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That 20 00:00:55,750 --> 00:00:56,790 gives them a quantity. 21 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:59,620 And then they choose the price off the demand curve and how 22 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:03,370 that leads to profits and how that leads to monopolists 23 00:01:03,370 --> 00:01:05,960 producing less than the competitive level. 24 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:08,640 And we also ended by talking about a perfectly price 25 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,520 discriminating monopolist, one that can actually charge each 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,540 consumer their willingness to pay and therefore, absorb all 27 00:01:15,540 --> 00:01:17,430 the social surplus. 28 00:01:17,430 --> 00:01:20,480 Now, I want to come back and start, this morning, by 29 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,620 talking again about price discrimination and realizing 30 00:01:23,620 --> 00:01:26,430 that, in some sense, we know that there's no such thing as 31 00:01:26,430 --> 00:01:27,680 perfect price discrimination. 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,410 There's no monopolist out there charging us literally 33 00:01:29,410 --> 00:01:31,650 exactly what we're willing to pay. 34 00:01:31,650 --> 00:01:34,090 But there are lots of examples of price discrimination in the 35 00:01:34,090 --> 00:01:35,340 real world. 36 00:01:35,340 --> 00:01:38,150 And sometimes they're kind of obvious. 37 00:01:38,150 --> 00:01:39,670 Sometimes they're not. 38 00:01:39,670 --> 00:01:43,020 But what they all have in common is the notion of trying 39 00:01:43,020 --> 00:01:46,430 to find some signal of our willingness to pay and using 40 00:01:46,430 --> 00:01:48,200 that to set the price. 41 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,070 So instead of being like our original monopolist, just 42 00:01:50,070 --> 00:01:51,130 setting one price. 43 00:01:51,130 --> 00:01:53,790 Monopolists are forever trying to find some signal, some 44 00:01:53,790 --> 00:01:56,870 underlying signal of our willingness to pay and using 45 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:58,420 that to set the price. 46 00:01:58,420 --> 00:01:58,930 OK. 47 00:01:58,930 --> 00:02:02,970 So for example, a classic example we know is airlines. 48 00:02:02,970 --> 00:02:03,450 OK. 49 00:02:03,450 --> 00:02:05,000 What airlines do-- 50 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,480 Airlines charge you more, for example, if you book your 51 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,370 ticket the last minute. 52 00:02:10,370 --> 00:02:13,300 And the notion of course-- or towards the last minute. 53 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:15,370 At the very last minute they may end up charging you less. 54 00:02:15,370 --> 00:02:17,740 But as you get close to the date when you want to leave, 55 00:02:17,740 --> 00:02:19,900 the price goes up. 56 00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:24,100 The notion, of course, is that who is going to buy tickets 57 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:26,523 close to the date they want to leave. It's largely going to 58 00:02:26,523 --> 00:02:31,400 be business people, not the vacation traveler. 59 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,050 The vacation traveler is going to plan ahead 60 00:02:33,050 --> 00:02:34,120 and buy far in advance. 61 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,110 The one that's going to buy a week before is the business 62 00:02:36,110 --> 00:02:38,460 person who just got a meeting scheduled. 63 00:02:38,460 --> 00:02:41,830 Business people are going to be less price sensitive. 64 00:02:41,830 --> 00:02:43,100 They're going to have a higher willingness to pay. 65 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:44,920 They've got to get to the meeting. 66 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:45,750 They're not paying anyway. 67 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:47,230 The company's paying. 68 00:02:47,230 --> 00:02:48,210 And they're just to do what they need 69 00:02:48,210 --> 00:02:50,080 to get to the meeting. 70 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,250 So that's a less price sensitive population. 71 00:02:52,250 --> 00:02:53,620 So that's the population you want to hit 72 00:02:53,620 --> 00:02:56,165 with a higher price. 73 00:02:56,165 --> 00:02:59,630 So you want to price up tickets that you buy towards 74 00:02:59,630 --> 00:03:01,270 the end because those are more likely to be the people who 75 00:03:01,270 --> 00:03:04,440 are least price sensitive. 76 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,360 So let's ask another question. 77 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,220 Somebody tell me why do movie theaters charge less for 78 00:03:10,220 --> 00:03:13,220 matinees than for movies at night? 79 00:03:13,220 --> 00:03:14,540 Why do movie theaters charge less? 80 00:03:14,540 --> 00:03:16,280 If you go see the first movie of the day-- and you guys 81 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:16,900 probably don't anymore. 82 00:03:16,900 --> 00:03:19,000 But when you were kids you did. 83 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,170 And when I take my take my kids, I do. 84 00:03:21,170 --> 00:03:24,230 And that afternoon matinee movie costs less. 85 00:03:24,230 --> 00:03:25,480 Why is that? 86 00:03:27,730 --> 00:03:29,410 Yeah. 87 00:03:29,410 --> 00:03:30,590 Anyone want to take a chance at that? 88 00:03:30,590 --> 00:03:33,130 And related to it, you can also ask the question. 89 00:03:33,130 --> 00:03:35,570 Why do restaurants have early bird specials? 90 00:03:35,570 --> 00:03:37,400 Why, when you go to restaurant, often will they 91 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,660 charge you less if you go there in the early hours as 92 00:03:39,660 --> 00:03:40,780 opposed to later? 93 00:03:40,780 --> 00:03:41,560 So what's going on with that? 94 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,054 Someone tell me. 95 00:03:43,054 --> 00:03:43,511 Yeah. 96 00:03:43,511 --> 00:03:45,150 AUDIENCE: They're not using up all their 97 00:03:45,150 --> 00:03:46,560 seats in the afternoon. 98 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,440 So they might as well lower the price. 99 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,960 PROFESSOR: In the afternoon they're not. 100 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,390 Although the truth is, a lot of the time they're-- 101 00:03:52,390 --> 00:03:55,370 If you look at a movie theater today, it's almost never full, 102 00:03:55,370 --> 00:03:58,640 except for like the opening night of a very popular movie. 103 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,530 So that's part of it. 104 00:03:59,530 --> 00:04:00,800 But let's talk about the demand side. 105 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,800 What else is special about the type of people? 106 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,990 Why don't you go on what's special about the type of 107 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:08,480 people who want to see movies or go to restaurants at those 108 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,460 different times? 109 00:04:09,460 --> 00:04:10,741 They're not willing to pay as much. 110 00:04:10,741 --> 00:04:12,750 PROFESSOR: Yeah, they're basically people with a lot of 111 00:04:12,750 --> 00:04:14,400 free time on their hands. 112 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:14,940 Right? 113 00:04:14,940 --> 00:04:18,149 The people who are going out to dinner early, the people 114 00:04:18,149 --> 00:04:19,690 who see movies in the afternoon, these are people 115 00:04:19,690 --> 00:04:22,089 who are unemployed or have little kids. 116 00:04:22,089 --> 00:04:23,990 And they're just looking to kill time. 117 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:25,660 And so basically, these are people who 118 00:04:25,660 --> 00:04:27,590 are willing to shop. 119 00:04:27,590 --> 00:04:30,330 These are people who are going to say look, I've got to fill 120 00:04:30,330 --> 00:04:31,340 in some time. 121 00:04:31,340 --> 00:04:32,310 I don't have to go right now. 122 00:04:32,310 --> 00:04:33,480 I can go any time. 123 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,070 So I'm going to be more price sensitive. 124 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:37,715 The people who are going to dinner later, who are going 125 00:04:37,715 --> 00:04:39,410 out to the movie at night, they're working all day. 126 00:04:39,410 --> 00:04:40,230 They have no choice. 127 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:42,180 They have to see the movie at night. 128 00:04:42,180 --> 00:04:43,050 Or they're in school all day. 129 00:04:43,050 --> 00:04:44,410 They have to see the movie at night. 130 00:04:44,410 --> 00:04:47,280 They're less price elastic. 131 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:48,830 So that's why you want to set the movie 132 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:50,740 price higher at night. 133 00:04:50,740 --> 00:04:54,470 Alternatively, another reason could be-- 134 00:04:54,470 --> 00:04:56,270 One signal of willingness to pay is price sensitivity. 135 00:04:56,270 --> 00:04:57,520 What's another signal? 136 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,000 It's going to be income. 137 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,830 Who's going to be seeing the movies during the day and 138 00:05:00,830 --> 00:05:03,520 going to the dinner early? 139 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,520 It's elderly individuals and families with small kids who 140 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,320 are the most resource strapped. 141 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,840 People who have plenty of disposable income 142 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:11,540 are going at night. 143 00:05:11,540 --> 00:05:11,980 They're working. 144 00:05:11,980 --> 00:05:12,500 They're young. 145 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:13,920 They're singles and young couples. 146 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,120 They work all day or are in school all day. 147 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:15,920 They go at night. 148 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,710 They have more disposable income. 149 00:05:17,710 --> 00:05:20,300 The people going during the day are the elders and the 150 00:05:20,300 --> 00:05:22,640 people with young kids who have less disposable income. 151 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,750 And as a result they're going to be more price sensitive. 152 00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:26,690 So you want to charge them a lower price. 153 00:05:26,690 --> 00:05:29,240 So that's another example of price discrimination. 