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PROFESSOR: All right.

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So I am really happy to
say that we've got SWERY.

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Do you go with SWERY or Swery65?

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SWERY: SWERY please.

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PROFESSOR: SWERY.

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Swery65's Twitter.

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Your Twitter account.

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SWERY: Yes.

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INTERPRETER: So a developer.

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He's visiting us from Japan,
visiting for the Video Game

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Orchestra, which Shota-- is
he in the room right now?

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SHOTA: I'm here.

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PROFESSOR: There he is-- is
organizing that orchestra.

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They're playing tomorrow.

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That's right?

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Yeah.

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So we sent you
the code for that.

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So please, if you're
interested in attending,

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please do attend that.

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It'll be really fun.

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They'll be playing some of
the music from SWERY's most

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recent game.

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SWERY's from Access Games?

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SWERY: Yes.

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PROFESSOR: And previous
games he's made

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include Spy Fiction,
Deadly Premonition,

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and the Deadly Premonition
director's cut.

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And a few others.

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SWERY: To Japan.

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Ace Combat.

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Or [? Ganda. ?] Something.

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PROFESSOR: So from Namco Bandai.

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Those were Namco games.

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Yeah.

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So he's made a bunch of
different types of games.

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We really like, at
the lab, we really

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enjoy the Deadly
Premoniton game.

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It's a great open-world
simulation game

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that it plays a lot
differently than if you're used

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to the normal Grand Theft Auto.

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So if you haven't played
that, Deadly Premonition,

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he'll be talking about
some of those games today.

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But definitely
check out YouTube,

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and check out playing that.

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We have it at the lab.

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So if you'd like to use the
lab and play that game at all,

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you're more than welcome to.

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They're going to also be
demonstrating their most

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recent game on the Kinect once
we get our tech issues fixed.

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So we'll start with lecture.

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We'll have some Q&A
at the end of that,

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and hopefully
we'll have a chance

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to play their latest game.

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So I'm going to give you this.

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INTERPRETER: You can
just clip it anywhere?

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PROFESSOR: Yeah, just clip
it like-- near the top

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of your-- yeah.

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INTERPRETER: OK.

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PROFESSOR: And feel
free to hold it

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if you don't have
anywhere else to put it

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INTERPRETER: OK.

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SWERY: Hi.

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Nice to meet you guys.

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I can't speak English well.

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Sorry.

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I need a translator.

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INTERPRETER: Hi.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: I'll be
speaking in Japanese.

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So I will translate.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: As the teacher
has said, that he makes games.

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So in order to
accommodate everyone

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who might not know
the games, we've

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presented this
picture over here.

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Can you hear me OK?

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Is this good?

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: These
are all the games

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that he's worked on previously.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: You're familiar
with these games, here?

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You know, some were only
released in Japanese market,

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also.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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[APPLAUSE]

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INTERPRETER: We've been making
games for about 20 years, just

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like these games up here.

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And today, we'd like to talk
about the very newest game

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using the Xbox Kinect
in the front there.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So
this is basically

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the structure of today.

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We want to start
with a small lecture.

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If we can get the video going--

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PROFESSOR: They're here
to set that up right now.

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INTERPRETER: Yay!

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We can play it, and then
have a short Q&A at the end.

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SWERY: Yep.

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[SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So for some
of you who might not know,

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D4 is a game that was
designed for Xbox One Kinect,

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so that you can play using your
motions from the very beginning

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all the way to the very end
in an action-adventure kind

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of story.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So this
is a type of game

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that you actually don't have to
hold the control in your hand.

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Everything is hand-motion based.

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So it has this sensor with
the Xbox One Kinect bar.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So the
Kinect, it actually

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takes a skeletal image of you.

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And then, using that,
it allows for it

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to detect the motion of the
person who's playing the game.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: It's kind of
like an all-in-one kind

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of sensor device.

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It doesn't only have
just the body movement

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sensor, but also
has a microphone,

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a camera, all the
different kinds of things.

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So it could accurately
capture what you're doing.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So in
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this is pretty much
all the sensors

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that are incorporated into
the Xbox Kinect sensor.

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As you can see, there's
a hand-tracking one

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with the three
different options there.

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Face-tracking, mic sensors-- all
of this is inside that little.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: We don't actually
know what it's used for,

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but there's also a glasses
tracking device sensor.

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SWERY: Doesn't make sense.

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[SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So in order
to come to this point,

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we've had a lot of different
input methods that we used.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So
this is, basically,

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all the different devices,
from the very beginning all

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the way to 2014.

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So all these devices have been
previously made up to now.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So basically,
at the very beginning,

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if you look over there,
there's games that

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only have a couple buttons.

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And then we've progressed
all the way over here.

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Do you know Femicon?

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It's on the corner there, too.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Yeah, in the very
beginning of the 90's, there's

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also this rifle controller
thing down here.

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That's all very interesting.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: He
understands how much we all

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love shooting games.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: And then, if you
look at the next decade over,

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or the next
generation, you notice

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that there's
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device for each specific game.

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So we have the new gun
controllers over here,

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and then the actual handheld
controller over here,

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specific to whatever game
that you are designing for.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: And
then in this era,

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you can see that they
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keyboard up top.

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So you use all different
kinds of medians

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in order to play these games.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: And then,
in the 2000 onwards,

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you noticed that we actually
have these kind of controllers.

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Basically, everything
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of screen panel attached to it.

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And then you have
guitars and drum sets,

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and things that we see
nowadays in gaming.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: That's Kinect.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So the Kinect is
over here underneath the Wii.

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So perhaps it's like whoever
made the slides preferences.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So probably
whenever we game nowadays,

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we have something similar
to this, where you're

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holding a handheld controller.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Also, the
other is like when you

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use actual computer-- PC games.

