1 00:00:05,115 --> 00:00:07,365 JOHN ESSIGMANN: I work in the field of genetic change. 2 00:00:10,290 --> 00:00:13,200 In a perfect world, you would say, 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,420 guanine would always pair with cytosine 4 00:00:15,420 --> 00:00:18,180 and adenine would always pair with thymine. 5 00:00:18,180 --> 00:00:22,920 It turns out, however, that sometimes chemicals 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,930 from the environment can react with our normal nucleotides 7 00:00:27,930 --> 00:00:30,330 and change their coding characteristics so 8 00:00:30,330 --> 00:00:34,150 that mistakes are made when polymerases try to read them. 9 00:00:34,150 --> 00:00:36,690 These are mutations, and mutations 10 00:00:36,690 --> 00:00:38,860 cause genetic diseases. 11 00:00:38,860 --> 00:00:42,960 My role in the field of toxicology 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,620 is as a person, who is both a biologist and a chemist, 13 00:00:46,620 --> 00:00:52,290 who studies how chemical damage to our informational molecules 14 00:00:52,290 --> 00:00:54,870 is converted into changes in coding 15 00:00:54,870 --> 00:00:58,164 that results in genetic change. 16 00:00:58,164 --> 00:00:59,580 I'll emphasize, of course, this is 17 00:00:59,580 --> 00:01:02,700 the basis for all genetic disease, 18 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:05,220 but it's also the basis for evolution. 19 00:01:05,220 --> 00:01:09,660 In other words, mutations happen naturally. 20 00:01:09,660 --> 00:01:14,770 That means that we're not all-- we don't all look alike. 21 00:01:14,770 --> 00:01:16,950 And that means there's diversity in a population, 22 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:18,900 and that's because of mutations. 23 00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:20,970 And evolution is a really good thing, 24 00:01:20,970 --> 00:01:24,090 because if we were all alike when the environment changed, 25 00:01:24,090 --> 00:01:27,960 then the chance of extinction might be very high. 26 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:30,660 If there's diversity in a population, 27 00:01:30,660 --> 00:01:34,440 that's actually a hedge that life uses in order 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,230 to be able to make sure something's going to survive, 29 00:01:37,230 --> 00:01:39,480 because some members in the population, 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,160 while they may be considered quote 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,530 unquote "weaker" in the initial environment, when 32 00:01:44,530 --> 00:01:45,749 the environment changes-- 33 00:01:45,749 --> 00:01:47,790 they're the ones, for example, with hair on them, 34 00:01:47,790 --> 00:01:50,610 and survive the global winter that happens 35 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:52,440 after the meteor strikes. 36 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,830 So, we are interested in chemical modification 37 00:01:55,830 --> 00:02:00,420 of DNA and RNA as it relates to the causation of disease, 38 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:03,870 but we're also interested in the rates 39 00:02:03,870 --> 00:02:07,260 at which genetic change happens in a population, 40 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:09,840 and how that's a good thing, and that it provides 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,010 for the continuance of life. 42 00:02:12,010 --> 00:02:13,800 One example of our work in evolution 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,870 comes from recent work that we've been doing on HIV. 44 00:02:18,870 --> 00:02:22,200 When a virus infects one of our cells, 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:27,600 our cells respond by trying to limit the growth of the virus. 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,100 They try to kill it. 47 00:02:29,100 --> 00:02:31,530 And one of the strategies that used 48 00:02:31,530 --> 00:02:34,080 by what's called our innate immune system 49 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,450 is to induce a number of enzymes that start 50 00:02:39,450 --> 00:02:41,850 to rip apart the DNA bases. 51 00:02:41,850 --> 00:02:44,520 They really take the amino groups off 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,460 of cytosines and adenines in order 53 00:02:47,460 --> 00:02:50,790 to try to convert them into non-coding nucleotides 54 00:02:50,790 --> 00:02:52,800 or miscoding nucleotides. 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,082 What happens is, if you take a cytosine 56 00:02:55,082 --> 00:02:56,540 and you take away it's amino group, 57 00:02:56,540 --> 00:02:59,400 it makes it into a uracil, and then, rather than 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,580 pair with a guanine, it'll pair with an adenine. 