154 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,390 OK, why does Disney World charge you less if you live in 155 00:05:33,390 --> 00:05:37,360 the area than if you do not. 156 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,310 This is true fact. 157 00:05:38,310 --> 00:05:40,830 Disney World charges you less if you're from Orlando than if 158 00:05:40,830 --> 00:05:42,300 you're not from Orlando. 159 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:43,550 Why is that? 160 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,830 Someone tell me. 161 00:05:46,830 --> 00:05:47,060 Yeah. 162 00:05:47,060 --> 00:05:49,445 AUDIENCE: I think the Disney can go any time. 163 00:05:49,445 --> 00:05:53,976 So you might as well you might as well take 164 00:05:53,976 --> 00:05:56,600 them to other places. 165 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,480 PROFESSOR: I mean, basically the idea is look, if I just 166 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,210 spent a grand on a plane ticket to take my kids to 167 00:06:01,210 --> 00:06:05,150 Orlando to Disney World, I'm not going to kvetch over $10 168 00:06:05,150 --> 00:06:06,980 either way, getting in or not getting in. 169 00:06:06,980 --> 00:06:09,550 But if I live in the area, I may or may not go. 170 00:06:09,550 --> 00:06:10,620 I can go to a park, instead. 171 00:06:10,620 --> 00:06:11,820 I can go do something else, instead. 172 00:06:11,820 --> 00:06:14,110 It's just one of many choices for me. 173 00:06:14,110 --> 00:06:16,000 The point is, having paid the fixed cost of getting to 174 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,820 Orlando, I'm going to be much less price sensitive about 175 00:06:19,820 --> 00:06:22,090 getting into the park than other people who live there, 176 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:25,450 who have lots of other choices. 177 00:06:25,450 --> 00:06:27,390 Likewise, having paid the money to get there, I have 178 00:06:27,390 --> 00:06:29,270 shown I have more disposable income because I paid the 179 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:29,980 money to get there. 180 00:06:29,980 --> 00:06:31,660 I've shown I have enough disposable income that I'm 181 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:33,440 willing to drop money on a plane ticket to take my kids 182 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,340 to Disney World. 183 00:06:34,340 --> 00:06:35,942 So I'm going to have more income that we 184 00:06:35,942 --> 00:06:37,330 are willing to pay. 185 00:06:37,330 --> 00:06:40,560 OK, so basically the point is companies are 186 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,510 forever doing this. 187 00:06:42,510 --> 00:06:47,090 The ultimate example was, briefly, Amazon.com started 188 00:06:47,090 --> 00:06:49,470 pricing by IP address. 189 00:06:49,470 --> 00:06:51,820 For a while, it was a controversy over Amazon 190 00:06:51,820 --> 00:06:55,940 started literally charging, getting people's IP addresses 191 00:06:55,940 --> 00:06:58,337 and literally adjusting prices based on saying, oh, this 192 00:06:58,337 --> 00:06:59,660 person is from a university library. 193 00:06:59,660 --> 00:07:01,200 University libraries aren't price sensitive. 194 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,440 We'll charge them more, et cetera. 195 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,490 That got shut down. 196 00:07:05,490 --> 00:07:07,480 But that was the ultimate form of trying to be price 197 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,980 discriminatory. 198 00:07:08,980 --> 00:07:10,725 That was as close as we'll come to perfect price 199 00:07:10,725 --> 00:07:11,120 discrimination. 200 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,020 The point is, in general, people with market power, 201 00:07:14,020 --> 00:07:16,840 people that set the price above marginal cost will in 202 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,900 general be looking for parties which are high income and low 203 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:23,730 elasticity to which they can charge a higher price. 204 00:07:23,730 --> 00:07:24,010 Yeah. 205 00:07:24,010 --> 00:07:26,562 AUDIENCE: Another example, like MIT, they actually ask 206 00:07:26,562 --> 00:07:27,258 for your income statement. 207 00:07:27,258 --> 00:07:29,186 And then, based on that, they give you their price. 208 00:07:29,186 --> 00:07:31,420 PROFESSOR: Well, see that's very interesting. 209 00:07:31,420 --> 00:07:32,060 That's very interesting. 210 00:07:32,060 --> 00:07:33,480 MIT-- 211 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,780 What's tricky about that is-- 212 00:07:35,780 --> 00:07:37,660 Is that about exploiting price sensitivity? 213 00:07:37,660 --> 00:07:39,990 Or is that about equity? 214 00:07:39,990 --> 00:07:42,810 That's a bit harder because MIT could claim-- 215 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:44,770 And probably, actually, it's true. 216 00:07:44,770 --> 00:07:45,500 They're not doing it. 217 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:46,840 Because the truth is, MIT could charge 218 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:47,530 whatever they want. 219 00:07:47,530 --> 00:07:48,400 They'd still fill the class. 220 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:49,020 Right? 221 00:07:49,020 --> 00:07:50,570 So it's not really about-- 222 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:52,530 I think in MIT's case, it's not really about price 223 00:07:52,530 --> 00:07:53,450 sensitivity. 224 00:07:53,450 --> 00:07:55,990 It's about income redistribution and some notion 225 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:57,540 of making sure low income people can come and 226 00:07:57,540 --> 00:07:58,540 afford to be here. 227 00:07:58,540 --> 00:07:59,700 But that is a good point. 228 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:03,140 The difficulty with empirical economics is often, 229 00:08:03,140 --> 00:08:04,480 correlation versus causation. 230 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,580 The same fact can have many different descriptions, many 231 00:08:07,580 --> 00:08:09,440 different explanations. 232 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,420 OK? 233 00:08:10,420 --> 00:08:12,980 So just wanted to give you some brief examples to think 234 00:08:12,980 --> 00:08:15,460 about the fact that we see price discrimination in 235 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:16,590 reality all the time. 236 00:08:16,590 --> 00:08:19,060 Nonetheless, we do our classic monopoly model. 237 00:08:19,060 --> 00:08:21,010 We assume there's one price. 238 00:08:21,010 --> 00:08:23,370 And the truth is the one price monopolist is probably closer 239 00:08:23,370 --> 00:08:25,180 to the truth than the perfectly price discriminating 240 00:08:25,180 --> 00:08:27,800 monopolist. But the truth, as often in this course, is going 241 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,800 to be somewhere in between. 242 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,580 OK, questions about that. 243 00:08:32,580 --> 00:08:35,230 What I want to focus on primarily, for this lecture, 244 00:08:35,230 --> 00:08:39,299 is where do monopolies come from. 245 00:08:39,299 --> 00:08:40,539 How do monopolies arrive? 246 00:08:40,539 --> 00:08:43,789 How do we end up in this situation, where instead of 247 00:08:43,789 --> 00:08:47,810 many firms competing to sell a good, we only have one? 248 00:08:47,810 --> 00:08:52,570 And there's basically two sources of monopolies, two 249 00:08:52,570 --> 00:08:53,600 sources that give birth to 250 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,260 monopolies in modern societies. 251 00:08:57,260 --> 00:09:01,505 The first source is cost advantages. 252 00:09:08,140 --> 00:09:10,260 The first source is cost advantages. 253 00:09:10,260 --> 00:09:15,790 Some markets come with natural cost advantages, natural 254 00:09:15,790 --> 00:09:19,970 reasons why there's a benefit to being one 255 00:09:19,970 --> 00:09:21,950 player in the market. 256 00:09:21,950 --> 00:09:25,040 So for example, it could be that there's, essentially, 257 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,260 only one usable input. 258 00:09:28,260 --> 00:09:30,940 So let's say there's a rock quarry in town. 259 00:09:30,940 --> 00:09:32,130 You've got to get rocks from. 260 00:09:32,130 --> 00:09:33,720 And there's just one rock quarry. 261 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,360 And rocks are really expensive to transport. 262 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,160 So basically, if you live in that town, the person who owns 263 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,620 that rock quarry is going to be the monopolist. No one else 264 00:09:41,620 --> 00:09:43,390 is really going to compete because it would cost them so 265 00:09:43,390 --> 00:09:45,290 much to transport rocks from another 266 00:09:45,290 --> 00:09:47,210 quarry in another town. 267 00:09:47,210 --> 00:09:48,270 OK? 268 00:09:48,270 --> 00:09:50,080 Basically, the point is. 269 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,340 Sometimes, there are these fixed costs. 270 00:09:53,340 --> 00:09:57,420 And whoever has paid the fixed cost has an enormous natural 271 00:09:57,420 --> 00:10:00,040 advantage over other players, over other 272 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,740 entrants to the markets. 273 00:10:01,740 --> 00:10:04,315 And we call those natural monopolies. 274 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:12,470 Natural monopolies-- 275 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:18,300 Natural monopoly is a firm where for all the relevant 276 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:23,580 quantities over any relevant range, the average cost for 277 00:10:23,580 --> 00:10:29,190 one firm is always below the average cost of a new entrant. 278 00:10:29,190 --> 00:10:32,230 The average cost for the one firm that's in the market is 279 00:10:32,230 --> 00:10:34,490 already always going to be below the average cost for any 280 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:36,670 new entrant. 281 00:10:36,670 --> 00:10:40,580 And that is going to be true in markets with very large 282 00:10:40,580 --> 00:10:45,140 fixed costs and very small marginal costs. 283 00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:48,440 A natural monopoly will occur when there's very large fixed 284 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:54,340 cost and very small marginal cost. In that case, what we'll 285 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:59,650 see is average cost is always declining. 286 00:10:59,650 --> 00:11:02,160 Natural monopolies arise when average 287 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,680 cost is always declining. 288 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:05,990 If average cost is always declining, it's never going to 289 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:10,330 make sense for another entrant to come in the market. 