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And you have a mouse and
a keyboard to play with.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: And then also
nowadays, a particular style

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is to use these kind of
things, like a pad over there,

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or a guitar to play
the games nowadays.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So now we have
a question about Kinect.

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Is it one of those games
that you have something

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like a guitar in your
hand and you're playing,

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or is it something
controller-based in your hand?

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What do you think?

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Anyone
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like a gamepad device?

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Something that's
very specific and different.

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Anyone?

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So there's two sides here.

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We have a couple hands.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Some brave souls.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: In his
opinion, he thinks

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that Xbox One is traditional.

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It's more traditional,
and not special.

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It doesn't have those
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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So in
his opinion, there's

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two distinct differences
between a traditional game

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and a not-so-traditional game.

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The not-so-traditional
game would

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be something that
does not-- you're not

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designing the game based on
the medium that you're using.

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And then the other
way around, if it's

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a nontraditional device,
it is based-- sorry.

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I got that wrong.

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Sorry.

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A traditional device
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that you play based
off of the medium

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that you're using
to play the game.

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And a nontraditional device is
not dependent upon the medium

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that you're using,
but something else.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: He feels that a
special device-- a special game

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would be something like, let's
say then Guitar Hero, when you

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pick up a guitar, and you
have a guitar to play with,

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you automatically know
that this is a music game.

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It's not going to
be a fighting game.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: We're going
to explain a little bit

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about why the Kinect is
considered a traditional game.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So a game is made
by having the players input

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a code through a different
medium into the game itself.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So the symbols--
like pushing this button will

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fire this missile.

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Kind of shorthand symbol.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So
then in D4, instead

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of actually having a
motion mean something,

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it is more like you
follow the arrows.

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So if you wanted to turn the
page, you follow the arrow,

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and it will go around.

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So it's like a symbol based.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So there's
also, like Minority Report

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and Iron Man that came out,
it's not necessarily a game

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that you use because it's
based off of this Kinect,

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but kind of like a
halfway semi-using

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the Apple products and
the OS, iOSes in order

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to make the games.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So if you
kind of really focus into

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whether you're going
to make a special game

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or a traditional game, and
you narrow your vision,

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your game is probably going
to become kind of small.

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In his opinion, he
thinks that in order

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to make it a bigger deal,
and make it a bigger thing,

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you should break that boundary
between traditional and

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special, and find
something that works really

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well with the medium
that you're using.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So with
D4, what he wanted

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to challenge was not only
the actual game play itself,

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but how the players
interact with the device

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in order to make actions happen.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So
instead of having

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the user have a handheld
controller to click on buttons,

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he wanted to find a way that
you can actually have the people

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interact with the game by
having these hand gestures,

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or motioning a bat, and
having a story go along.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Are you interested?

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Do you
have a preference?

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Does anyone like
Kinect, particularly?

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Hate Kinect?

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Have an opinion about Kinect?

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It's good?

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I saw the-- over there.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So now
that we've piqued

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your interest a
little bit, I think

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that some people are
probably thinking,

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yes, let's incorporate
motions into our game.

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But actually there's a
bunch of little problems

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that come up when you
want to use motion.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: The Kinect is,
as you see, stupidly honest.

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It only registers the exact
motion that you are doing.

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So you have to be precise
when you play this.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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[LAUGHTER]

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INTERPRETER:
There's a function--

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especially like in D4, where if
you take from an outside hand

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motion, and you
swipe to the left,

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the camera will also follow you.

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Your vision will change as well.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So let's
say if I was going

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to swipe from my
right to my left,

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the camera will move this way.

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And if you move from
your left to the right,

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the camera will move that way.

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It didn't really work out.

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Have you tried to do it?

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So I know
some people probably

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have this, if you're a gamer--
I know I've experienced this.

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But if you try to
use one motion.

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Like, OK, I'm going
to slide to the left.

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That didn't work.

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Let me try it again.

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When you try it again, this
second sensor also catches.

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So then your computer's just
moving around like crazy.

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Instead of having
a one reset, it

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registers this backwards
motion as well.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So in order
to try to compensate,

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or to change this
method, he tried

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to make it so that if
you swipe really fast,

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the camera will react.

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But if you swipe really
slow, it will not react.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: But at
first, he thought

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this was a brilliant plan.

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But when you're really
hyped up and energized

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about playing a game, adrenaline
pumps in, and then everything

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becomes really fast.

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Or if you have maybe an older
person who maybe cannot move

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their hand quite so fast.

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It doesn't react.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So
then he thought, OK,

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let's try having a
little bit of time.

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So once you move the camera
angle, if you don't do anything

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you'll be OK.

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It won't move.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So it didn't
work, because this speed

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limitation was also one thing.

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But once it--
[SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: And then,
even if you do something,

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and then you're
like, OK, I'm going

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to wait two seconds before
I do to my next action,

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it actually just goes back
to what it was originally.

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It reverts back.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So just from
this one swiping action,

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he's changed it this many times.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So in the game D4,
in order to select something,

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like back or next, you actually
have to grab the back or next.

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There's a hand that
hovers, and then

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he makes this grabbing
function, and it pushes "Enter"

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pretty much.

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But then, in order
to differentiate

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between the swipe and
the grab-- or some

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people do a combination
of a swipe and a grab

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at the same time.

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So it didn't work per se.

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And so even if you're doing
one small action, like swiping,

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it caused this much different
trial and errors that came up.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So
what he wants to say

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is that even though
there might be

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some negative
views about Kinect,

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it's just basically
maybe certain developers,

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directors can't design
well for the game.

