:19,140 was going on, you might get an isolated thought or some idea 515 00:31:19,140 --> 00:31:22,470 that was rattling around, but you won't get that I was 516 00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:24,940 flying naked through the infinite corridor with a panda 517 00:31:24,940 --> 00:31:27,680 on my back or something. 518 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,160 We'll talk about that later. 519 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:42,730 This is the nighttime manifestation of that ninety 520 00:31:42,730 --> 00:31:46,410 minute cycle that you also see running during the 521 00:31:46,410 --> 00:31:47,400 course of the day. 522 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,160 You can pick that up in the movements of the eyes, too. 523 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,960 That's the electro-oculogram. 524 00:31:52,960 --> 00:32:04,480 While you are awake, your eyes move ballistically to the left 525 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,220 and to the right. 526 00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:09,120 Your eyes are sitting in one place then jumping someplace 527 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,690 else and moving around like so. 528 00:32:11,690 --> 00:32:15,270 The two eyes are moving together, so-called consensual 529 00:32:15,270 --> 00:32:17,680 eye movement. 530 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,090 In deep sleep, those ballistic movements, called saccades, 531 00:32:23,090 --> 00:32:27,980 disappear and the consensual movements are damped down to 532 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:32,060 so the eyes are kind of rolling around in your head 533 00:32:32,060 --> 00:32:35,630 and they're not necessarily rolling in that same place. 534 00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:42,340 When you go into Rapid Eye Movement sleep, the reason it 535 00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:44,870 was called Rapid Eye Movement sleep, it's the eyes look like 536 00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:46,190 they're awake again. 537 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:49,950 So again, ballistically jumping 538 00:32:49,950 --> 00:32:54,330 around and jumping together. 539 00:32:54,330 --> 00:32:57,850 Is the pattern of eye movements related to what's 540 00:32:57,850 --> 00:33:00,450 going on in your dream? 541 00:33:00,450 --> 00:33:02,680 Well, there's anecdotal evidence for it, but if you 542 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,440 think about it it's very difficult to do the experiment 543 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,340 in any terribly meaningful -- 544 00:33:08,340 --> 00:33:11,810 actually there's some interesting data in animals at 545 00:33:11,810 --> 00:33:13,780 this point. 546 00:33:13,780 --> 00:33:17,190 In any case, the eyes look like they're awake here. 547 00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:20,500 The eyes, they're doing the same thing that they were 548 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:22,560 doing when they were awake. 549 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:28,320 You can see this in your roommate, particularly if your 550 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,840 roommate has relatively thin lids. 551 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,210 You can often see the eyes moving around under the lids, 552 00:33:36,210 --> 00:33:40,280 and if you watch your sleeping roommate, your sleeping 553 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,820 roommate may think you're a weirdo when he 554 00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:43,600 or she wakes up. 555 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,200 But you can actually see the eyes jerking 556 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,760 around under the lids. 557 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,780 If you have an unusual roommate who sleeps with the 558 00:33:57,780 --> 00:33:59,590 eyes open -- 559 00:33:59,590 --> 00:34:01,280 this actually happens. 560 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,040 The reason for sleeping with your eyes closed has 561 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,970 less to do with -- 562 00:34:06,970 --> 00:34:09,480 it presumably has something to do with cutting the light out, 563 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,910 but it had mostly to do with keeping the cornea hydrated, 564 00:34:12,910 --> 00:34:15,700 keeping it moist while you're asleep. 565 00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:19,180 If you sleep with your eyes open, you wake up with nasty, 566 00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:21,160 scratchy, itchy eyeballs. 567 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,230 Because if you think about it, you don't sleep 568 00:34:23,230 --> 00:34:25,090 with your ears closed. 569 00:34:25,090 --> 00:34:29,900 It's perfectly possible to use your brain in some fashion to 570 00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:33,530 shut off enough of the ambient outside stimulus to go to 571 00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:36,190 sleep to get rid of the auditory stimulus. 572 00:34:36,190 --> 00:34:39,390 So, in principle, you can do that with your eyes too. 573 00:34:39,390 --> 00:34:42,190 But you close your eyes to keep them nice and moist. 574 00:34:42,190 --> 00:34:44,040 So some people that doesn't work terribly -- 575 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,620 I traveled across France in a train with a guy who fell 576 00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:54,990 asleep but his eyes were open, and it's like traveling across 577 00:34:54,990 --> 00:34:58,760 France with the undead. 578 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,330 Because at some point he went into REM sleep and his eyes 579 00:35:02,330 --> 00:35:06,340 were going all over the place, but he ain't looking at 580 00:35:06,340 --> 00:35:09,570 nothing that's there. 581 00:35:09,570 --> 00:35:12,110 It was a little strange. 582 00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:17,360 So, so far, awake and dreaming sleep look the same. 583 00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:24,020 If you think you're having trouble telling whether your 584 00:35:24,020 --> 00:35:27,460 roommate's actually asleep, here's how you can tell. 585 00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:32,220 You measure muscle tone, electromyogram. 586 00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:36,010 When you are awake, your muscles are on, right. 587 00:35:36,010 --> 00:35:36,990 You have good muscle tone. 588 00:35:36,990 --> 00:35:40,300 That's why your head doesn't fall off of your shoulders and 589 00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:43,390 I can stand upright and stuff like that. 590 00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:49,500 When you are in deep sleep, actually your 591 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:51,740 muscles remain on. 592 00:35:51,740 --> 00:35:52,980 The muscle tone remains high. 593 00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:56,020 It's when you go into REM sleep that 594 00:35:56,020 --> 00:35:58,270 you lose muscle tone. 595 00:35:58,270 --> 00:36:04,520 You can see this in your friendly neighborhood cat, 596 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,910 because all this stuff shows up widely 597 00:36:06,910 --> 00:36:08,320 in mammalian species. 598 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,390 So, your cat who's sleeping like this, that's a deeply 599 00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:16,270 sleeping cat whose muscle tone is doing just fine, thank you. 600 00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:20,740 Your cat who's sleeping like that is a cat who is in REM 601 00:36:20,740 --> 00:36:26,090 sleep and has lost muscle tone. 602 00:36:26,090 --> 00:36:32,260 Now, why would you turn the muscles off in REM sleep? 603 00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:36,920 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE PHRASE]. 