290 00:11:10,330 --> 00:11:13,400 And an example we could think of-- 291 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,400 The best example I could think is like a water utility, the 292 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,210 folks who deliver water to our houses. 293 00:11:19,210 --> 00:11:21,570 The fixed costs of delivering water are enormous. 294 00:11:21,570 --> 00:11:24,490 You've got to lay the pipe to deliver the water 295 00:11:24,490 --> 00:11:25,790 all through the town. 296 00:11:25,790 --> 00:11:27,890 Those are enormous fixed costs. 297 00:11:27,890 --> 00:11:28,965 The marginal costs are trivial. 298 00:11:28,965 --> 00:11:29,930 I mean, water is cheap. 299 00:11:29,930 --> 00:11:30,440 You get the water. 300 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,380 You send it through the pipes. 301 00:11:32,380 --> 00:11:33,280 OK? 302 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,360 It would never make sense to have two companies deliver 303 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,896 water throughout the town. 304 00:11:37,896 --> 00:11:40,900 It wouldn't make sense to have another company come in, rip 305 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:43,750 up the roads, lay a competing set of pipes all through the 306 00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:46,840 town to compete. 307 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,040 It just wouldn't make sense because those fixed costs are 308 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,990 so huge relative to the marginal costs. 309 00:11:50,990 --> 00:11:52,350 They could never make money. 310 00:11:52,350 --> 00:11:53,700 That first company-- 311 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:56,390 If a second company came in and threatened to do that, the 312 00:11:56,390 --> 00:11:59,100 first company could always keep the price low enough that 313 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:00,350 that second company could never 314 00:12:00,350 --> 00:12:02,510 recover their fixed costs. 315 00:12:02,510 --> 00:12:04,740 Because the first company has already paid the fixed cost, 316 00:12:04,740 --> 00:12:06,350 they're already in. 317 00:12:06,350 --> 00:12:07,980 A second company could never come in and 318 00:12:07,980 --> 00:12:09,280 cover those fixed costs. 319 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,380 So if we see figure 15-1. 320 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:18,380 Here's an example of a firm, of a water utility, low 321 00:12:18,380 --> 00:12:21,180 marginal cost. There was a high fixed cost. So the 322 00:12:21,180 --> 00:12:23,410 initial average costs are very high. 323 00:12:23,410 --> 00:12:25,930 But the average costs are declining constantly because 324 00:12:25,930 --> 00:12:29,020 the marginal costs are low, relative to fixed costs. 325 00:12:29,020 --> 00:12:30,950 OK? 326 00:12:30,950 --> 00:12:35,340 So if demand for the good goes up, over some relevant range-- 327 00:12:35,340 --> 00:12:37,840 If demand gets to be infinite, it may make sense to lay 328 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:38,830 another set of pipes. 329 00:12:38,830 --> 00:12:41,350 You know, the first set of pipes may get overwhelmed. 330 00:12:41,350 --> 00:12:43,760 But as long as demand can be met by the set of pipes that's 331 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:49,070 been laid, there's absolutely no reason for another firm to 332 00:12:49,070 --> 00:12:50,510 enter this market. 333 00:12:50,510 --> 00:12:53,000 If another firm ever threatened to do so, the first 334 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,236 firm would just lower price and say, look, you're going to 335 00:12:55,236 --> 00:12:58,010 have to spend so much money putting that set of pipes in 336 00:12:58,010 --> 00:13:00,590 through town you'll never be able to make it up. 337 00:13:00,590 --> 00:13:02,500 Because having laid those set of pipes-- 338 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:05,730 Remember what the shut down condition is. 339 00:13:05,730 --> 00:13:08,320 As long as that first firm can charge price greater than 340 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,060 marginal, can charge price above average variable cost, 341 00:13:11,060 --> 00:13:13,460 which is marginal cost in this case. 342 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:15,060 As long as that firm can charge price above marginal 343 00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:17,760 cost, it will always stay in business. 344 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,560 And that second firm can't make any money at a price near 345 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:23,100 the marginal cost because they can't cover their fixed cost. 346 00:13:23,100 --> 00:13:25,470 So they'll essentially chase them out. 347 00:13:25,470 --> 00:13:27,920 So essentially, the fact that they've had that set of pipes 348 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,910 already laid down gives them a threat, a credible threat, 349 00:13:32,910 --> 00:13:37,270 that that second firm cannot enter. 350 00:13:37,270 --> 00:13:40,380 Thus, we call natural monopolies are places where 351 00:13:40,380 --> 00:13:43,920 other firms face barriers to entry. 352 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,630 Natural monopolies are where there are barriers to entry, 353 00:13:46,630 --> 00:13:50,630 where other firms cannot enter because they'd have to pay 354 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:51,930 those enormous fixed costs. 355 00:13:51,930 --> 00:13:56,180 And it would never make economic sense to do so. 356 00:13:56,180 --> 00:13:56,660 OK. 357 00:13:56,660 --> 00:14:00,050 And in that case, you're going to get a monopoly. 358 00:14:00,050 --> 00:14:02,840 And we call it a natural monopoly because, in some 359 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,910 sense, the monopoly is the right thing to do. 360 00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:08,660 It is actually economically efficient for there to be only 361 00:14:08,660 --> 00:14:11,260 one provider of water in the town. 362 00:14:11,260 --> 00:14:12,380 That's the economically efficient outcome. 363 00:14:12,380 --> 00:14:16,020 It is economically inefficient to pay a second set of those 364 00:14:16,020 --> 00:14:17,930 enormous fixed costs. 365 00:14:17,930 --> 00:14:21,410 Now, then you say, well what about the fact that monopolist 366 00:14:21,410 --> 00:14:23,220 will under produce water, charge too much. 367 00:14:23,220 --> 00:14:25,360 We'll get to that in a minute. 368 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,090 But when there's natural monopolies, the goods should 369 00:14:29,090 --> 00:14:30,080 be delivered by a monopoly. 370 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,050 That's the right thing to do. 371 00:14:32,050 --> 00:14:36,330 But there's a second reason why monopolies arise, which is 372 00:14:36,330 --> 00:14:39,040 a little more pernicious, which is government actions. 373 00:14:44,830 --> 00:14:48,680 Sometimes monopolies are unnatural and created by the 374 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,940 government. 375 00:14:50,940 --> 00:14:54,510 So a classic example is when governments actually decide 376 00:14:54,510 --> 00:14:56,350 that they're going to deliver a good and only they'll 377 00:14:56,350 --> 00:14:59,980 deliver the good, like the postal service. 378 00:14:59,980 --> 00:15:03,040 When a government decides look, we are just going to 379 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,040 deliver this good. 380 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,040 We're just going to have the postal service. 381 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,450 And for many, many years, if you wanted to send a package 382 00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:11,000 from one place to another, you had to do it through the 383 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,980 postal service. 384 00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:14,160 Well, it turned out of course, that 385 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,870 wasn't a natural monopoly. 386 00:15:15,870 --> 00:15:19,220 As we know through the growth of FedEx and others, there was 387 00:15:19,220 --> 00:15:21,820 actually quite a good distance to compete in that market. 388 00:15:21,820 --> 00:15:24,290 And eventually, those other folks delivering packages came 389 00:15:24,290 --> 00:15:27,420 in and competed in that market. 390 00:15:27,420 --> 00:15:32,470 And in fact, in the US, it's very rare to have a government 391 00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:35,630 provided good, a purely government provided good. 392 00:15:35,630 --> 00:15:37,900 It's very rare. 393 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:39,300 Historically, it wasn't. 394 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,100 And in many other parts of the world, it's not. 395 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:42,790 In many other parts of the world, governments run the 396 00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:46,860 banks, the airlines, all utilities. 397 00:15:46,860 --> 00:15:48,560 So in many other parts of the world, governments will 398 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,830 actually set up these monopolies 399 00:15:50,830 --> 00:15:53,180 through government action. 400 00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:56,350 And basically, that is something which is not done 401 00:15:56,350 --> 00:15:59,080 much in the US but done elsewhere. 402 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,520 Now however, one place we do set up monopolies in the US, 403 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,210 which is pretty important, is through 404 00:16:04,210 --> 00:16:05,663 the issuing of patents. 405 00:16:09,570 --> 00:16:16,220 If you invent, say a new drug, and you patent it. 406 00:16:16,220 --> 00:16:18,760 You then have the exclusive right to sell that chemical 407 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,110 compound for 17 years. 408 00:16:22,110 --> 00:16:24,860 So if you come up with some new chemical compound to treat 409 00:16:24,860 --> 00:16:29,380 whatever, you have the exclusive right to market that 410 00:16:29,380 --> 00:16:32,830 chemical compound for 17 years. 411 00:16:32,830 --> 00:16:35,430 That is a government sanctioned monopoly. 412 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,480 Now, is that a good thing or a bad thing? 413 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,610 Are patents-- 414 00:16:44,610 --> 00:16:46,820 The government has just created a monopoly. 