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However, these things
could possibly easily

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be overcome with
a software change.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: And so if you try
to find a game designer who

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doesn't think about
changing the software,

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and actually only concentrates
on the hardware version of it,

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then they're going to have
to make a game specifically

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designed towards the
hardware, instead of having

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the simple solution of let's
just change something else

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to make it better.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So instead of how
to make a good game, instead

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of thinking, "How do I use the
hardware that they've presented

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me?" well, using that
hardware incorporating

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a different software trying
to find a different approach

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to make the hardware
itself more stand out

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is what he wants to push.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Is it?

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PROFESSOR: We're going to try.

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INTERPRETER: Oh.

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OK.

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If this works, we can play D4.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Does
anyone want to play D4?

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Oh.

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Oh, oh yeah.

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You all have to raise
your hand at the Kinect,

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and it'll just
register everyone.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Anyone
whose name starts with D?

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First name.

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Like David, or
Diana, or Danielle?

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SWERY: Nobody?

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INTERPRETER: No one?

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Really?

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Last name?

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AUDIENCE: Yes.

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INTERPRETER: Yay!

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SWERY: You can play.

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Please.

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[SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: If it works.

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Don't move too quickly.

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Walk very slow.

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Has anyone played D4?

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SWERY: No?

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Not yet?

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INTERPRETER: I was supposed
to go to a meeting yesterday,

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and instead I sat at my
house for six hours on my D4.

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It's really addicting.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: So
maybe, as you said,

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no one here has really
played this game.

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But once you play it,
you'll know that this is not

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your typical game.

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It's a little bit different.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: But if this
doesn't work, it's affordable.

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It's only $15.

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Yay!

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]
Thank you for PR!

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[SPEAKING JAPANESE] Too dark.

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[SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: Would
it be possible

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if this doesn't work
to just do a Q&A now,

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and then maybe set this
up in a different room

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and have people play it?

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PROFESSOR: There's no
other room that has HDMI,

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especially a room that's
big enough for the class.

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INTERPRETER: I see.

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PROFESSOR: What I could
do is-- it wouldn't

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work for today,
of course, but we

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can do games in our game room.

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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PROFESSOR: Ah, it's
supposed to look like that?

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INTERPRETER: Yeah.

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It has to look like that.

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PROFESSOR: So it's the white.

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There's a whole layer of
color that's not being shown.

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AV PERSON: Right.

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So if it looks fine
on that screen,

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and then it doesn't look
fine on another screen,

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then I can't say that it's the
connection that's the problem.

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PROFESSOR: Yeah.

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So it could just be the--

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AV PERSON: It's
possible it could

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be the HDMI cable as well.

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But there is two things
that I could suggest.

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We could actually [INAUDIBLE].

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INTERPRETER: Just
walk really slowly.

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[INTERPOSING VOICES]

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PROFESSOR: And then
after-- [INAUDIBLE].

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AV PERSON: We'll be
back in 5, 10 minutes.

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PROFESSOR: 5, 10 minutes?

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Great.

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Cool.

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INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

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INTERPRETER: OK.

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It was a really fun game.

493
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Yeah!

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So we're actually going to
try to do this one more time,

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but we have about 5 or 10
minutes while they figure out

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the technical aspects.

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But if anyone has
any questions, we

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can entertain them right now.

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AUDIENCE: So you mentioned
adjustments to the software

500
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:54,386
that you made to
the Kinect firmware.

501
00:26:54,386 --> 00:26:58,362
Is that something that--
is it very accessible?

502
00:26:58,362 --> 00:27:01,326
Is it easy to change the
software that it comes with?

503
00:27:01,326 --> 00:27:07,122
I would think Microsoft wouldn't
want people messing with--

504
00:27:07,122 --> 00:27:09,060
and they muck it
up or something.

505
00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:15,220
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

506
00:27:15,220 --> 00:27:22,900
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

507
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:25,400
INTERPRETER: So it's actually
pretty easy to change,

508
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,650
apparently, the software part.

509
00:27:26,650 --> 00:27:31,510
But in order to think about how
it could be better-- like why

510
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:33,600
it's buggy, or what
could be better--

511
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,963
what could make it smoother,
in order to even make D4,

512
00:27:35,963 --> 00:27:37,200
it took three years.

513
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,440
So coming up with all
the different things

514
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,510
that could possibly go
wrong is more of an issue.

515
00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:43,135
AUDIENCE: Yeah.

516
00:27:43,135 --> 00:27:45,272
You mentioned the
problem with the camera.

517
00:27:45,272 --> 00:27:46,820
How did you finally fix it?

518
00:27:46,820 --> 00:27:47,611
INTERPRETER: Which?

519
00:27:47,611 --> 00:27:48,733
Sorry?

520
00:27:48,733 --> 00:27:52,661
AUDIENCE: He mentioned the
problem with the camera.

521
00:27:52,661 --> 00:27:55,620
How did he finally fix it?

522
00:27:55,620 --> 00:28:02,300
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

523
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:23,739
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

524
00:28:23,739 --> 00:28:26,030
INTERPRETER: So basically,
it's just a bazillion trials

525
00:28:26,030 --> 00:28:29,190
and errors, asking people--
like any users, hey,

526
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:31,910
let's play Testament a bazillion
times over, and just trying

527
00:28:31,910 --> 00:28:35,400
to somehow come up
with the solution.

528
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:48,560
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

529
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,120
INTERPRETER: So actually,
with the Kinect,

530
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,500
it registers everyone's height
and weight kind of things.

531
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:57,545
So if you go to
Japan, where everyone

532
00:28:57,545 --> 00:29:01,390
tends to be a little
bit vertically smaller,

533
00:29:01,390 --> 00:29:03,590
as opposed to if you
go to America, Europe,

534
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:06,190
and the people tend to
be a little bit bigger.