604 00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:44,610 PROFESSOR: Yeah. 605 00:36:44,610 --> 00:36:48,280 If you're busy being Superman and leaping tall buildings in 606 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,900 a single bound in your dreams, it's a really good idea if you 607 00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:56,520 don't actually try that out. 608 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,350 Not only are you protecting yourself, you're protecting 609 00:37:00,350 --> 00:37:03,430 anybody else you happen to be sleeping with. 610 00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:08,770 A known sleep disorder in older men is that this 611 00:37:08,770 --> 00:37:15,600 blockade of voluntary muscles fades off, and the result -- 612 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,120 and this is a known disorder because older women bring the 613 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,710 older men to the doctor, because their husband is 614 00:37:23,710 --> 00:37:28,750 thrashing around in the middle of the night and whacking her. 615 00:37:28,750 --> 00:37:31,690 This is a real problem, people get hurt. 616 00:37:31,690 --> 00:37:35,440 So, you want the muscles to go off. 617 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,670 There are a number of corollaries here. 618 00:37:36,670 --> 00:37:41,780 It turns out that sleep walking -- 619 00:37:41,780 --> 00:37:43,370 Shakespeare has it wrong. 620 00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:47,480 Lady Macbeth is clearly dreaming about having murdered 621 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,380 Duncan and all that when she's sleep walking. 622 00:37:50,380 --> 00:37:54,180 Typically, sleep walking is not acting out your dreams. 623 00:37:54,180 --> 00:38:01,520 It is a version of non-REM sleep, and it's much more 624 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,890 typical in children than in adults. 625 00:38:04,890 --> 00:38:07,510 How many of you know that used to walk around at night when 626 00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:09,860 you were--? 627 00:38:09,860 --> 00:38:13,930 Little kids wandering around, their eyes are open, but 628 00:38:13,930 --> 00:38:15,800 nobody's home here. 629 00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:22,720 I don't actually know that much about it. 630 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:27,660 My theory is that part of what's doing this is it's your 631 00:38:27,660 --> 00:38:32,570 bladder telling you to get up and the rest of your brain's 632 00:38:32,570 --> 00:38:34,340 saying we want to stay asleep here. 633 00:38:34,340 --> 00:38:37,050 My theory is based on one of the great moments of 634 00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:44,580 child-rearing in my household, which was one of my children. 635 00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:47,840 We were awakened in the middle of the night, my wife and I, 636 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:55,390 by one of my son's yelling "No, not here!" to the other 637 00:38:55,390 --> 00:38:59,310 son who was about to use a trash can 638 00:38:59,310 --> 00:39:00,680 for the wrong purpose. 639 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,200 Anyway, it all worked out in the end. 640 00:39:11,890 --> 00:39:14,560 But this is a deep sleep phenomenon. 641 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,230 Talking in your sleep is often, apparently, 642 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:19,480 talking out of -- 643 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:30,830 you're not going to hurt yourself too much if you don't 644 00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:35,470 blockade your jaw, right? 645 00:39:35,470 --> 00:39:39,190 It's the main body muscles that are the real threat. 646 00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:43,490 So sometimes people will end up talking in their sleep, 647 00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:49,860 often to the amusement of other people in the room, or 648 00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:53,670 to the inconvenience of other people, or of your own 649 00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:56,990 relationships, if what you're talking about is somebody else 650 00:39:56,990 --> 00:40:01,270 other than the person who's currently present with you. 651 00:40:01,270 --> 00:40:04,460 Anyway, it's not clear -- 652 00:40:04,460 --> 00:40:06,630 when we get to meaning of dreams we can talk about this. 653 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:14,020 Anyway, so this is the sort of within the circadian cycle, 654 00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:19,820 this is the sort of structure you get in sleep. 655 00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:25,570 Oh, now there's much more to this than 656 00:40:25,570 --> 00:40:26,310 what I'm telling you. 657 00:40:26,310 --> 00:40:31,070 Deep sleep can be subdivided into multiple stages that 658 00:40:31,070 --> 00:40:33,680 differ in the activity of different parts of your 659 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,330 brain and so on. 660 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,755 So now between that twenty-four hour cycle and 661 00:40:45,755 --> 00:40:50,175 this ninety minute cycle, there is yet another level of 662 00:40:50,175 --> 00:40:55,040 structure to a night's sleep where there's more non-REM, 663 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,220 slow wave, deep sleep early in the night. 664 00:40:58,220 --> 00:41:02,650 If you have a consolidated bout of eight hours of sleep, 665 00:41:02,650 --> 00:41:06,300 a normal night's sleep, what you will see is more of this 666 00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:10,010 stuff early in the night and more of this stuff 667 00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:11,420 later in the night. 668 00:41:11,420 --> 00:41:14,960 This is accompanied by systematic changes in the 669 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,070 neurochemistry of the sleeping brain and so on. 670 00:41:19,070 --> 00:41:23,920 There's an intermediate level of structure to sleep also. 671 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,030 The impression one gets is of a beautifully structured 672 00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:35,160 system that is designed to do something. 673 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:40,780 So, I mean apart from the obvious, it's designed to keep 674 00:41:40,780 --> 00:41:44,160 you from feeling sleepy. 675 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:52,630 One wants to know, well, what is sleep for? 676 00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:56,150 You'd be surprised if a third of your life is spent in this 677 00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:58,570 state for no good reason. 678 00:41:58,570 --> 00:42:04,510 Oh, look at that, it says Part Two: Why do we sleep? 679 00:42:04,510 --> 00:42:08,450 It suggests that there are several possible reasons here. 680 00:42:08,450 --> 00:42:11,260 Anybody care to offer any possible 681 00:42:11,260 --> 00:42:13,670 series of why we sleep? 682 00:42:17,410 --> 00:42:18,760 Nobody's got a clue. 683 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,090 Yes? 684 00:42:20,090 --> 00:42:21,340 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 685 00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:31,340 PROFESSOR: So there's a sort of a basic rest and 686 00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:33,840 regeneration notion. 687 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,490 That you use your muscles all day, it builds up all those 688 00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:41,280 metabolic byproducts in muscles that you learned about 689 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,790 once upon a time. 690 00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:47,340 Sleep/rest will give you a chance to clear that out. 691 00:42:47,340 --> 00:42:49,860 So certainly, one possibility is it's an 692 00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:50,920 enforced rest period. 693 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,990 You could enforce rest some other way, presumably. 694 00:42:54,990 --> 00:42:58,690 Well, it could be good for you to rest, period -- just lie 695 00:42:58,690 --> 00:42:59,830 around and do nothing. 696 00:42:59,830 --> 00:43:02,030 But sleep kind of enforces that. 697 00:43:02,030 --> 00:43:03,750 Yes, there was a hand over there somewhere. 