415 00:16:46,820 --> 00:16:49,020 Could someone tell me why that might be actually a good thing 416 00:16:49,020 --> 00:16:50,400 for the government to do? 417 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:50,600 Yeah. 418 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,025 AUDIENCE: Schumpeter talks about how it's a way to cause 419 00:16:53,025 --> 00:16:53,246 innovation. 420 00:16:53,246 --> 00:16:54,916 Because no one would put that many dollars into drug 421 00:16:54,916 --> 00:16:56,392 research, if they weren't going to be 422 00:16:56,392 --> 00:16:57,130 able to make money. 423 00:16:57,130 --> 00:17:00,082 Because the marginal cost was so low that other people-- 424 00:17:00,082 --> 00:17:02,050 The cost of establishing a pharmaceutical company 425 00:17:02,050 --> 00:17:04,018 [UNINTELLIGIBLE] is really low. 426 00:17:04,018 --> 00:17:06,314 So other people would come and cut out all their 427 00:17:06,314 --> 00:17:06,970 profits that they had. 428 00:17:06,970 --> 00:17:09,829 PROFESSOR: Exactly, if you put all these resources into 429 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:12,550 inventing a drug, it's not like laying pipes. 430 00:17:12,550 --> 00:17:14,670 Once you invented it, someone could just copy it the next 431 00:17:14,670 --> 00:17:17,069 day and produce it at the same cost you can. 432 00:17:17,069 --> 00:17:18,930 So why would you ever do that? 433 00:17:18,930 --> 00:17:21,660 Why would you, as someone who, even if you cared about the 434 00:17:21,660 --> 00:17:23,819 benefits to the world, still want to make some money. 435 00:17:23,819 --> 00:17:26,170 Why would you spend billions and millions of dollars 436 00:17:26,170 --> 00:17:27,230 inventing these new drugs? 437 00:17:27,230 --> 00:17:28,760 If the next day, someone else can just say, 438 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:29,260 that's a great idea. 439 00:17:29,260 --> 00:17:32,190 I'll produce that for $0.47 a pill, just like you will. 440 00:17:32,190 --> 00:17:33,300 And you won't make any money off it. 441 00:17:33,300 --> 00:17:35,550 And you'll have lost all this money you invested. 442 00:17:35,550 --> 00:17:39,060 So the argument for patents is you want an incentive for 443 00:17:39,060 --> 00:17:42,040 innovation, which suggests there's a trade-off here. 444 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,170 On the one hand, you want an incentive for innovation. 445 00:17:45,170 --> 00:17:48,210 On the other hand, once you create this monopoly, they can 446 00:17:48,210 --> 00:17:50,510 charge outrageous prices. 447 00:17:50,510 --> 00:17:51,480 There is a drug. 448 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,270 There are drugs. 449 00:17:52,270 --> 00:17:55,290 Genzyme is very big company started here in Massachusetts. 450 00:17:55,290 --> 00:17:59,510 And the whole reason they exist is to create drugs for 451 00:17:59,510 --> 00:18:01,250 very, very rare diseases. 452 00:18:01,250 --> 00:18:02,950 Diseases that strike like 100,000 people a 453 00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:05,410 year but are deadly. 454 00:18:05,410 --> 00:18:08,100 Like Gaucher's disease is a famous example of this one. 455 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:09,270 So they create these drugs. 456 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:11,190 They put billions of dollars into research, 457 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:12,960 create these drugs. 458 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,100 And then, having created them and gotten a patent, charge 459 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:18,350 like $100,000 a year to use the drugs. 460 00:18:18,350 --> 00:18:22,310 Drugs that cost, you know, $500 a year to produce. 461 00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:25,770 Now on the one hand, if these drugs didn't exist, 462 00:18:25,770 --> 00:18:26,930 people would die. 463 00:18:26,930 --> 00:18:29,060 These are literally lifesaving drugs. 464 00:18:29,060 --> 00:18:31,930 These are people who used to die, who now live because of 465 00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:34,060 these drugs. 466 00:18:34,060 --> 00:18:36,710 And these drugs never would have been invented if Genzyme 467 00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:38,660 couldn't have made some money off them. 468 00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:40,910 On the other hand, you've got a product which costs $500 a 469 00:18:40,910 --> 00:18:44,500 year to make, and they're charging $100,000 a year to 470 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:46,200 people to use. 471 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,100 And in particular, when it comes to drugs like for 472 00:18:48,100 --> 00:18:52,250 treating AIDS in the developed world where people cannot-- 473 00:18:52,250 --> 00:18:54,240 There's no way they can afford that kind of money. 474 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,030 That's a problem. 475 00:18:55,030 --> 00:18:55,529 Yeah. 476 00:18:55,529 --> 00:18:58,148 AUDIENCE: But aren't you not only paying for them to 477 00:18:58,148 --> 00:18:59,521 produce the drug but paying for all the 478 00:18:59,521 --> 00:19:01,180 research that went into-- 479 00:19:01,180 --> 00:19:02,860 PROFESSOR: Exactly, that's right. 480 00:19:02,860 --> 00:19:03,690 You're paying for all the research. 481 00:19:03,690 --> 00:19:04,570 That's why they never would have 482 00:19:04,570 --> 00:19:05,760 invented it if they couldn't. 483 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,350 So you're paying for the research. 484 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:09,460 They also take home a nice, hefty profit at 485 00:19:09,460 --> 00:19:10,350 the end of the day. 486 00:19:10,350 --> 00:19:11,480 But that is true. 487 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,390 You are also paying for the research that goes into that. 488 00:19:13,390 --> 00:19:15,120 And people wouldn't put that money up front. 489 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,090 That research is funded by investors. 490 00:19:17,090 --> 00:19:19,303 And investors would not invest in Genzyme and give them money 491 00:19:19,303 --> 00:19:21,590 to do research if they weren't going to get a return. 492 00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:22,660 So if Genzyme-- 493 00:19:22,660 --> 00:19:26,920 Of that $99,500 Genzyme makes on that Gaucher's disease 494 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,260 drug, most of it is going back to pay the people who funded 495 00:19:30,260 --> 00:19:31,040 the research. 496 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,170 But a healthy chunk is not. 497 00:19:32,170 --> 00:19:35,750 A healthy chunk is market power monopoly profit. 498 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:36,070 Yeah. 499 00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:39,320 AUDIENCE: Could the government then have subsidies for some 500 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,570 types of licensing to ensure that the consumers are not 501 00:19:42,570 --> 00:19:44,902 affected because everyone cannot afford the 502 00:19:44,902 --> 00:19:45,570 drug without it. 503 00:19:45,570 --> 00:19:48,500 PROFESSOR: I'm going to come to that in a second. 504 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:50,770 Now actually, let me just hold that thought for a second 505 00:19:50,770 --> 00:19:52,710 because I want to actually show you how we think about 506 00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:54,490 whether patent is a good idea or not. 507 00:19:54,490 --> 00:19:56,320 So let's go to figure 15-2. 508 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,400 I just want to, sort of, show you how what you guys seem to 509 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,980 understand intuitively, we can illustrate in the kind of 510 00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:03,850 graphs we've been using. 511 00:20:03,850 --> 00:20:05,580 Once again, we want to think about going back and forth 512 00:20:05,580 --> 00:20:08,230 between the intuition and the graphical and mathematical 513 00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:10,050 aspects of this stuff. 514 00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:15,120 So here we have a monopolist. Imagine that you have a good 515 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:18,700 where the original demand curve is D1. 516 00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:21,470 A good where the original demand curve is D1 and the 517 00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:26,490 original consumer surplus is that dotted area C plus 1 plus 518 00:20:26,490 --> 00:20:27,990 that slashed triangle. 519 00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:31,960 So it's based on the area above the competitive price PC 520 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,900 under the demand curve D1. 521 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,050 So you have a good. 522 00:20:35,050 --> 00:20:37,480 It's some drug, which people like. 523 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,910 And there's some demand for it. 524 00:20:38,910 --> 00:20:41,890 And it's produced competitively at a price PC 525 00:20:41,890 --> 00:20:44,340 with the consumer surplus of that triangle. 526 00:20:44,340 --> 00:20:47,730 Now, let's say a monopolist comes along and says, we can 527 00:20:47,730 --> 00:20:50,290 make this drug way better. 528 00:20:50,290 --> 00:20:52,070 We could make a much better drug, but we're going to need 529 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:53,260 a patent for it. 530 00:20:53,260 --> 00:20:54,510 Well, two things happen. 531 00:20:54,510 --> 00:20:58,530 On the one hand, the demand curve shifts way out. 532 00:20:58,530 --> 00:21:01,360 Now you've got something which people value a lot more. 533 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:04,430 They're much more willing to pay for this better drug. 534 00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:05,240 OK? 535 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,540 And that's the benefit. 536 00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:10,100 That's the innovation effect on demand. 537 00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:12,370 On the other hand, the price goes up to the 538 00:21:12,370 --> 00:21:14,930 monopolist's price. 539 00:21:14,930 --> 00:21:17,386 Where marginal revenue equals marginal cost, they're going 540 00:21:17,386 --> 00:21:21,930 to produce at Q sub m and charge a higher price P sub m. 541 00:21:21,930 --> 00:21:23,770 Whereas, if this is a perfectly competitive firm, 542 00:21:23,770 --> 00:21:27,930 they produce much more, where D2 hits the marginal cost and 543 00:21:27,930 --> 00:21:31,260 consumer surplus would be much larger. 544 00:21:31,260 --> 00:21:35,830 So the trade off is, on the one hand, you end up here. 545 00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:38,750 In this case I've drawn, you end up with a larger consumer 546 00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:41,890 surplus, even with monopoly. 