535
00:29:06,190 --> 00:29:09,340
So he has to go to all
these different countries

536
00:29:09,340 --> 00:29:11,800
and have play tests done
at those specific countries

537
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,308
in order to adjust
for physical problems.

538
00:29:17,308 --> 00:29:19,612
AUDIENCE: You mentioned
the input device

539
00:29:19,612 --> 00:29:21,070
affecting how you
design your game.

540
00:29:21,070 --> 00:29:23,730
What would you do if you had
a brain-computer interface?

541
00:29:26,872 --> 00:29:28,580
INTERPRETER: You would
laugh, apparently.

542
00:29:32,820 --> 00:29:53,192
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

543
00:29:53,192 --> 00:29:55,650
INTERPRETER: So he actually
wants to challenge it sometime.

544
00:29:55,650 --> 00:29:57,627
But even with the
motion sensors,

545
00:29:57,627 --> 00:29:59,460
you have so many problems
that are going on.

546
00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:03,330
So as a game designer, if you
were to use the brain sensor

547
00:30:03,330 --> 00:30:06,260
ones, you'd have to even
think of one step even ahead

548
00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:08,310
of the player in
order to get it to go.

549
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:11,430
So it'd probably
be very difficult.

550
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:26,176
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

551
00:30:26,176 --> 00:30:27,550
INTERPRETER: But
even in D4, when

552
00:30:27,550 --> 00:30:31,260
we have even like an
arrow, people, humans,

553
00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:34,654
we tend to automatically
follow the arrow anyways.

554
00:30:34,654 --> 00:30:36,570
So if there's just an
arrow and no directions,

555
00:30:36,570 --> 00:30:38,160
you just kind of
follow the arrow.

556
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,990
So perhaps there is
a way to actually

557
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:42,152
have it so that we can
do the brain sensors,

558
00:30:42,152 --> 00:30:45,496
because of existing
motor recognition.

559
00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:51,558
AUDIENCE: You
mentioned that you have

560
00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:55,530
this more generalized input
devices and specific input

561
00:30:55,530 --> 00:30:56,839
devices.

562
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:58,005
What's your opinion on that?

563
00:30:58,005 --> 00:31:00,645
Even for the generalized
input devices, some of them

564
00:31:00,645 --> 00:31:02,955
are better for some
games and not others.

565
00:31:02,955 --> 00:31:06,640
For example, keyboard and
mouse works well for strategy,

566
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,192
but you can't really
do StarCraft II

567
00:31:09,192 --> 00:31:13,494
with a standard controller.

568
00:31:13,494 --> 00:31:37,950
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

569
00:31:37,950 --> 00:31:53,040
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

570
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,040
INTERPRETER: So his opinion
is it doesn't really

571
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,400
change based on having one
set-- the design for what

572
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,210
you want to make.

573
00:32:01,210 --> 00:32:03,510
But as a designer,
you definitely

574
00:32:03,510 --> 00:32:06,314
should think about which
one is going to work better.

575
00:32:06,314 --> 00:32:08,480
As you said, StarCraft would
not really work so well

576
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640
with a handheld controller.

577
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,840
And so that's kind
of up to the designer

578
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,690
to decide whichever is better.

579
00:32:14,690 --> 00:32:29,480
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

580
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,120
INTERPRETER: So we're
not trying to be like,

581
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,030
"Go play Kinect, everyone!"

582
00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:36,470
But it's more of
instead of having

583
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:38,640
this is one option,
by using the Kinect,

584
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,790
how can we make it so
that the user actually

585
00:32:40,790 --> 00:32:44,330
feels more like they
are playing in the game,

586
00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:45,830
actually, controlling
the character,

587
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:49,640
and having different
options that way?

588
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,060
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

589
00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:54,110
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

590
00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:54,610
SWERY: You?

591
00:32:56,254 --> 00:32:58,004
AUDIENCE: So I found
it really interesting

592
00:32:58,004 --> 00:32:59,589
how you talked about
the differences

593
00:32:59,589 --> 00:33:01,050
between the different
kinds of controllers,

594
00:33:01,050 --> 00:33:02,511
and what you just
said about having

595
00:33:02,511 --> 00:33:06,080
to think carefully about
which controls do you use.

596
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,676
Is there something about
the Kinect's motion

597
00:33:08,676 --> 00:33:10,800
detection that you
think really contributed

598
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,839
to the feel or the
atmosphere of the game?

599
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:15,880
And then you talked a
little bit about immersion,

600
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,595
but something maybe a
little more specific

601
00:33:17,595 --> 00:33:19,053
than that-- something
that you feel

602
00:33:19,053 --> 00:33:20,780
like, because I used
the Kinect, I really

603
00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:22,363
got to do something
specifically cool?

604
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:46,420
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

605
00:33:46,420 --> 00:33:50,170
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

606
00:33:50,170 --> 00:33:56,250
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

607
00:33:56,250 --> 00:34:12,190
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

608
00:34:12,190 --> 00:34:14,935
INTERPRETER: So
with the D4 game,

609
00:34:14,935 --> 00:34:16,560
let's say if you
wanted to use a mouse,

610
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,270
and you can actually follow
the mouse with the arrows,

611
00:34:20,270 --> 00:34:22,866
or use the control of the
D-pad and follow around

612
00:34:22,866 --> 00:34:23,690
with the arrows.

613
00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:25,330
But with Kinect,
what is really cool

614
00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:27,550
is that you can
actually move your hand

615
00:34:27,550 --> 00:34:30,719
and click on something,
or do an action based off

616
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:31,889
of Kinect functions.

617
00:34:31,889 --> 00:34:47,520
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

618
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,050
INTERPRETER: So let's
say by using the Kinect,

619
00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:54,489
there is-- it's kind
of easier if you

620
00:34:54,489 --> 00:34:58,560
have played this before--
as with everything.