59 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:04,680 Because these are enzymes that kind of move 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,040 along the viral genome, they create a huge number 61 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,720 of mutations. 62 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,030 The process is called lethal mutagenesis, 63 00:03:12,030 --> 00:03:14,430 because what happens is, eventually 64 00:03:14,430 --> 00:03:16,890 the number of mutations is so large that you 65 00:03:16,890 --> 00:03:18,810 can no longer produce a functional 66 00:03:18,810 --> 00:03:21,450 protein or nucleic acid. 67 00:03:21,450 --> 00:03:24,560 That's a natural strategy that we use. 68 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,460 And thinking about this, some years ago, 69 00:03:27,460 --> 00:03:29,160 given my lab's expertise in knowing 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:35,430 about the structural modification of normal bases 71 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:37,770 that makes them mutagenic, we wondered 72 00:03:37,770 --> 00:03:42,150 if we could contaminate the nucleotide pool of a cell 73 00:03:42,150 --> 00:03:46,500 with mutagenic nucleotides that would force a virus 74 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:50,050 to mutate even quicker. 75 00:03:50,050 --> 00:03:56,560 HIV, it turns out, almost goes extinct, but not quite. 76 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,340 In other words, our innate immune system, in one day, 77 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:04,360 creates every single point mutation in the virus, 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,760 but it also creates every single drug-resistant variant. 79 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,020 And it just doesn't push hard enough 80 00:04:11,020 --> 00:04:13,730 to be able to push the virus to extinction. 81 00:04:13,730 --> 00:04:16,570 So, we wondered whether-- if we could push a little harder 82 00:04:16,570 --> 00:04:20,050 by using creatively designed molecules-- 83 00:04:20,050 --> 00:04:24,790 derivatives of cytosine, that would pretend sometimes 84 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:27,530 they're a cytosine and sometimes they pretended that they were 85 00:04:27,530 --> 00:04:28,600 a thymine-- 86 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,520 that we could push the virus over the top. 87 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,200 And we found that it did work, OK. 88 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,210 In other words, we were able to push the virus 89 00:04:34,210 --> 00:04:36,790 to a technical state of extinction using 90 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:40,000 our understanding of the chemistry of the molecules 91 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,640 that the cell has the capability to use in replication. 92 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,090 It may seem unwise to intentionally put 93 00:04:49,090 --> 00:04:52,750 mutagenic chemicals into people, and, obviously, 94 00:04:52,750 --> 00:04:57,520 we worked out a strategy to prevent mutations in people 95 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,760 in the drug design process. 96 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,210 Specifically, it turns out there are pathways 97 00:05:04,210 --> 00:05:07,210 called DNA repair pathways that repair 98 00:05:07,210 --> 00:05:11,235 damage in our nuclear genomes, and they happen in the nucleus. 99 00:05:11,235 --> 00:05:13,570 That's where the enzymes are located. 100 00:05:13,570 --> 00:05:18,820 It turns out that the early stage in HIV replication 101 00:05:18,820 --> 00:05:21,580 involved replication in the cytoplasm. 102 00:05:21,580 --> 00:05:24,380 There are no repair enzymes in the cytoplasm. 103 00:05:24,380 --> 00:05:28,840 So, the virus has no defense against the mutagenic affects 104 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:30,730 of these compounds. 105 00:05:30,730 --> 00:05:32,410 We picked compounds that, if they 106 00:05:32,410 --> 00:05:35,560 were to get into our nuclei-- 107 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,660 it turns out that our polymerases don't like them 108 00:05:37,660 --> 00:05:39,520 very much, anyway, but if they did get in, 109 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,500 they're very rapidly repaired. 110 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:44,830 So, it creates what we call a therapeutic index which 111 00:05:44,830 --> 00:05:49,600 is very favorable in favor of killing the virus 112 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,310 but not putting mutagenic chemicals into us.