698 00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:07,130 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 699 00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:10,560 PROFESSOR: So, there's a whole class of theories, and these 700 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,520 are actually the ones where there's, I suppose, the most 701 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,550 current interest that has to do with learning and memory. 702 00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:25,090 That somehow what sleep is about is tuning up your 703 00:43:25,090 --> 00:43:29,040 memories and you're consolidating memories, 704 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,110 improving learning or something like that. 705 00:43:32,110 --> 00:43:33,670 Let's talk more about that in a minute. 706 00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:36,100 But if you're sitting there saying, I'm a real MIT 707 00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:37,850 student, I don't need to sleep. 708 00:43:37,850 --> 00:43:41,120 You might worry about theories that say sleep is vital to the 709 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,460 consolidation of memory. 710 00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:44,840 Yeah? 711 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,366 AUDIENCE: It's a lot easier to rest during the day so we 712 00:43:48,366 --> 00:43:50,130 don't need to waste all the energy [UNINTELLIGIBLE]. 713 00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:52,460 PROFESSOR: So another possibility is energy 714 00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:55,560 conservation. 715 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:02,910 You could be awake all of the time, but if you can't hunt 716 00:44:02,910 --> 00:44:11,270 when it's dark, you might as well go and power down the 717 00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:15,720 disk drive or something like that and 718 00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:16,210 not use as much energy. 719 00:44:16,210 --> 00:44:19,030 Your brain's pretty active while you're asleep, as you 720 00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:21,110 may gather from this, but the rest of you, of course, is 721 00:44:21,110 --> 00:44:23,560 getting some rest. 722 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,440 Anything else? 723 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,140 Any other good possibilities? 724 00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:36,590 Along with that energy saving one -- 725 00:44:36,590 --> 00:44:39,250 we can motivate this one related to energy saving by 726 00:44:39,250 --> 00:44:43,100 asking where do you sleep when it gets dark? 727 00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:46,330 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 728 00:44:46,330 --> 00:44:47,080 PROFESSOR: In bed. 729 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,910 That's seems like a good place. 730 00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:49,040 Where did you put your bed? 731 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,290 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 732 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,150 PROFESSOR: Anybody big on sleeping on, like putting 733 00:45:00,150 --> 00:45:02,310 their bed out on the sidewalk? 734 00:45:02,310 --> 00:45:06,890 Those of you who are hunter/gatherers, when you're 735 00:45:06,890 --> 00:45:10,770 tired you just lie down in the middle of the field? 736 00:45:10,770 --> 00:45:11,650 No. 737 00:45:11,650 --> 00:45:14,750 Because it's not really very safe. 738 00:45:14,750 --> 00:45:21,220 So another possibility is that you want to sleep for purposes 739 00:45:21,220 --> 00:45:26,490 of protecting yourself at times that are-- 740 00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:29,880 as a corollary of this you can't hunt all day thing. 741 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,470 There are other things out there that have adapted 742 00:45:33,470 --> 00:45:36,700 themselves to the niche that you are not in. 743 00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:39,970 Like take hunt at night, so if you're not going to hunt at 744 00:45:39,970 --> 00:45:43,620 night, not only do you want to be calm and quiet, you want to 745 00:45:43,620 --> 00:45:47,390 be out of the way, because otherwise oh, look, he's 746 00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:50,430 asleep, let's eat him. 747 00:45:50,430 --> 00:45:52,780 So there's a sort of a safety aspect to it. 748 00:45:52,780 --> 00:45:54,920 The other part of the safety aspect is that not only don't 749 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,020 you want to hunt at night, if you just go down wandering 750 00:45:57,020 --> 00:45:58,330 around aimlessly at night, you're going to falli in a 751 00:45:58,330 --> 00:45:59,690 hole and hurt yourself. 752 00:45:59,690 --> 00:46:04,400 So, you've got to get in the hole first and go to sleep. 753 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,250 Do I have any other brilliant theories here 754 00:46:06,250 --> 00:46:07,680 that I wanted to mention? 755 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,350 That's pretty good. 756 00:46:08,350 --> 00:46:10,510 You guys managed to do a quick survey 757 00:46:10,510 --> 00:46:14,170 of the leading theories. 758 00:46:14,170 --> 00:46:21,120 As I say, a lot of the cool, current data centers around 759 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,400 this idea of sleep having a role in learning. 760 00:46:28,660 --> 00:46:30,920 Let me tell you a little bit about that. 761 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,890 The picture that's on the handout is an illustration of 762 00:46:35,890 --> 00:46:40,010 what looks like a really trivial task. 763 00:46:40,010 --> 00:46:45,480 The question is, is there a little vertical region in that 764 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,110 display somewhere? 765 00:46:47,110 --> 00:46:51,350 The answer is well, yeah. 766 00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:59,120 Now I can make that task arbitrarily difficult by 767 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,500 flashing the stimulus very briefly and following it with 768 00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:04,510 a mask of some sort. 769 00:47:04,510 --> 00:47:08,580 So I can make it hard. 770 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:11,330 I can make it as hard as I like. 771 00:47:11,330 --> 00:47:22,670 If I do that, what I can do is measure, let's call it a 772 00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:29,270 threshold time. 773 00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:34,590 So maybe in order for you to get this task correct 70% of 774 00:47:34,590 --> 00:47:38,340 the time, I initially need to have the stimulus on for 200 775 00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:39,590 milliseconds. 776 00:47:41,950 --> 00:47:50,350 If you practice it for a while, you'll get better and 777 00:47:50,350 --> 00:47:53,030 that'll level off at some point. 778 00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:55,920 What a number of people have -- 779 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,370 well, is it Carney and Sagi I think? 780 00:47:58,370 --> 00:48:02,000 Doug Sagi is the guy I know. 781 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,565 What a number of people found, starting I think with Carney 782 00:48:04,565 --> 00:48:12,150 and Sagi, is that if you let people sleep, in particular if 783 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:15,890 they are allowed to have REM sleep, that 784 00:48:15,890 --> 00:48:17,900 performance gets -- 785 00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:19,830 well, here's let's have him sleep for eight hours here. 786 00:48:22,615 --> 00:48:28,780 That performance gets better, as if something happened while 787 00:48:28,780 --> 00:48:29,660 they were asleep. 788 00:48:29,660 --> 00:48:31,300 If they don't sleep during this period 789 00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:33,100 they don't get better. 790 00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:37,260 So it's a sleep dependent improvement in behavior. 791 00:48:37,260 --> 00:48:41,450 This is a very specific little bit of learning. 792 00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:43,460 This isn't just a general overall 793 00:48:43,460 --> 00:48:45,060 improvement in behavior. 