621
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,070
But there are
certain things that

622
00:35:00,070 --> 00:35:02,150
happen-- like real-time,
different events that

623
00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:05,840
are triggered because of another
thing that you have done.

624
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,430
And with Kinect, it's
actually smoother.

625
00:35:08,430 --> 00:35:12,750
Like your emotions, if you feel
really on edge about something,

626
00:35:12,750 --> 00:35:15,000
it kind of reflects in
your body movements,

627
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,740
and then it catches that.

628
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:20,080
So with the Kinect,
there's a little bit more

629
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,210
in your personal-- like you're
in the game kind of thing,

630
00:35:23,210 --> 00:35:24,738
as opposed to a controller.

631
00:35:24,738 --> 00:35:45,680
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

632
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,720
INTERPRETER: And then, so if you
had a controller in your hand,

633
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,870
or a mouse or a
keyboard, the only way

634
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:52,902
to make something harder--
to raise difficulty--

635
00:35:52,902 --> 00:35:54,610
is to increase the
speed of your tapping,

636
00:35:54,610 --> 00:35:57,387
or something has to--
that kind of thing.

637
00:35:57,387 --> 00:35:58,470
There might be other ways.

638
00:35:58,470 --> 00:36:00,830
But for the most part,
we increase the speed.

639
00:36:00,830 --> 00:36:03,250
However, with the Kinect
you actually physically

640
00:36:03,250 --> 00:36:07,470
have to emotionally gut
yourself into it in order for it

641
00:36:07,470 --> 00:36:09,576
to increase.

642
00:36:09,576 --> 00:36:11,324
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

643
00:36:11,324 --> 00:36:11,990
INTERPRETER: Oh.

644
00:36:15,370 --> 00:36:16,250
SWERY: You?

645
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:17,726
AUDIENCE: Yeah.

646
00:36:17,726 --> 00:36:19,694
In my experience with
these kind of things

647
00:36:19,694 --> 00:36:22,154
where you have no
direct control over what

648
00:36:22,154 --> 00:36:26,582
several users may have-- like
you talked about the grandma

649
00:36:26,582 --> 00:36:28,550
and speed up.

650
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:31,256
So, in my experience,
the way you do it is you

651
00:36:31,256 --> 00:36:32,978
make sure that
that is a variable.

652
00:36:32,978 --> 00:36:34,946
And I'm asking, why is
it not possible here?

653
00:36:34,946 --> 00:36:36,914
So, for example,
before the game starts,

654
00:36:36,914 --> 00:36:39,989
you ask the grandma to
register how fast she

655
00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:41,774
can do this with the camera.

656
00:36:41,774 --> 00:36:42,440
INTERPRETER: Oh.

657
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,750
Like a Windows
double-click speed testing?

658
00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:45,750
AUDIENCE: Yeah, exactly.

659
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:47,750
So you set up all those
things as variables.

660
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:49,750
And when the game starts the
grandma can go at her pace,

661
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:51,125
the young guy can
go at his pace.

662
00:36:54,250 --> 00:37:03,247
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

663
00:37:03,247 --> 00:37:04,330
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

664
00:37:04,330 --> 00:37:07,640
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]
You can in D4.

665
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,813
In D4 you can.

666
00:37:12,130 --> 00:37:18,720
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

667
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:21,420
INTERPRETER: But they still
took an average, pretty much.

668
00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:24,030
So most people would be
able to still play it

669
00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:29,160
without having to finagle
though all the settings.

670
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:37,220
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]
Any other question?

671
00:37:37,220 --> 00:37:43,196
AUDIENCE: What's the cost
for an average game that,

672
00:37:43,196 --> 00:37:46,184
say, like cost, like D4?

673
00:37:46,184 --> 00:37:50,168
What's the cost in
terms of capital,

674
00:37:50,168 --> 00:37:54,650
number of people you need--
developers, artists, whatever?

675
00:37:54,650 --> 00:37:56,895
INTERPRETER: You want a very
large number, basically.

676
00:37:56,895 --> 00:37:59,020
AUDIENCE: How long would
it take to develop a game?

677
00:38:00,855 --> 00:38:05,780
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

678
00:38:05,780 --> 00:38:08,210
SWERY: Oh.

679
00:38:08,210 --> 00:38:09,850
INTERPRETER: Many zeroes.

680
00:38:09,850 --> 00:38:22,368
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

681
00:38:22,368 --> 00:38:24,840
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

682
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:38,522
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

683
00:38:38,522 --> 00:38:39,855
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

684
00:38:39,855 --> 00:38:42,185
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

685
00:38:42,185 --> 00:38:44,060
INTERPRETER: So it's
kind of difficult to put

686
00:38:44,060 --> 00:38:46,724
a number to how much it costs.

687
00:38:46,724 --> 00:38:48,890
This is kind of hard for
me explain, so bear with me

688
00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:49,660
a moment.

689
00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:52,860
But if you were to say
how many people were

690
00:38:52,860 --> 00:38:56,520
to work on this game,
and then kind of use that

691
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,420
as a monetary
equation, in one month

692
00:38:58,420 --> 00:38:59,920
if you were going
to make this game,

693
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,580
you'd probably have
about 600 peoples' worth.

694
00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:05,480
Does that make sense?

695
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,310
So if you only had 20
people, and 20 people worked

696
00:39:09,310 --> 00:39:11,400
on one game for one
month, it would maybe

697
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,306
take 30 months to finish
this game kind of thing.

698
00:39:14,306 --> 00:39:15,180
Does that make sense?

699
00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:23,960
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

700
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,580
INTERPRETER: So D4 is
still a smaller-- it's not

701
00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:28,310
a huge, giant, giant game.