547 00:21:41,890 --> 00:21:45,300 But you could imagine drawing the same graph, in the case 548 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:47,110 where consumer surplus falls. 549 00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:49,540 You can imagine demand doesn't go up that much. 550 00:21:49,540 --> 00:21:52,380 But the monopolist gets the monopoly price. 551 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:54,390 And you could imagine drawing this triangle such that the 552 00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:56,330 new consumer surplus triangle is smaller than the old 553 00:21:56,330 --> 00:21:58,010 consumer surplus triangle. 554 00:21:58,010 --> 00:21:59,080 OK? 555 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,790 So it's not obvious which way this goes. 556 00:22:00,790 --> 00:22:01,580 You have two effects. 557 00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:04,900 On the one hand, you have the effect that demand shifts out. 558 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:08,110 That creates a potential for more social surplus. 559 00:22:08,110 --> 00:22:10,400 On the other hand, you have the case that the monopolist 560 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,500 artificially prices too high. 561 00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:14,670 That causes a reduction in social surplus. 562 00:22:14,670 --> 00:22:17,120 In this case, the former dominated the latter. 563 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,170 But I hope you can see you can draw this in cases where that 564 00:22:19,170 --> 00:22:20,750 wouldn't be true. 565 00:22:20,750 --> 00:22:23,520 And that's the tricky thing with patents. 566 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,800 It's going to depend. 567 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,230 If you're patenting something which is really demand 568 00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:28,480 increasing, that's great. 569 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,070 But if you're patenting something which is just a 570 00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:33,090 copycat of something that exists and all you're doing is 571 00:22:33,090 --> 00:22:34,130 turning a competitive market-- 572 00:22:34,130 --> 00:22:36,430 In the limit, imagine I somehow snookered the 573 00:22:36,430 --> 00:22:39,570 government into giving me a patent for something which 574 00:22:39,570 --> 00:22:42,690 literally does no more than what's existed. 575 00:22:42,690 --> 00:22:44,830 But somehow I could fool-- 576 00:22:44,830 --> 00:22:46,840 In that case, have to do a little more or people wouldn't 577 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,945 buy it, just a little more than what existed. 578 00:22:48,945 --> 00:22:50,350 It wouldn't increase demand much. 579 00:22:50,350 --> 00:22:57,830 But I would then have these monopoly rents. 580 00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:58,430 OK? 581 00:22:58,430 --> 00:23:02,250 So that's basically the trade off with patents. 582 00:23:02,250 --> 00:23:05,430 All right, question about that. 583 00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:07,830 Now, let me move on then and talk about-- 584 00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:09,030 The question was raised about-- 585 00:23:09,030 --> 00:23:12,090 Well, couldn't the government do something about this, in 586 00:23:12,090 --> 00:23:13,520 terms of trying to address this problem. 587 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,100 And we just talked about the government as bad guy in 588 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:16,960 creating this problem. 589 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,170 Although, it's not necessarily a problem 590 00:23:18,170 --> 00:23:19,740 in the case of patents. 591 00:23:19,740 --> 00:23:21,890 But there's also the role of government as potential good 592 00:23:21,890 --> 00:23:25,990 guy, which is can the government help in this case 593 00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:27,480 of natural monopoly? 594 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,780 So natural monopoly, we've got this awkward situation where 595 00:23:30,780 --> 00:23:32,150 clearly a monopoly makes sense. 596 00:23:32,150 --> 00:23:33,980 It doesn't make sense to have competitive people delivering 597 00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:35,330 water in town. 598 00:23:35,330 --> 00:23:37,990 But once you've got one person delivering water, they'll 599 00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:41,400 charge you a fortune for it, well above marginal cost. And 600 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,090 that's inefficient. 601 00:23:42,090 --> 00:23:45,700 That lowers social surplus relative to the optimal level 602 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:47,650 of provision. 603 00:23:47,650 --> 00:23:50,600 So can the government solve this problem? 604 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,730 Could the government, for example, come in and say look, 605 00:23:54,730 --> 00:23:56,340 we recognize there's a natural monopoly. 606 00:23:56,340 --> 00:23:59,410 We recognize that you, Rubrico, are the only company 607 00:23:59,410 --> 00:24:00,690 that makes sense to deliver water. 608 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:05,210 But we are going to regulate you in a way to maximize the 609 00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:07,890 social surplus, given that natural monopoly. 610 00:24:07,890 --> 00:24:09,450 So to see that, let's go to the highly 611 00:24:09,450 --> 00:24:11,510 complicated figure 15-3. 612 00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:12,870 OK, we'll have to walk through this slowly. 613 00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:15,040 It's a lot of stuff going on here at once. 614 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,340 OK? 615 00:24:17,340 --> 00:24:17,800 15-3. 616 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,750 We're back to the usual curves we were using last time. 617 00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:24,080 The demand curve is P equals 24 minus Q. 618 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,510 The cost curve is 12 plus Q squared. 619 00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:30,160 So the marginal cost is just 2Q. 620 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,980 The competitive outcome was to produce eight units 621 00:24:33,980 --> 00:24:37,170 at a price of 16. 622 00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:39,450 The monopoly outcome was to produce six units 623 00:24:39,450 --> 00:24:42,210 at a price of 18. 624 00:24:42,210 --> 00:24:43,210 OK? 625 00:24:43,210 --> 00:24:47,130 And you ended up with the monopolist causing a 626 00:24:47,130 --> 00:24:51,670 deadweight loss of C plus E. That was where we were last 627 00:24:51,670 --> 00:24:53,362 time in this example. 628 00:24:53,362 --> 00:24:55,980 And let's say this was a natural monopoly. 629 00:24:55,980 --> 00:24:58,610 So that's why there's a monopolist there. 630 00:24:58,610 --> 00:25:04,460 Now, what if the government came in and mandated that the 631 00:25:04,460 --> 00:25:09,540 monopolist can charge no more than the competitive price? 632 00:25:09,540 --> 00:25:10,550 Let's say the government knew what the 633 00:25:10,550 --> 00:25:11,300 competitive price was. 634 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:13,490 The government says, look, I took 14.01. 635 00:25:13,490 --> 00:25:14,320 I see this graph. 636 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,560 I know the competitive price is 16. 637 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,000 So I'm going to say, monopolist-- 638 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,390 You're the monopolist. You go ahead. 639 00:25:19,390 --> 00:25:21,180 And no one else can deliver water. 640 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:22,350 It makes sense for you to do it. 641 00:25:22,350 --> 00:25:26,510 But I'm going to regulate that you cannot charge consumers a 642 00:25:26,510 --> 00:25:29,670 price above 16. 643 00:25:29,670 --> 00:25:33,730 What you can see in that case, is the government will turn 644 00:25:33,730 --> 00:25:38,580 the monopolist from a price maker to a price taker. 645 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:41,620 And in doing so, the government will undo the 646 00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:44,810 poisoning effect we talked about last time and cause the 647 00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:48,720 monopolist to behave as if it was a competitive firm. 648 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,860 So to see that, we have to ask, well what's the marginal 649 00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:57,310 revenue curve now for the monopolist, given this 650 00:25:57,310 --> 00:26:01,930 government mandate that it can charge no more than 16? 651 00:26:01,930 --> 00:26:06,650 Well, the marginal revenue curve, up to the point it 652 00:26:06,650 --> 00:26:09,790 sells six, is the old marginal revenue curve. 653 00:26:09,790 --> 00:26:11,570 So we're working down this marginal revenue curve. 654 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:13,540 And up to that point, where marginal revenue intersects 655 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:17,910 marginal cost, that's the marginal revenue curve. 656 00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:21,480 And that's where the monopolist would stop. 657 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,980 But the problem is the monopolist isn't actually able 658 00:26:23,980 --> 00:26:26,290 to charge more than 16. 659 00:26:26,290 --> 00:26:29,570 So now, if it's charging 16, now it asks itself well, 660 00:26:29,570 --> 00:26:32,130 should I produce that seventh unit. 661 00:26:32,130 --> 00:26:34,210 Remember last time we did the math. 662 00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:36,770 The monopolist should not produce the seventh unit. 663 00:26:36,770 --> 00:26:38,590 Because last time we showed that, because of that 664 00:26:38,590 --> 00:26:41,785 poisoning effect, profits would fall if it produced that 665 00:26:41,785 --> 00:26:42,840 seventh unit. 666 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,910 But now it's not true because now it's only charging 16. 667 00:26:46,910 --> 00:26:50,300 So if it's charging 16, and if it produces that seventh unit, 668 00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:52,380 it's still going to charge 16. 669 00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:55,270 The poisoning effect has gone away. 670 00:26:55,270 --> 00:26:56,620 There's no more poisoning effect. 671 00:26:56,620 --> 00:26:58,990 There's no loss to producing the seventh unit because the 672 00:26:58,990 --> 00:27:00,040 most it can get is 16. 673 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,240 It would like to price it much higher. 