794 00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:49,400 If you trained people with that little vertical task, 795 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,170 that you're doing a task, is that region vertical or 796 00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:53,060 horizontal, right. 797 00:48:53,060 --> 00:48:54,770 That the three thing is vertical or the three thing is 798 00:48:54,770 --> 00:48:58,160 horizontal right It's always I'm looking here and it's 799 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,880 always down and to my left. 800 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,550 I learn to be faster here. 801 00:49:04,550 --> 00:49:07,650 I don't learn to be faster here. 802 00:49:07,650 --> 00:49:11,340 The improvement in learning is specific to the little piece 803 00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:14,400 of retina that I have trained. 804 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:20,590 So it's very specific sort of learning that seems to be 805 00:49:20,590 --> 00:49:25,730 dependent on getting a decent night's sleep. 806 00:49:25,730 --> 00:49:31,880 Now, interestingly, there is evidence -- how many people 807 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,130 here are nappers? 808 00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:38,730 How many people are nappers just because it happens? 809 00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:43,810 We can do it this way. 810 00:49:43,810 --> 00:49:47,030 How many people here think that if they take a nap in the 811 00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:50,540 middle of the day, they wake up feeling better for the 812 00:49:50,540 --> 00:49:52,910 experience? 813 00:49:52,910 --> 00:49:56,900 How many people think if they have a nap they wake up 814 00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:59,180 feeling cruddy for the rest of the day? 815 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,790 There are people who find naps to be refreshing and useful, 816 00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:09,890 and there are people who find it being disruptive. 817 00:50:09,890 --> 00:50:13,000 It was certainly a big improvement in my professional 818 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,170 life when I reached the level where I had an 819 00:50:15,170 --> 00:50:18,530 office of my own. 820 00:50:18,530 --> 00:50:22,810 The biggest part of that was it made napping a great deal 821 00:50:22,810 --> 00:50:24,580 more graceful. 822 00:50:24,580 --> 00:50:27,950 After lunch I could take the latest issue of Vision 823 00:50:27,950 --> 00:50:33,990 Research and prop it up and stare at the same two 824 00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:37,320 sentences for like fifteen minutes and I feel much better 825 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,570 thereafter. 826 00:50:41,790 --> 00:50:47,270 There is evidence that a properly timed nap is just 827 00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:51,110 about as good as a night's sleep for this sort of 828 00:50:51,110 --> 00:50:52,070 perceptual learning. 829 00:50:52,070 --> 00:50:54,180 This is work done by Sara Mednick 830 00:50:54,180 --> 00:50:58,020 originally, up at Harvard. 831 00:50:58,020 --> 00:50:59,365 This is new stuff. 832 00:50:59,365 --> 00:51:04,600 We don't really quite understand fully how far we 833 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,610 can take this. 834 00:51:05,610 --> 00:51:10,470 It's the sort of thing that your average MIT student is 835 00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:13,010 tempted to take and run with, right. 836 00:51:13,010 --> 00:51:16,730 Oh man, I can get the whole benefit of eight hours of 837 00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:19,330 sleep if I just go for -- 838 00:51:19,330 --> 00:51:23,000 I think it's ninety minutes between like 2:00 or 3:00 in 839 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,530 the afternoon. 840 00:51:24,530 --> 00:51:25,840 That works. 841 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:26,740 Great. 842 00:51:26,740 --> 00:51:28,750 Now I can stay up all night. 843 00:51:28,750 --> 00:51:30,270 Anyway, we don't know that yet. 844 00:51:30,270 --> 00:51:34,580 But Mednick's study is an interesting suggestion that 845 00:51:34,580 --> 00:51:36,650 sleep during-- 846 00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:40,490 napping sleep can serve as a same sort of perceptual 847 00:51:40,490 --> 00:51:42,940 learning kind of role. 848 00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:50,280 But look, one might actually wonder whether anybody other 849 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:55,030 than vision researchers cares about whether or not you can 850 00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:59,510 find little briefly flashed lines in one corner of your 851 00:51:59,510 --> 00:52:00,800 visual field. 852 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,390 That's not what you want to know about 853 00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:03,600 learning and memory. 854 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,270 What you want to know is is anything really useful 855 00:52:06,270 --> 00:52:08,220 happening while you're asleep. 856 00:52:08,220 --> 00:52:12,350 In particular, one of the things that people want to 857 00:52:12,350 --> 00:52:18,610 know is, can you do serious thinking in your sleep? 858 00:52:18,610 --> 00:52:25,890 One thing you can't do is study in your sleep. 859 00:52:25,890 --> 00:52:28,710 There have been endless efforts because people smelled 860 00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:33,880 money at the far end of this to produce like tapes that you 861 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,130 could stick under the pillow. 862 00:52:36,130 --> 00:52:41,080 Record Gleitman and why waste precious waking 863 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,570 hours reading Gleitman? 864 00:52:43,570 --> 00:52:45,860 I'll just have somebody else read it to 865 00:52:45,860 --> 00:52:47,550 me while I'm asleep. 866 00:52:47,550 --> 00:52:51,510 Sorry, the overwhelming evidence is 867 00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:53,530 that nothing happens. 868 00:52:53,530 --> 00:52:59,650 The mild effects that are sporadically shown here come 869 00:52:59,650 --> 00:53:02,940 from periodic awakenings during the night. 870 00:53:02,940 --> 00:53:06,240 That also goes for sleeping through the lecture. 871 00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:08,840 If you're sound asleep during the lecture it's lovely that 872 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,210 you were here, but you'll have to ask somebody else what 873 00:53:12,210 --> 00:53:15,350 actually happened. 874 00:53:15,350 --> 00:53:16,620 So that doesn't work. 875 00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:22,480 But can you have insights, or can you do your problem sets 876 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,320 during your sleep in some sense? 877 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,740 How many people have had the experience of being sort of 878 00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:34,780 dead-ended on a problem, it's time to just give it up, you 879 00:53:34,780 --> 00:53:38,100 go to sleep and you wake up and somehow the answer kind of 880 00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:40,300 seems to be there? 881 00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:43,210 It's a not uncommon experienc and there are lots of 882 00:53:43,210 --> 00:53:46,870 anecdotes in the literature about this. 883 00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:52,300 One of the famous ones is the guy who first described the 884 00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:56,340 ring structure of benzene, claims that he had a dream of 885 00:53:56,340 --> 00:53:59,270 a snake biting his tail and he woke up knowing that benzene 886 00:53:59,270 --> 00:54:01,150 was a ring or something. 887 00:54:01,150 --> 00:54:02,990 It doesn't always work, by the way. 888 00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:11,070 My father spent his career as a physicist and had the same 889 00:54:11,070 --> 00:54:11,675 experience. 890 00:54:11,675 --> 00:54:14,240 He's working on a problem, not getting anywhere. 