702
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:32,190
So if you go to maybe
PlayStation, like a big company

703
00:39:32,190 --> 00:39:35,080
game, it might be 300
people, one month,

704
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,340
for 30 months kind of thing.

705
00:39:36,340 --> 00:39:38,550
So it kind of depends.

706
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:40,550
And it's a roundabout,
not really a good answer.

707
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:41,050
But--

708
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,186
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

709
00:39:47,186 --> 00:39:48,122
INTERPRETER: Yes!

710
00:39:48,122 --> 00:39:49,790
It's working!

711
00:39:49,790 --> 00:39:50,950
Finally!

712
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:52,033
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

713
00:39:52,033 --> 00:39:52,741
INTERPRETER: Yay!

714
00:39:55,420 --> 00:39:59,967
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

715
00:39:59,967 --> 00:40:01,300
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

716
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:11,910
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

717
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:13,750
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

718
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:23,439
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

719
00:40:23,439 --> 00:40:24,230
INTERPRETER: Color.

720
00:40:32,530 --> 00:40:34,094
Can everyone see?

721
00:40:34,094 --> 00:40:36,010
If you can't, you could
consolidate, probably.

722
00:40:37,345 --> 00:40:38,680
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

723
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,680
INTERPRETER: Binoculars.

724
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:48,245
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

725
00:40:48,245 --> 00:40:51,505
INTERPRETER: So you have to move
your hand, and pick and grab.

726
00:40:51,505 --> 00:40:52,060
Yeah.

727
00:40:52,060 --> 00:40:53,010
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

728
00:40:53,010 --> 00:40:53,440
INTERPRETER: Yes.

729
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,375
The action is good.

730
00:40:59,350 --> 00:41:01,470
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

731
00:41:01,470 --> 00:41:03,710
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

732
00:41:03,710 --> 00:41:08,380
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

733
00:41:08,380 --> 00:41:12,550
INTERPRETER: There might
be some graphic morals,

734
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:13,660
or graphic language.

735
00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:16,770
I hope we're all OK.

736
00:41:16,770 --> 00:41:23,799
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

737
00:41:23,799 --> 00:41:27,292
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER:
Get out here now!

738
00:41:27,292 --> 00:41:33,280
[PUNCH]

739
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,854
[PUNCHES AND GRUNTS]

740
00:41:36,854 --> 00:41:38,270
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER:
[INAUDIBLE].

741
00:41:42,062 --> 00:41:43,759
Set your ass on your head!

742
00:41:43,759 --> 00:41:48,250
No more messing with me, Papi!

743
00:41:48,250 --> 00:41:50,246
[GRUNTS]

744
00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:52,741
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

745
00:41:52,741 --> 00:41:56,234
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

746
00:41:56,234 --> 00:41:57,731
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER: Bad.

747
00:41:57,731 --> 00:41:59,228
Real bad!

748
00:41:59,228 --> 00:42:01,224
[INAUDIBLE] I said.

749
00:42:01,224 --> 00:42:04,218
You're never, ever,
ever gonna [INAUDIBLE].

750
00:42:13,073 --> 00:42:14,697
INTERPRETER: That's
the main character.

751
00:42:14,697 --> 00:42:15,695
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER:
There you are.

752
00:42:15,695 --> 00:42:16,195
[INAUDIBLE]

753
00:42:24,178 --> 00:42:25,176
Hey, Papi!

754
00:42:25,176 --> 00:42:27,172
Ha-ha-ha-ha!

755
00:42:27,172 --> 00:42:28,170
So how about--

756
00:42:28,170 --> 00:42:29,168
SWERY: Action.

757
00:42:29,168 --> 00:42:29,334
INTERPRETER: Oh.

758
00:42:29,334 --> 00:42:30,166
And this is the action.

759
00:42:30,166 --> 00:42:31,749
You have to move
your right hand down.

760
00:42:31,749 --> 00:42:32,661
There.

761
00:42:32,661 --> 00:42:46,633
[SOUNDS OF FIGHT]

762
00:42:46,633 --> 00:42:49,627
[LAUGHTER]

763
00:43:49,507 --> 00:43:50,210
Yeah.

764
00:43:50,210 --> 00:43:51,750
Things just got serious!

765
00:43:55,208 --> 00:43:57,184
[LAUGHTER]

766
00:43:57,184 --> 00:43:59,654
[INAUDIBLE], I'm walking
this one down to the park.

767
00:44:08,546 --> 00:44:11,510
[LAUGHTER]

768
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:14,474
[APPLAUSE]

769
00:44:26,330 --> 00:44:34,000
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

770
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,600
INTERPRETER: So it
wasn't used here,

771
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,100
but there's actually moments
where you scream into the mic--

772
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,440
the sensor in the
microphone-- to catch it.

773
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:40,940
Yeah.

774
00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:43,481
You'll have a little command on
the side that says, "Scream."

775
00:44:43,481 --> 00:44:44,380
And you're like "Ah!"

776
00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:45,300
And it goes whoop.

777
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:47,600
Like, OK!

778
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,567
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

779
00:44:50,567 --> 00:44:52,650
INTERPRETER: So we're kind
of running low on time.

780
00:44:52,650 --> 00:44:55,016
So he's going to do
the adventure one.

781
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:05,980
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

782
00:45:05,980 --> 00:45:07,480
INTERPRETER: Thank
you for laughing.

783
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,895
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

784
00:45:27,895 --> 00:45:29,520
INTERPRETER: The
loading time, however,

785
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,065
is something we cannot overcome.

786
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,579
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

787
00:45:39,579 --> 00:45:41,370
INTERPRETER: So this
adventure scene, we're

788
00:45:41,370 --> 00:45:45,394
just going to show you how
to investigate the rooms

789
00:45:45,394 --> 00:45:45,894
themselves.