674 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,470 It can't. 675 00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:11,780 Since the most it can price at is 16 he says, well gee, then 676 00:27:11,780 --> 00:27:12,640 there's no poisoning effect. 677 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,390 I might as well produce at the competitive level. 678 00:27:17,390 --> 00:27:19,900 And basically, what you can see is if you tell the 679 00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:22,130 monopolist they can't charge more than the competitive 680 00:27:22,130 --> 00:27:25,810 price, then they will produce at the competitive level. 681 00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:28,820 And you'll end up at that competitive outcome, even with 682 00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:31,240 a monopolist, because that will be the profit maximizing 683 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,770 thing for the monopolist to do. 684 00:27:34,770 --> 00:27:38,130 So sounds like we've got a pretty good solution here. 685 00:27:38,130 --> 00:27:38,720 Right? 686 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,020 If there's a natural monopoly, we just come in and say you 687 00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:45,470 can't charge more than the competitive price. 688 00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:47,520 So in theory, government can fix this. 689 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,250 We've been talking about government as a bad guy. 690 00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:50,590 Here's government as a good guy. 691 00:27:50,590 --> 00:27:52,160 Government can come in and fix this. 692 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,180 What's the problem with that? 693 00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:55,890 What's the problem, in practice, with carrying out 694 00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:58,588 what I just laid out here in theory? 695 00:27:58,588 --> 00:27:59,084 Yeah. 696 00:27:59,084 --> 00:28:00,696 AUDIENCE: How does the government know what the 697 00:28:00,696 --> 00:28:01,068 competitive price is? 698 00:28:01,068 --> 00:28:02,458 PROFESSOR: How does the government know what the 699 00:28:02,458 --> 00:28:03,170 competitive price is? 700 00:28:03,170 --> 00:28:06,590 How does the government know what these curves look like? 701 00:28:06,590 --> 00:28:08,590 Now, let's think about both curves. 702 00:28:08,590 --> 00:28:10,170 OK, first the government needs to know-- 703 00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:11,630 If it wants to know the competitive price, it's got to 704 00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:14,260 know the demand curve and the supply curve. 705 00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:16,910 Well the demand curve, in principle, the government 706 00:28:16,910 --> 00:28:17,370 could learn. 707 00:28:17,370 --> 00:28:20,010 The government could go out and survey people and get a 708 00:28:20,010 --> 00:28:22,820 sense of kind of, could collect some data, could run 709 00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:24,670 some experiments and try to find out from people. 710 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:27,200 Gee, how much are you willing to pay for another unit, 711 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,460 another unit, another unit? 712 00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:30,250 So in principle, the government could actually 713 00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:33,160 measure demand curve by doing market research. 714 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,020 Although in practice, this is quite hard. 715 00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:38,100 It turns out in practice-- 716 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:41,580 The first rule of economics is believe what people do, not 717 00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:42,670 what they say. 718 00:28:42,670 --> 00:28:44,760 Turns out, if you ask people what they're willing to pay, 719 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,640 you get very silly answers, relative to actually do it. 720 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,470 So for example, this comes up a lot in when the government 721 00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:52,930 needs to value environmental damage. 722 00:28:52,930 --> 00:28:57,590 So if we need to ask how much should we charge BP for the 723 00:28:57,590 --> 00:29:01,830 damage they did to the Gulf, we need to value how sad are 724 00:29:01,830 --> 00:29:04,820 people that the wetlands are ruined. 725 00:29:04,820 --> 00:29:07,100 Well, the only thing to do is to ask people. 726 00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:07,930 And it turns out when you do that, you get 727 00:29:07,930 --> 00:29:09,510 incredibly silly answers. 728 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:11,815 Things like, for example, if you ask people how sorry are 729 00:29:11,815 --> 00:29:14,820 you if 10 ducks died, they'll say I'm this sad. 730 00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:16,560 Say how sad are you if a million ducks died? 731 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,290 They'll say, I'm the same amount sad. 732 00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:19,820 OK, that doesn't make sense. 733 00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:23,240 You ask people what's it worth to save a duck 734 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,790 versus saving a whale. 735 00:29:25,790 --> 00:29:27,660 And you ask in that order, they'll say saving a duck is 736 00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:30,460 worth $100, saving a whale is worth $100. 737 00:29:30,460 --> 00:29:31,830 Or it's worth $150. 738 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:32,650 You ask the other order. 739 00:29:32,650 --> 00:29:33,870 You say, how much is it worth to save a 740 00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:34,940 whale and then a duck. 741 00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:36,310 Well then, saving a whale is worth $300. 742 00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:38,690 And a duck's only worth $50, same question 743 00:29:38,690 --> 00:29:40,640 just a different order. 744 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,900 People do not give sensible answers when you ask them what 745 00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:43,760 things are worth. 746 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,640 The best way to know is to actually vary the price, is to 747 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,770 actually run experiments where you actually say, OK, we have 748 00:29:50,770 --> 00:29:52,580 to actually give people different prices and see how 749 00:29:52,580 --> 00:29:56,460 they behave, actually trace out the demand curve. 750 00:29:56,460 --> 00:29:59,210 That turns out to be very hard to do, especially for things 751 00:29:59,210 --> 00:30:00,960 like valuing damage to wetlands. 752 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,380 But even for things like valuing prescription drugs, 753 00:30:03,380 --> 00:30:04,550 you've got to literally-- 754 00:30:04,550 --> 00:30:07,480 It's hard to run the experiment where, literally, I 755 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,710 give you a different price than you for a 756 00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:09,890 prescription drug. 757 00:30:09,890 --> 00:30:10,900 That's a little bit tricky. 758 00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:12,080 So it's hard to get the demand curve. 759 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,870 So that's the first problem the government faces. 760 00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:17,740 But in some sense, that's the less difficult problem. 761 00:30:17,740 --> 00:30:19,230 It is tracing out the demand curve. 762 00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:20,720 In principle, there are ways to do it. 763 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,450 In principle, you could run experiments where you vary the 764 00:30:22,450 --> 00:30:25,620 price and you get that demand curve. 765 00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:29,860 In practice, the difficulty is firm supply 766 00:30:29,860 --> 00:30:31,060 curves are much harder. 767 00:30:31,060 --> 00:30:32,520 And why is that? 768 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,195 Because let's say the government comes to you and 769 00:30:34,195 --> 00:30:35,300 says, look I'm doing great. 770 00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:36,570 I've nailed down the demand curve. 771 00:30:36,570 --> 00:30:38,340 I just need to know your supply curve, so I can set 772 00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:39,210 your price. 773 00:30:39,210 --> 00:30:41,290 What's your supply curve again? 774 00:30:41,290 --> 00:30:42,055 OK, what are you going to say? 775 00:30:42,055 --> 00:30:43,262 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 776 00:30:43,262 --> 00:30:45,490 PROFESSOR: Aw, this stuff costs a fortune to make. 777 00:30:45,490 --> 00:30:48,550 You would not believe what it costs this stuff to make. 778 00:30:48,550 --> 00:30:49,450 My supply curve-- 779 00:30:49,450 --> 00:30:50,360 12 plus Q squared? 780 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:50,850 Ha! 781 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:51,280 That's a joke. 782 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,480 It's 30 plus 18Q squared. 783 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,050 Are you kidding? 784 00:30:54,050 --> 00:30:56,720 My supply curve is crazy high. 785 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,340 And the problem is, the government doesn't know. 786 00:31:00,340 --> 00:31:02,950 Because with consumers, at least I can run experiments to 787 00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:03,480 get the demand. 788 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,800 With the firm, I can't get inside their books. 789 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,650 I can't really know. 790 00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:08,840 And if I get inside the books, they can cook their books and 791 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,240 make it look like stuff costs more. 792 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,010 How can I really know? 793 00:31:11,010 --> 00:31:13,340 Just like it's difficult for the board of directors to 794 00:31:13,340 --> 00:31:16,900 figure out whether the CEO of a company needs his own plane, 795 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:18,640 it's very difficult for government regulators to 796 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,845 figure out what it actually costs to produce these drugs. 