891 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:17,830 Goes to sleep, wakes up in the middle of the night, he knows 892 00:54:17,830 --> 00:54:22,150 the answer, and he knows you don't remember stuff from the 893 00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:24,660 middle of the night, so he writes it down fast and goes 894 00:54:24,660 --> 00:54:26,200 back to sleep. 895 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,840 Gets up the next morning as predicted, has no recollection 896 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,140 of what the great answer was, but he doesn't remember 897 00:54:32,140 --> 00:54:34,040 writing it down, which is good. 898 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,360 So he looks at it and he sees that the answer is, "All the 899 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:46,600 world is fused with the smell of cinnamon," which I'm sure 900 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:52,160 was an answer, but was it necessarily the answer he was 901 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,250 looking for. 902 00:54:54,250 --> 00:55:00,590 So this notion that you could actually be doing something 903 00:55:00,590 --> 00:55:07,510 productive in that sense during sleep was really in the 904 00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:12,000 realm of anecdote until this year. 905 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,840 I put the reference on the paper by this group in 906 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,070 Germany led by -- 907 00:55:18,070 --> 00:55:19,780 I suppose since he's in Germany, he must 908 00:55:19,780 --> 00:55:22,520 be Wagner et al. 909 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,940 Beautiful experiment. 910 00:55:23,940 --> 00:55:29,460 You know these number games where you get a string of 911 00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:31,210 numbers and you have to predict the next 912 00:55:31,210 --> 00:55:33,920 number in the series? 913 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,240 Well, I can't remember the particular one here, which is 914 00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:40,240 just as well because at MIT all that would happen is if I 915 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,160 presented it, you'd be sitting there for the rest of the 916 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,790 lecture trying to work out what's the rule here. 917 00:55:44,790 --> 00:55:47,650 Anyway, it's a clever -- go look at the paper. 918 00:55:47,650 --> 00:55:50,440 It's a beautiful paper. 919 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,750 But they picked one of these things where there were two 920 00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:55,240 ways to solve it. 921 00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:59,150 There is a sort of a laborious multi-step thing. 922 00:55:59,150 --> 00:56:03,160 You add the last two numbers and then divide by the third 923 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,150 fac number. 924 00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:05,050 It's some weird thing. 925 00:56:05,050 --> 00:56:08,570 You can do it, but it takes a long time. 926 00:56:08,570 --> 00:56:13,990 So, if you measure the amount of time for -- 927 00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:17,000 so this is going to be time again. 928 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,250 Measure the amount of time to get the answer. 929 00:56:21,250 --> 00:56:25,520 People are initially very long and then they get better and 930 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,540 to get to some sort of stable. 931 00:56:27,540 --> 00:56:30,340 But there's a trick. 932 00:56:30,340 --> 00:56:34,630 If you have this flash of insight, you realize I don't 933 00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:37,190 remember what, but there's some trivial way of knowing 934 00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:42,080 what the number is, and if you get it, it's trivial to see in 935 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,720 the data because your time drops like a rock 936 00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:48,710 and it stays there. 937 00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:51,740 So now what you do is you take people, you 938 00:56:51,740 --> 00:56:53,870 train them on this. 939 00:56:53,870 --> 00:57:01,000 They're at this the high asymptote here, and 940 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,690 you send them away. 941 00:57:02,690 --> 00:57:07,850 You either send them away for eight hours of daytime stuff 942 00:57:07,850 --> 00:57:10,670 -- come back tonight we'll test you again. 943 00:57:10,670 --> 00:57:12,570 You send them away -- 944 00:57:12,570 --> 00:57:14,170 I don't remember, do they actually keep them in the lab? 945 00:57:14,170 --> 00:57:16,480 You can keep them in the lab and keep them awake. 946 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,610 Anyway, you send them away at night because you want to make 947 00:57:18,610 --> 00:57:20,690 sure that it's not a day/night thing, but 948 00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:21,860 don't let them sleep. 949 00:57:21,860 --> 00:57:26,780 Or you have people who go to sleep and have eight hours 950 00:57:26,780 --> 00:57:28,500 worth of sleep. 951 00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:33,200 The finding is that the next day -- 952 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,900 eight hours later rather -- 953 00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:42,940 some people are here, some people are here or rapidly get 954 00:57:42,940 --> 00:57:48,280 here, and 50% more of the people who had a 955 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,000 night's sleep got here. 956 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,620 It's not that everybody went to sleep and had this kaboom 957 00:57:53,620 --> 00:57:54,900 of insight. 958 00:57:54,900 --> 00:58:02,570 But seemingly something about that night sleep produced this 959 00:58:02,570 --> 00:58:10,165 rapid burst of insight in many more people in the sleep group 960 00:58:10,165 --> 00:58:13,240 than in the two other groups. 961 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,250 It's I think the first really good evidence, experimental 962 00:58:17,250 --> 00:58:28,590 evidence, for an ability to get something more like higher 963 00:58:28,590 --> 00:58:32,680 level cognitive thought happening while you're asleep, 964 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,990 Not just these relatively low level perceptual learning 965 00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:37,200 kinds of things. 966 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:44,240 So, the general evidence suggests that sleep has an 967 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:50,980 important role to play in managing your cognitive light 968 00:58:50,980 --> 00:58:52,420 in some fashion. 969 00:58:52,420 --> 00:58:56,080 It probably serves a role in consolidating memory. 970 00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:02,950 It probably serves a role in problem solving. 971 00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:06,610 It certainly is the sort of thing that one might think 972 00:59:06,610 --> 00:59:10,740 about as one is saying I'm going to stay up all night 973 00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:15,420 reading Gleitman because tomorrow's the final exam. 974 00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:17,960 Well, if you haven't read Gleitman before the final exam 975 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,190 it's probably true that reading Gleitman all night is 976 00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:24,100 better than hoping that eight hours of sleep will produce a 977 00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:27,170 flash of insight about the imagined contents of Gleitman. 978 00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:35,320 All right, let us discuss -- 979 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,170 I'm supposed to tell you what's going to happen when 980 00:59:37,170 --> 00:59:41,060 you're sleep deprived I see, but let's do that in a minute 981 00:59:41,060 --> 00:59:46,190 after you wake up the person next to you who's dozed off. 982 00:59:46,190 --> 00:59:47,430 Because they want to hear this piece. 