790
00:45:58,070 --> 00:46:05,047
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

791
00:46:05,047 --> 00:46:06,380
INTERPRETER: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

792
00:46:06,380 --> 00:46:22,252
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

793
00:46:22,252 --> 00:46:26,220
[MUSIC PLAYING]

794
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:11,220
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

795
00:47:11,220 --> 00:47:13,960
INTERPRETER: So he has a special
ability to go back in time.

796
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,036
And just now, when he fell,
he just came back from back

797
00:47:17,036 --> 00:47:17,820
in time.

798
00:47:17,820 --> 00:47:21,330
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

799
00:47:21,330 --> 00:47:22,830
INTERPRETER: So by
using Kinect, you

800
00:47:22,830 --> 00:47:25,970
can interact with the characters
by using these hand signals.

801
00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:32,100
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

802
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:35,297
INTERPRETER: And then
there's an exclamation point.

803
00:47:35,297 --> 00:47:36,880
If you hover your
hand over it, you'll

804
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,630
be able to see
important information.

805
00:47:47,830 --> 00:47:51,990
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

806
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:53,240
INTERPRETER: He's a detective.

807
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:56,310
Basically, his wife was
killed two years ago,

808
00:47:56,310 --> 00:48:01,630
and he's looking for the
true murderer of the case.

809
00:48:01,630 --> 00:48:04,116
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER:
My name is David Young.

810
00:48:04,116 --> 00:48:06,121
Former narc with the Boston PD.

811
00:48:06,121 --> 00:48:07,912
INTERPRETER: It takes
place in Boston, too!

812
00:48:11,848 --> 00:48:15,784
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER: My likes
include 100% agave tequila.

813
00:48:15,784 --> 00:48:19,720
My dislikes are mainly
drugs and chewing gum.

814
00:48:25,132 --> 00:48:30,544
Two years ago someone
killed my wife.

815
00:48:30,544 --> 00:48:32,840
Since then I've been using
every second of my life

816
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,970
to solve the case.

817
00:48:35,970 --> 00:48:38,748
SWERY: My name!

818
00:48:38,748 --> 00:48:39,748
INTERPRETER: That's him!

819
00:48:44,740 --> 00:48:50,985
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

820
00:48:50,985 --> 00:48:52,860
INTERPRETER: Just by
moving your hand around,

821
00:48:52,860 --> 00:48:57,580
you can pick which one you
actually want to interact with.

822
00:48:57,580 --> 00:49:00,250
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

823
00:49:00,250 --> 00:49:03,280
INTERPRETER: And then, if
you clasp your hand together,

824
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,450
it's enter.

825
00:49:04,450 --> 00:49:07,340
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

826
00:49:07,340 --> 00:49:09,861
INTERPRETER: And if you follow
the movement of the arrow,

827
00:49:09,861 --> 00:49:14,100
it moves the character's hand.

828
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:17,410
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER: It's
been broken since that day.

829
00:49:17,410 --> 00:49:18,645
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

830
00:49:18,645 --> 00:49:20,145
INTERPRETER: You
can use both hands.

831
00:49:23,420 --> 00:49:25,230
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

832
00:49:25,230 --> 00:49:27,480
INTERPRETER: If you wanted
to change the camera angle,

833
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,920
you put your hand all the way
to the side and swipe across.

834
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,292
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

835
00:49:34,292 --> 00:49:36,700
INTERPRETER: And then if
you tried to swipe it twice,

836
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:38,840
it'd be
back-forth-back-forth-back-forth

837
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,012
instead of having this basically
holding it and sliding over.

838
00:49:45,350 --> 00:49:50,369
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

839
00:49:50,369 --> 00:49:52,160
INTERPRETER: Of course,
you're not actually

840
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,390
shutting something physical.

841
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:54,890
But by using the
arrows, you kind of

842
00:49:54,890 --> 00:49:57,785
have the feeling that you are
shutting the toilet seat down.

843
00:49:57,785 --> 00:50:00,755
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER: In
a slightly different form.

844
00:50:00,755 --> 00:50:03,230
Like all these forgotten
treasures, mementos.

845
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:11,964
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

846
00:50:11,964 --> 00:50:12,630
INTERPRETER: OK.

847
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:16,350
Put your hands up,
it closes the screen.

848
00:50:16,350 --> 00:50:19,647
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

849
00:50:19,647 --> 00:50:21,730
INTERPRETER: We're going
to skip this serious part

850
00:50:21,730 --> 00:50:23,221
and just go into action.

851
00:50:26,139 --> 00:50:28,222
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER: No
results this time either.

852
00:50:28,222 --> 00:50:30,677
This case is in the clear.

853
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,530
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

854
00:50:46,674 --> 00:50:48,840
INTERPRETER: So there's a
lot of things in the rooms

855
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,964
that you can interact with.

856
00:50:49,964 --> 00:50:52,260
And if you're not sure
which one you should do,

857
00:50:52,260 --> 00:50:54,600
if you put your
hand like this, it

858
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,786
activates a thing called
Vision, which is actually

859
00:50:56,786 --> 00:50:57,660
voice-commanded also.

860
00:50:57,660 --> 00:51:00,144
You can say "Vision on,"
and it will turn on.

861
00:51:00,144 --> 00:51:02,060
And it shows you the
different options of what

862
00:51:02,060 --> 00:51:04,850
you could pick up or touch.

863
00:51:04,850 --> 00:51:16,497
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

864
00:51:16,497 --> 00:51:18,330
INTERPRETER: So usually
with the controller,

865
00:51:18,330 --> 00:51:20,860
you use like Y button or
something to enter something.

866
00:51:20,860 --> 00:51:23,380
But with the Kinect, by
using an actual hand gesture

867
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:27,259
you can connect with that
even better, the characters.