797 00:31:21,845 --> 00:31:26,570 And as a result, it's very hard to get this right. 798 00:31:26,570 --> 00:31:31,700 And the problem is if the government gets it wrong, it 799 00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:35,200 can make it worse than not regulating at all. 800 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,180 So for example, if the government came in, and let's 801 00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:42,750 say, the government said look, I can't believe this firm. 802 00:31:42,750 --> 00:31:45,370 12 plus Q squared sounds way too high for cost. I think 803 00:31:45,370 --> 00:31:46,930 marginal costs are much lower than that. 804 00:31:46,930 --> 00:31:50,060 And I think the competitive price should be 10 because I 805 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:51,470 know the firm is going to lie to me. 806 00:31:51,470 --> 00:31:52,740 I know they're going to tell me numbers too big. 807 00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:54,795 So I'm going to say that equilibrium should be 808 00:31:54,795 --> 00:31:57,740 competitive, should be a price of 10. 809 00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:01,500 And at a price of 10, the firm is now operating off the 810 00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:04,130 marginal revenue curve at that low price 811 00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:05,940 because it's below 16. 812 00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:09,660 So at a price of 10, the firm is going to set marginal 813 00:32:09,660 --> 00:32:14,790 revenue equal to marginal cost. Well, marginal revenue 814 00:32:14,790 --> 00:32:17,560 at a price of 10 is the price. 815 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,490 That's all they can charge is 10. 816 00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:22,450 So they're going to set price equal to marginal cost. The 817 00:32:22,450 --> 00:32:27,040 marginal cost with a production of 10-- 818 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,010 The marginal cost is 2Q. 819 00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:31,090 So set price equal to 2Q. 820 00:32:31,090 --> 00:32:33,490 Or 10 equals 2Q. 821 00:32:33,490 --> 00:32:35,280 Or Q equals five. 822 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,230 They'll produce five units. 823 00:32:37,230 --> 00:32:38,520 They'll say look, if you're only going to let me charge 824 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,020 10, I'm only going to produce five units. 825 00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:41,750 That's what I'll produce. 826 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:46,450 That's what's optimal for me at a price of 10. 827 00:32:46,450 --> 00:32:48,030 What you see is-- 828 00:32:48,030 --> 00:32:50,240 Now if you look at this graph and you look at the firm 829 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,585 producing five units. 830 00:32:53,585 --> 00:32:56,540 What you see is the firm produces five units. 831 00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:59,540 Now, the total surplus has fallen. 832 00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:04,670 It's just A plus B plus D. The consumer surplus is very high. 833 00:33:04,670 --> 00:33:06,320 We don't have the horizontal line of 10 here. 834 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,360 But draw yourself that horizontal line of 10, which 835 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,120 is where the dashed line of five intersects the marginal 836 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,870 cost curve. 837 00:33:13,870 --> 00:33:15,430 You could see there's a big consumer surplus. 838 00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:18,980 It's A plus B plus half of D and a little producer surplus, 839 00:33:18,980 --> 00:33:21,800 which is that triangle that's the lower half of D. But look 840 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,550 what's happened to social surplus. 841 00:33:23,550 --> 00:33:26,550 Before the government got involved, the deadweight loss 842 00:33:26,550 --> 00:33:30,190 was just C plus E. Now the government, by misregulating 843 00:33:30,190 --> 00:33:33,210 the price, has created deadweight losses of C plus E 844 00:33:33,210 --> 00:33:36,840 plus F plus G plus H. The government has just increased 845 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,240 the deadweight loss a lot, by getting involved and 846 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,710 misregulating. 847 00:33:43,710 --> 00:33:47,150 And in particular, that area that increases it-- 848 00:33:47,150 --> 00:33:49,150 Here's the interesting thing. 849 00:33:49,150 --> 00:33:52,490 Falling from eight to six caused that little triangle. 850 00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:55,650 Falling from six to five, just one more unit, causes a 851 00:33:55,650 --> 00:33:59,280 trapezoid, which is probably bigger than that triangle. 852 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,250 Why? 853 00:34:00,250 --> 00:34:01,770 Because we're moving farther and farther 854 00:34:01,770 --> 00:34:03,170 away from the optimum. 855 00:34:03,170 --> 00:34:05,890 We're losing more and more trades that were socially 856 00:34:05,890 --> 00:34:08,199 beneficial. 857 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,929 Remember at the optimum, deadweight loss is very small. 858 00:34:10,929 --> 00:34:13,190 But as you move farther and farther away, that deadweight 859 00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:14,190 loss gets bigger and bigger. 860 00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:17,760 So this government misregulation, instead of 861 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,280 moving us to what's optimal, by just moving us one below 862 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,870 where we were as a monopolist has caused all this huge extra 863 00:34:25,870 --> 00:34:29,120 deadweight loss and made things worse. 864 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,280 Indeed, it could be worse. 865 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,630 Imagine the government chose a price so low the firm just 866 00:34:33,630 --> 00:34:34,100 said, forget it. 867 00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,000 I'm going to shut down. 868 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,699 You could lose all surplus in this market. 869 00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:39,360 If the government came in and said, no, we 870 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:39,880 don't believe you. 871 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,130 The price should be whatever. 872 00:34:41,130 --> 00:34:43,300 It wouldn't be, in this case, because in this case, price is 873 00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:45,580 always greater than marginal cost. 874 00:34:45,580 --> 00:34:47,445 But let's say the government came in another case and set a 875 00:34:47,445 --> 00:34:48,239 price that was too low. 876 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,650 It could just cause the firm to shut down. 877 00:34:49,650 --> 00:34:53,090 Then all social surplus in the market would disappear. 878 00:34:53,090 --> 00:34:54,190 OK? 879 00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:56,540 So basically, there's these difficulties with the 880 00:34:56,540 --> 00:34:59,720 regulation, which is it's hard to know how to set the price. 881 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:02,620 Now in practice, of course, what happens is governments 882 00:35:02,620 --> 00:35:04,570 set the price too high. 883 00:35:04,570 --> 00:35:08,740 In practice, the government would much rather err on the 884 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:11,160 side of letting monopolists make a little money than err 885 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,720 on the side of there being too little of the good. 886 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:15,170 So government, facing uncertainty about what the 887 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:18,410 right level to set is, will typically end up erring on the 888 00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:20,460 side of monopolists, partly because of the way of the 889 00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:21,990 nature of regulation. 890 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:26,700 So let's say you are president whatever. 891 00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:28,310 And you want to regulate this new good. 892 00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:30,660 OK, somebody made the new good and you want to regulate it. 893 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:33,630 Well who are you going to hire to be the regulator? 894 00:35:33,630 --> 00:35:34,700 Well clearly, someone who knows 895 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:36,740 something about the market. 896 00:35:36,740 --> 00:35:38,930 So there's a new good. 897 00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:41,020 My favorite example of an outdated 898 00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:42,420 technology is the umbrella. 899 00:35:42,420 --> 00:35:43,490 I really think we've got to figure out a 900 00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:44,360 better way to do umbrellas. 901 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,030 They suck. 902 00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:46,410 In the wind, they blow up. 903 00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:47,110 They're useless, right. 904 00:35:47,110 --> 00:35:48,490 There's got to be a better umbrella out there. 905 00:35:48,490 --> 00:35:52,050 Let's say somebody finally figures out a better umbrella. 906 00:35:52,050 --> 00:35:54,150 But they've got a patent on it. 907 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:54,720 And so you want to regulate it. 908 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:56,480 It's got some natural monopoly producing it. 909 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,950 It uses unobtanium. 910 00:35:57,950 --> 00:35:59,750 And the only can find it in one place, Pandora. 911 00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:01,090 So they've got to-- 912 00:36:01,090 --> 00:36:02,835 They're the only guys-- 913 00:36:02,835 --> 00:36:04,640 Isn't that the stupidest name ever for a material? 914 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,300 How could they have not come up with a better name than 915 00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:07,250 unobtanium? 916 00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:09,570 Anyway, so it uses unobtanium. 917 00:36:09,570 --> 00:36:11,320 And basically they have this natural monopoly. 