983 00:59:47,430 --> 01:03:05,620 [INTERMISSION IN LECTURE] 984 01:03:05,620 --> 01:03:05,970 All right. 985 01:03:05,970 --> 01:03:10,730 So what happens to you, you were clearly built to sleep. 986 01:03:10,730 --> 01:03:16,015 What happens if you abuse the privilege and you're running a 987 01:03:16,015 --> 01:03:17,450 sleep debt? 988 01:03:17,450 --> 01:03:22,640 And the answer is most people here, in fact, most people in 989 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,990 America are running some sort of a sleep debt. 990 01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:30,610 What is the cost? 991 01:03:30,610 --> 01:03:35,870 Well, you can measure cost in a variety of different ways. 992 01:03:35,870 --> 01:03:45,260 You can certainly measure cost in terms of things like 993 01:03:45,260 --> 01:03:48,090 industrial accidents, car crashes and stuff like that. 994 01:03:48,090 --> 01:03:55,840 The classic sleep deprivation car crash is a crash on a 995 01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,860 clear straight road on a moonlit night -- 996 01:04:00,860 --> 01:04:03,290 you're a nice long distance trucker who's abusing the 997 01:04:03,290 --> 01:04:04,670 rules about how long you're supposed to be 998 01:04:04,670 --> 01:04:06,810 able to drive at once. 999 01:04:06,810 --> 01:04:09,720 You're out, there's no car in the vicinity, the road is 1000 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,550 straight, it's not bright light, but you can see 1001 01:04:13,550 --> 01:04:14,040 everything. 1002 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,500 The road turns a few degrees and you go straight out into 1003 01:04:17,500 --> 01:04:19,470 the cactus or something like that. 1004 01:04:19,470 --> 01:04:23,990 Because when you get really sleepy, if you take a look at 1005 01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:26,260 people's brain waves, you can watch them flipping into these 1006 01:04:26,260 --> 01:04:31,080 little micro sleeps that don't necessarily last very long, 1007 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,217 but at sixty miles an hour, eighty miles an hour, ninety 1008 01:04:34,217 --> 01:04:36,600 miles an hour, they don't need to last very long for you to 1009 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:41,060 end up in sage brush. 1010 01:04:41,060 --> 01:04:44,480 There are plenty of ways to measure it in the lab too. 1011 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:51,630 If you sit somebody in the lab and tell them all I want you 1012 01:04:51,630 --> 01:04:58,290 to do is push a button when I turn on this little light. 1013 01:04:58,290 --> 01:05:00,700 The only thing you need to do. 1014 01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:05,380 What you discover is that people are about 200 1015 01:05:05,380 --> 01:05:11,020 milliseconds slower at adverse circadian phase, at the bottom 1016 01:05:11,020 --> 01:05:17,490 of that circadian trough than they are at the top of it. 1017 01:05:17,490 --> 01:05:19,700 And on top that just general slowing. 1018 01:05:19,700 --> 01:05:21,620 There are also a whole bunch of times when they'll just 1019 01:05:21,620 --> 01:05:23,610 miss the light altogether. 1020 01:05:23,610 --> 01:05:31,460 The light will come on and the subject will be just ah and 1021 01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:32,540 not do anything about it. 1022 01:05:32,540 --> 01:05:37,620 Now, 200 milliseconds, what's the big deal there? 1023 01:05:37,620 --> 01:05:39,160 It's only a fifth of a second. 1024 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,860 Well, again, at ninety miles an hour it makes a difference 1025 01:05:42,860 --> 01:05:47,240 and if you're flying your supersonic jet around the 1026 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,410 skies of Iraq or something it makes even more of a 1027 01:05:49,410 --> 01:05:50,280 difference. 1028 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,350 So there's a generalized slowing. 1029 01:05:54,350 --> 01:06:02,590 There is a tendency to trade-off speed and accuracy 1030 01:06:02,590 --> 01:06:06,020 more than usual in favor of speed. 1031 01:06:06,020 --> 01:06:10,480 So people tend, when they're sleepy -- 1032 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,780 we've actually done this in our lab. 1033 01:06:12,780 --> 01:06:15,020 So if you're doing one of these visual search kinds of 1034 01:06:15,020 --> 01:06:17,160 things where you're looking for something exciting like 1035 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:22,600 where's the red vertical line, people, if you go too fast you 1036 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:23,700 make mistakes. 1037 01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:27,000 People when they're sleepy tend to be willing to tolerate 1038 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,930 higher error rates. 1039 01:06:28,930 --> 01:06:32,100 Again, that's the sort of thing that is brought out into 1040 01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:37,130 the real world if your error rate goes up by two or three 1041 01:06:37,130 --> 01:06:39,960 times, that could be a real problem in 1042 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,300 doing real world tasks. 1043 01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:46,110 It is harder to prove but pretty clear, perhaps 1044 01:06:46,110 --> 01:06:51,500 introspectively, that being sleepy makes you stupid. 1045 01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:54,960 You just don't think as well. 1046 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,960 For a long time it was kind of hard to show any effects of 1047 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,580 sleep deprivation because people tended to do things 1048 01:07:00,580 --> 01:07:05,110 like ask you to add up columns of numbers, and as long as I 1049 01:07:05,110 --> 01:07:07,840 smack you around enough to keep you awake during the 1050 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,600 task, you can do that. 1051 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,280 But if I ask you to do, I don't know, your problem set 1052 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,540 when you're really sleepy, it turns out that the throughput 1053 01:07:17,540 --> 01:07:23,790 on more complicated cognitive tasks goes downhill. 1054 01:07:23,790 --> 01:07:25,160 You're just not as good at it. 1055 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,070 Will it kill you? 1056 01:07:28,070 --> 01:07:29,530 How bad can it be? 1057 01:07:29,530 --> 01:07:32,810 The answer is probably yes. 1058 01:07:32,810 --> 01:07:38,460 Not obviously at the level that people inflict on 1059 01:07:38,460 --> 01:07:42,090 themselves, but prolonged sleep deprivation will kill 1060 01:07:42,090 --> 01:07:45,760 you if you are a rat, at least. 1061 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,430 What kills you is not that you just get so sleepy that you 1062 01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:55,870 fall over dead, but that staying awake, or more to the 1063 01:07:55,870 --> 01:08:00,320 point being kept awake, which is what's required if you're 1064 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,720 going to go any extended period of sleep deprivation, 1065 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:08,400 is highly stressful, and stress will kill you. 1066 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,090 The rats who die in sleep deprivation studies die of 1067 01:08:12,090 --> 01:08:16,050 things like bleeding ulcers and stuff like that. 1068 01:08:16,050 --> 01:08:21,850 Symptoms that look for all the world like the effects of 1069 01:08:21,850 --> 01:08:24,880 severe stress. 1070 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:29,740 You can also ask whether or not deprivation of particular 1071 01:08:29,740 --> 01:08:34,980 kinds of sleep is particularly damaging. 1072 01:08:34,980 --> 01:08:39,570 So, for example, it's relatively easy to deprive 1073 01:08:39,570 --> 01:08:41,610 somebody of REM sleep. 1074 01:08:41,610 --> 01:08:47,040 You can just monitor their eye movements or their brain waves 1075 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:51,200 and wake them up every time they go into REM sleep. 