868
00:51:27,259 --> 00:51:29,092
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER:
There's only one thing

869
00:51:29,092 --> 00:51:30,972
I need at the moment.

870
00:51:30,972 --> 00:51:31,472
Tequila.

871
00:51:31,472 --> 00:51:32,910
Straight up.

872
00:51:32,910 --> 00:51:34,450
SWERY: Me too.

873
00:51:34,450 --> 00:51:35,366
INTERPRETER: Him, too.

874
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:59,194
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

875
00:51:59,194 --> 00:52:01,610
INTERPRETER: If you had to do
a gesture every few seconds,

876
00:52:01,610 --> 00:52:02,950
it might get kind of annoying.

877
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:04,540
But as you see, it's
like spaced out.

878
00:52:04,540 --> 00:52:06,415
It's only occasionally
you do these gestures.

879
00:52:10,910 --> 00:52:12,492
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

880
00:52:12,492 --> 00:52:13,950
INTERPRETER: This
is his dead wife.

881
00:52:18,357 --> 00:52:20,398
WIFE IN VIDEO GAME: Maybe
I'll just try a little.

882
00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:26,350
Oh!

883
00:52:26,350 --> 00:52:38,750
[LAUGHING]

884
00:52:38,750 --> 00:52:43,670
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

885
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:44,420
INTERPRETER: Yeah.

886
00:52:44,420 --> 00:52:45,878
Everything he does
is very violent.

887
00:52:52,725 --> 00:52:55,575
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER: I have
no memories of that day.

888
00:52:55,575 --> 00:53:01,459
When I came to, I was
already lying in the ICU.

889
00:53:01,459 --> 00:53:05,355
The only thing I do remember
are the words that little Peggy

890
00:53:05,355 --> 00:53:08,764
whispered as she died.

891
00:53:08,764 --> 00:53:15,914
"Look for 'D.'" Who is "D"?

892
00:53:15,914 --> 00:53:17,330
INTERPRETER: Which
we tried to do.

893
00:53:17,330 --> 00:53:19,795
But no one's name
started with "D."

894
00:53:19,795 --> 00:53:20,295
So sad!

895
00:53:33,498 --> 00:53:34,965
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER:
At the time,

896
00:53:34,965 --> 00:53:36,921
there's no compelling evidence.

897
00:53:36,921 --> 00:53:39,880
[INAUDIBLE]

898
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,558
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

899
00:53:41,558 --> 00:53:44,990
INTERPRETER: Such
a depressing story.

900
00:53:44,990 --> 00:53:47,156
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER: Under
the right circumstances,

901
00:53:47,156 --> 00:53:50,285
I now have the capability to
solve even a dead-end case.

902
00:53:50,285 --> 00:53:52,076
INTERPRETER: He even
has an accent, though.

903
00:54:00,250 --> 00:54:01,916
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER:
I'll do everything

904
00:54:01,916 --> 00:54:04,868
in my power to find this "D."

905
00:54:04,868 --> 00:54:06,344
I swear I will.

906
00:54:06,344 --> 00:54:09,296
And when I do, oh, Peggy.

907
00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:13,160
Amanda?

908
00:54:18,876 --> 00:54:26,292
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

909
00:54:26,292 --> 00:54:28,500
INTERPRETER: So we're going
to investigate this door.

910
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:33,330
Huh!

911
00:54:33,330 --> 00:54:38,160
[MEOW]

912
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:46,217
[MEOWING]

913
00:54:46,217 --> 00:54:47,300
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

914
00:54:47,300 --> 00:54:49,258
INTERPRETER: And then
he's going to [INAUDIBLE]

915
00:55:00,503 --> 00:55:04,175
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER:
You can't escape now.

916
00:55:04,175 --> 00:55:06,600
[MEOW]

917
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:13,390
[MEOWING]

918
00:55:13,390 --> 00:55:14,976
This is Amanda.

919
00:55:14,976 --> 00:55:16,100
She just suddenly started--

920
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:17,080
INTERPRETER: And you
can move your body

921
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,806
and change the camera angle.

922
00:55:18,806 --> 00:55:21,389
VIDEO GAME CHARACTER: Sometimes
goes out and gets food for us.

923
00:55:21,389 --> 00:55:23,243
And that's something
of a lifeline for me,

924
00:55:23,243 --> 00:55:25,215
because I don't
really go outside.

925
00:55:25,215 --> 00:55:30,967
Just who she is, though-- well,
my memory holds no answers.

926
00:55:30,967 --> 00:55:32,050
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

927
00:55:32,050 --> 00:55:33,970
INTERPRETER: That's the end.

928
00:55:33,970 --> 00:55:34,930
SWERY: Thank you.

929
00:55:34,930 --> 00:55:41,519
[APPLAUSE]

930
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:43,810
INTERPRETER: Again, the game
does take place in Boston,

931
00:55:43,810 --> 00:55:46,260
so it's kind of adorable.

932
00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:48,910
BPD comes out.

933
00:55:48,910 --> 00:55:58,925
SWERY: [SPEAKING JAPANESE]

934
00:55:58,925 --> 00:56:00,907
INTERPRETER: So if
you can get a chance

935
00:56:00,907 --> 00:56:02,490
to maybe play around
with it sometime,

936
00:56:02,490 --> 00:56:03,120
it would be wonderful.

937
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,703
If you can experiment
around with what

938
00:56:04,703 --> 00:56:07,090
we talked about today, and
see how the interaction

939
00:56:07,090 --> 00:56:08,430
will change your game-play.

940
00:56:08,430 --> 00:56:09,765
Thank you very much.

941
00:56:09,765 --> 00:56:11,745
[APPLAUSE]

942
00:56:11,745 --> 00:56:16,955
[CROWD NOISE]