1076 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:56,290 They will sleep for most of the night that way, but 1077 01:08:56,290 --> 01:08:58,200 they'll have little or no REM. 1078 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,160 You do get effects of that on these perceptual 1079 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,020 learning tasks -- 1080 01:09:02,020 --> 01:09:05,600 REM seems to be important in that. 1081 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,960 But you can be REM deprived for an extended period of time 1082 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:14,280 without collapsing in a heap. 1083 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:15,700 There are two reasons we know that. 1084 01:09:15,700 --> 01:09:17,320 One of them is that people have done 1085 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,000 experimental studies of this. 1086 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,010 The other is that one class of antidepressants known as 1087 01:09:21,010 --> 01:09:29,330 Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors, MAOIs, systematically suppress 1088 01:09:29,330 --> 01:09:34,770 REM sleep, and these patients report that they don't dream. 1089 01:09:34,770 --> 01:09:37,545 But they don't have obvious evil side effects. 1090 01:09:37,545 --> 01:09:39,470 We don't quite understand how that 1091 01:09:39,470 --> 01:09:41,200 relates to these theories. 1092 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,890 People on these things don't say oh my goodness, I can't 1093 01:09:43,890 --> 01:09:44,476 learn anymore. 1094 01:09:44,476 --> 01:09:47,036 So there's something we don't understand about the 1095 01:09:47,036 --> 01:09:50,660 relationship between REM and learning there, because 1096 01:09:50,660 --> 01:09:52,820 otherwise these antidepressants would have a 1097 01:09:52,820 --> 01:09:54,930 powerful side effect, cognitive side effect 1098 01:09:54,930 --> 01:09:56,260 that we don't see. 1099 01:09:56,260 --> 01:10:00,920 The other way to do this in animal studies is to keep an 1100 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,240 animal REM deprived for a month at a time and see if the 1101 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:10,270 animal show these sort of stress symptoms, and the 1102 01:10:10,270 --> 01:10:13,010 answer seems to be, well, no, not really. 1103 01:10:13,010 --> 01:10:17,490 If you get sleep, even without REM sleep, the stress part can 1104 01:10:17,490 --> 01:10:18,480 not be there. 1105 01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:23,840 Oh, my favorite technique for REM depriving a cat in this 1106 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,280 case, this is a low REM -- if you want to REM deprive your 1107 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,650 cat, here's how you do it. 1108 01:10:29,650 --> 01:10:33,980 You put the cat -- take a flower pot, turn the flower 1109 01:10:33,980 --> 01:10:37,000 pot upside-down, put the cat on the flower pot in the 1110 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,870 middle of a little artificial lake. 1111 01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:45,540 Eventually the cat goes to sleep, right. 1112 01:10:45,540 --> 01:10:49,760 Then the cat falls into REM sleep. 1113 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,920 Falls off into the water. 1114 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,850 Cat doesn't like to fall into the water. 1115 01:10:54,850 --> 01:10:57,660 Cat wakes up. 1116 01:10:57,660 --> 01:11:05,250 And the cats learns the not go into REM sleep. 1117 01:11:05,250 --> 01:11:09,200 In some sense, trains itself not to fall into REM sleep, 1118 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,290 with the result that you can REM deprive the cat for an 1119 01:11:12,290 --> 01:11:14,020 extended period of time. 1120 01:11:14,020 --> 01:11:15,730 This is a very weird study. 1121 01:11:15,730 --> 01:11:18,130 I don't where they got their measures. 1122 01:11:18,130 --> 01:11:20,810 The only thing I can remember that the only thing they found 1123 01:11:20,810 --> 01:11:25,290 that was unusual about this cat is that a normal cat, you 1124 01:11:25,290 --> 01:11:29,720 got the cat food, if you put a July the 4th kind of sparkler 1125 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:34,420 in the cat food, a normal cat will not eat the the cat food, 1126 01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:36,240 but a REM deprived cat will. 1127 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,300 Why? 1128 01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:39,940 I don't know. 1129 01:11:39,940 --> 01:11:41,910 I don't know nothing about this. 1130 01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:46,650 I only know what I read in the literature. 1131 01:11:46,650 --> 01:11:49,600 Which reminds me, however -- actually, this should have 1132 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,820 reminded me. 1133 01:11:51,820 --> 01:11:54,065 That the most practical piece of advice, apart from the fact 1134 01:11:54,065 --> 01:11:57,650 you should get eight hours of sleep at night. 1135 01:11:57,650 --> 01:12:00,630 Since you won't get eight hours of sleep a night, I 1136 01:12:00,630 --> 01:12:03,460 notice, I've been lecturing to this course for twenty plus 1137 01:12:03,460 --> 01:12:10,020 years, and in spite of my exortations that your physical 1138 01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:13,210 and cognitive well-being really relies on you going to 1139 01:12:13,210 --> 01:12:15,010 sleep at night, none of you are going to pay the slightest 1140 01:12:15,010 --> 01:12:16,260 bit of attention to that. 1141 01:12:16,260 --> 01:12:19,190 So the more practical piece of advice I can give you is how 1142 01:12:19,190 --> 01:12:20,440 to sleep in class. 1143 01:12:22,730 --> 01:12:23,970 The trick is -- 1144 01:12:23,970 --> 01:12:28,450 I mean obviously what you want to do is you want to sleep in 1145 01:12:28,450 --> 01:12:33,790 a way that kind of masks that fact. 1146 01:12:33,790 --> 01:12:36,430 The difficulty is this REM sleep business. 1147 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:47,600 The problem is the muscle tone thing and it's the head bob 1148 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:48,850 portion of the-- 1149 01:12:53,310 --> 01:13:01,370 So I can look out there and watch the whiplash and that's 1150 01:13:01,370 --> 01:13:03,640 not going to work. 1151 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:09,730 So, what people figure out on their own is that what you 1152 01:13:09,730 --> 01:13:14,190 want to do is you want to give the illusion that what I or 1153 01:13:14,190 --> 01:13:19,628 somebody else is saying is so deep that you had to close 1154 01:13:19,628 --> 01:13:21,820 your eyes to think about it. 1155 01:13:21,820 --> 01:13:25,800 Now, there are a couple of important principles here. 1156 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:32,050 One of them is that it's less convincing that you're 1157 01:13:32,050 --> 01:13:37,290 thinking deeply about this if your mouth falls open. 1158 01:13:37,290 --> 01:13:41,170 If you're drooling it's really bad. 1159 01:13:41,170 --> 01:13:45,830 This is good. 1160 01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:47,960 Support for the chin is good. 1161 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:53,010 The other thing that you learned in like 801 was that 1162 01:13:53,010 --> 01:13:54,920 three-legged stools stand better than 1163 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,920 two-legged ones, right? 1164 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,170 So, I favor these. 1165 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:06,180 I'm really thinking very hard about what you're saying. 1166 01:14:06,180 --> 01:14:07,560 That can actually be quite -- in fact, 1167 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:08,950 you're not fooling anybody. 1168 01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:11,640 You know perfectly well you're sound asleep. 1169 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:12,020 What? 1170 01:14:12,020 --> 01:14:14,250 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1171 01:14:14,250 --> 01:14:16,000 PROFESSOR: Oh, keeping the airway open is good. 1172 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:22,830 That was the winner of the most embarrassing moment in 1173 01:14:22,830 --> 01:14:27,470 Intro Psych Student Experience. 1174 01:14:27,470 --> 01:14:29,900 This was actually the first year I was 1175 01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:30,240 teaching the course. 1176 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:35,923 I was co-teaching it with another guy in course nine at 1177 01:14:35,923 --> 01:14:39,050 the time and he was lecturing. 1178 01:14:39,050 --> 01:14:41,400 I've long ago stopped figuring that this was an editorial 1179 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,640 comment when people fall asleep. 1180 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,170 But anyway, somebody sitting right about over there fell 1181 01:14:46,170 --> 01:14:48,200 sound asleep. 1182 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,370 But nobody was sitting next to them. 1183 01:14:52,370 --> 01:14:56,400 They fell sound asleep and they started to snore. 1184 01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:02,880 Eventually this got like loud enough that my colleague had 1185 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,560 to say somebody's going. 1186 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,620 If you want the definition of embarrassed -- the definition 1187 01:15:07,620 --> 01:15:09,540 of embarrassed is you're sitting in lecture, 1188 01:15:09,540 --> 01:15:18,680 everybody's looking at you and you have no idea why. 1189 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,105 So, sitting next to somebody's another good strategy if 1190 01:15:21,105 --> 01:15:22,980 you're actually trying to stay more or less alert. 1191 01:15:22,980 --> 01:15:28,860 My old doctoral advisor and I had this as a pact when I was 1192 01:15:28,860 --> 01:15:32,270 in graduate school during the Friday afternoon, terrible 1193 01:15:32,270 --> 01:15:34,440 time, departmental colloquia. 1194 01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:37,730 We would sit next to each other and if it was actually 1195 01:15:37,730 --> 01:15:41,650 talk that we cared about, we had an agreement, if I go out, 1196 01:15:41,650 --> 01:15:43,550 poke me, because I kind of want to know what this guy is 1197 01:15:43,550 --> 01:15:44,800 talking about. 1198 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,100 He was department chair. 1199 01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:48,960 Turns out to be very important, because one of the 1200 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,920 rules of you're department chair is you have to be able 1201 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,650 to ask an intelligent question at the end of the talk. 1202 01:15:55,650 --> 01:15:57,900 Really good department chairs can do that after sleeping 1203 01:15:57,900 --> 01:15:59,670 through the talk. 1204 01:15:59,670 --> 01:16:03,430 My advisor, who was otherwise an exemplary department chair, 1205 01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:08,980 was caught up short on this at one talk where he asked a very 1206 01:16:08,980 --> 01:16:11,910 good question, but one that he wouldn't have asked had he 1207 01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:14,950 been awake for those twenty minutes of the talk. 1208 01:16:14,950 --> 01:16:17,620 Because the guy had discussed this matter extensively. 1209 01:16:17,620 --> 01:16:21,260 So if we would poke each other to stay awake. 1210 01:16:21,260 --> 01:16:25,770 The guy joined our lab and he sat two seats away from me. 1211 01:16:25,770 --> 01:16:27,430 He went out cold. 1212 01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:29,350 That's OK. 1213 01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:30,450 But he started shouting. 1214 01:16:30,450 --> 01:16:35,620 In Japanese. 1215 01:16:35,620 --> 01:16:37,430 Actually, it was probably a bonus that it was in Japanese 1216 01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:39,560 because whatever he was shouting was incomprehensible 1217 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,180 to anybody else. 1218 01:16:42,180 --> 01:16:46,280 I made this sort of dramatic lunge to get to him before he 1219 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,830 could manage to get out too much. 1220 01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:56,140 So now if you're worried about that, you kind of want to be 1221 01:16:56,140 --> 01:16:59,860 sitting with your friends here so that when you start talking 1222 01:16:59,860 --> 01:17:03,300 in your sleep, somebody can get to you before it becomes 1223 01:17:03,300 --> 01:17:05,840 really desperately obvious. 1224 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:06,820 All right. 1225 01:17:06,820 --> 01:17:13,020 I suppose the bottom line is that sleep deprivation will 1226 01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:18,870 not kill you, but it won't do anything good for you, except 1227 01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:21,060 perhaps getting you through the your work. 1228 01:17:21,060 --> 01:17:28,080 Now, let's see do I want to -- you know this looks like a 1229 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:33,950 pretty good place to entertain questions and we'll go on to 1230 01:17:33,950 --> 01:17:36,360 dreaming after Thanksgiving. 1231 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,360 Any sleep questions while we're here? 1232 01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:44,790 We got a question, then you can run for it. 1233 01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:46,040 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1234 01:17:52,580 --> 01:17:56,480 PROFESSOR: Well, the piece of that is right -- so the 1235 01:17:56,480 --> 01:17:58,840 question is do you want to sleeps in 1236 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,310 cycles of ninety minutes? 1237 01:18:00,310 --> 01:18:02,890 Ideally, you want to wake up on your own. 1238 01:18:02,890 --> 01:18:06,640 Typically out of the end of a REM stage is what would 1239 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,150 normally happen. 1240 01:18:09,150 --> 01:18:11,460 Yes, you will tend to feel more refreshed there than if 1241 01:18:11,460 --> 01:18:13,680 you wake up out of this. 1242 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:18,580 But most of us wake up when the alarm clock 1243 01:18:18,580 --> 01:18:20,110 goes off and sorry. 1244 01:18:20,110 --> 01:18:23,450 But if you can manage to adjust that to wake you up -- 1245 01:18:23,450 --> 01:18:25,390 even if you have to move it a little earlier, you may feel 1246 01:18:25,390 --> 01:18:26,660 better if you're waking yourself up 1247 01:18:26,660 --> 01:18:29,380 out of a REM state. 1248 01:18:29,380 --> 01:18:30,630 Yup? 1249 01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:35,760 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1250 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,130 PROFESSOR: Oh, that's the neck floppy thing. 1251 01:18:39,130 --> 01:18:43,150 When your muscles are going, when you're losing muscle tone 1252 01:18:43,150 --> 01:18:48,270 and drifting off into a REM state, bits of you are kind of 1253 01:18:48,270 --> 01:18:52,030 going where gravity wants to go and that can feel like a 1254 01:18:52,030 --> 01:18:55,000 falling sensation, which inconveniently can sometimes 1255 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,744 lurch you back awake, or conveniently if you happen to 1256 01:18:57,744 --> 01:19:00,520 be going out during class. 1257 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,960 But I think that's typically an effect of the 1258 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,400 losing muscle tone part. 1259 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:09,910 Last chance, here we go. 1260 01:19:09,910 --> 01:19:11,160 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1261 01:19:16,010 --> 01:19:17,750 PROFESSOR: Oh, if you really live in really, really 1262 01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:21,070 northern -- sleep disorders go up as latitude 1263 01:19:21,070 --> 01:19:23,330 goes up or way down. 1264 01:19:23,330 --> 01:19:27,370 But as long as you're living someplace where the sun comes 1265 01:19:27,370 --> 01:19:29,690 up every day, that's not an issue. 1266 01:19:29,690 --> 01:19:32,600 But yes, absolutely, if you go and live someplace where it's 1267 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:37,160 dark for six months of the year, people have disruptions 1268 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:41,570 of their circadian clock and they start free-running. 1269 01:19:41,570 --> 01:19:42,780 All right. 1270 01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:43,940 Drive carefully. 1271 01:19:43,940 --> 01:19:45,630 Have a good vacation.