918 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,950 So you want to regulate it 919 00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:14,770 Well, who are you going to find to regulate it? 920 00:36:14,770 --> 00:36:16,540 Well you know, once there was an expert in making umbrellas 921 00:36:16,540 --> 00:36:18,510 with unobtanium. 922 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:20,220 That person who you're going to hire. 923 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:21,370 That's the right person to hire. 924 00:36:21,370 --> 00:36:22,630 Unfortunately, that probably means they're probably 925 00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:24,270 friendly with all the guys that make umbrellas with 926 00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:25,900 unobtanium. 927 00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:26,790 And they're not going to want to be too 928 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:29,100 tough on their buddies. 929 00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:31,110 So the natural person who's going to regulate, by their 930 00:36:31,110 --> 00:36:35,560 nature, is going to tend to be someone who's going to think 931 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,070 sort of on the industry's side. 932 00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:38,970 Moreover, what are they going to do after they're done being 933 00:36:38,970 --> 00:36:40,050 the regulator? 934 00:36:40,050 --> 00:36:41,190 They're going to go back into the business of making 935 00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:42,440 umbrellas with unobtanium. 936 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,910 So they're not going to want to be too mean to the business 937 00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:45,000 because they're going to be making money off 938 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,550 it five years hence. 939 00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:49,340 So you've got this problem that regulators are going to 940 00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:51,390 have a natural tendency to be sort of friendly towards 941 00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:52,700 industry they're regulating. 942 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:55,280 And that's going to lead to an upward bias. 943 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,970 The question is, how much is that upward bias in the price 944 00:36:59,970 --> 00:37:02,160 relative to what the monopolist would actually do. 945 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,860 And much like a patent, it depends. 946 00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:05,850 You can draw examples where the government regulation 947 00:37:05,850 --> 00:37:08,180 would improve things and examples where the government 948 00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:09,730 regulation would make things worse. 949 00:37:09,730 --> 00:37:11,490 You can do examples either way. 950 00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:14,170 And what, at least, is interesting here is this is 951 00:37:14,170 --> 00:37:15,623 the first example we've seen or one of the few examples 952 00:37:15,623 --> 00:37:16,670 we've seen where the government, at least, could 953 00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:18,270 possibly make things better. 954 00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:19,730 Even though it's not clear they will. 955 00:37:19,730 --> 00:37:21,600 At least, they could possibly make things better. 956 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,710 And that's because-- 957 00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:23,365 Why is that? 958 00:37:23,365 --> 00:37:24,910 This is a very important insight. 959 00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:25,740 Why is that? 960 00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:27,530 That's because everything we've dealt with so far, the 961 00:37:27,530 --> 00:37:29,710 market does everything well. 962 00:37:29,710 --> 00:37:31,280 We haven't needed a government. 963 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,290 What natural monopolies do is they say, wow, here's a case 964 00:37:34,290 --> 00:37:36,970 of what we call a market failure. 965 00:37:36,970 --> 00:37:40,480 The market has failed to maximize social surplus. 966 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,860 And that opens the door for potential gains for government 967 00:37:44,860 --> 00:37:46,220 intervention. 968 00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:49,130 Basically, as long as markets are functioning well in a 969 00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:52,650 competitive manner, there's no door open for the government 970 00:37:52,650 --> 00:37:53,270 to make things better. 971 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:55,590 The government can just make things worse. 972 00:37:55,590 --> 00:37:58,640 It's only when there's market failures, of which natural 973 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,720 monopoly is one example, can the government come in and 974 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:03,730 potentially make things better. 975 00:38:03,730 --> 00:38:06,170 It won't necessarily do so. 976 00:38:06,170 --> 00:38:09,210 But at least there's a door open to doing so. 977 00:38:09,210 --> 00:38:11,840 Questions about that-- 978 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,990 OK, the last thing I want to talk about, today, is an 979 00:38:14,990 --> 00:38:20,160 example that's in between a natural monopoly and no 980 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,200 natural monopoly, which is what we call 981 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,460 a contestable market. 982 00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:31,610 A contestable market-- 983 00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:36,080 A contestable market is one which says that there is a 984 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:41,180 natural monopoly, but it's not so big that someone couldn't 985 00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:44,860 come in and compete if the profits got too large. 986 00:38:44,860 --> 00:38:47,960 Or another way of saying this is, just because there's a 987 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,020 monopoly doesn't mean there's a whole lot of market power. 988 00:38:52,020 --> 00:38:53,800 Just because there's a monopoly doesn't mean there's 989 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,750 a whole lot of market power. 990 00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:58,740 So imagine a natural monopoly market with a very modest 991 00:38:58,740 --> 00:39:02,030 fixed cost, a fixed cost that's, you know, 992 00:39:02,030 --> 00:39:05,440 real but not enormous. 993 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,700 As long that monopolist who gets in first keeps their 994 00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:12,940 price near marginal cost, no will ever enter. 995 00:39:12,940 --> 00:39:14,770 As long as they get their price near marginal cost, no 996 00:39:14,770 --> 00:39:16,700 one will enter, even if they're making a small profit. 997 00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:21,090 No one will enter because no one could ever make money then 998 00:39:21,090 --> 00:39:21,690 and pay the fixed. 999 00:39:21,690 --> 00:39:23,340 No one could ever come in, pay the fixed cost, 1000 00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:24,940 and still make money. 1001 00:39:24,940 --> 00:39:26,720 So no one's ever going to enter. 1002 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:30,370 But if that price ever got too far above marginal cost, then 1003 00:39:30,370 --> 00:39:32,210 someone would say, ah, there's so much profit to be made. 1004 00:39:32,210 --> 00:39:33,210 That'll cover my fixed costs. 1005 00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:34,960 I'm coming in. 1006 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,260 That's what we mean by contestable market, a market 1007 00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:41,010 which can exist with a monopoly and can exist with 1008 00:39:41,010 --> 00:39:41,880 someone making money. 1009 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:47,630 And yet ultimately, there's sufficiently easy entry that, 1010 00:39:47,630 --> 00:39:52,100 basically, the monopolist is forced to behave almost like a 1011 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:53,250 competitive firm. 1012 00:39:53,250 --> 00:39:56,410 So it's sort of like market pressure on monopolists. 1013 00:39:56,410 --> 00:39:59,080 It's a weird outcome where you get a monopoly market but 1014 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,670 pricing close to competitive levels because of 1015 00:40:01,670 --> 00:40:04,290 this threat of entry. 1016 00:40:04,290 --> 00:40:07,910 Now the most famous example of this is in airlines and 1017 00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:10,620 airline deregulation. 1018 00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:14,900 Until the 1970s, the way airlines worked in the US is 1019 00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:16,400 there were private airline companies. 1020 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,750 Many of them don't exist anymore, Eastern, Pan Am. 1021 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:21,290 Ones you don't know about, don't exist anymore. 1022 00:40:21,290 --> 00:40:24,010 And they were regulated. 1023 00:40:24,010 --> 00:40:25,650 It was a regulated oligopoly. 1024 00:40:25,650 --> 00:40:26,940 We haven't really talked about oligopolies yet. 1025 00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:28,150 It was a few firms competing. 1026 00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:29,490 But think of it as a monopoly. 1027 00:40:29,490 --> 00:40:31,540 It's basically regulated monopoly. 1028 00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:33,380 In particular, they had monopolies 1029 00:40:33,380 --> 00:40:34,570 on different routes. 1030 00:40:34,570 --> 00:40:35,630 So what happened is the government would 1031 00:40:35,630 --> 00:40:38,120 say New York to Boston. 1032 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,740 That is the route that Eastern Airlines owns. 1033 00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:44,930 And they fly that without competition. 1034 00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:46,940 But in order to make sure they don't rip off the consumer, 1035 00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:49,200 we're going to regulate their prices. 1036 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,950 So Eastern Airlines, you fly this without competition. 1037 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:52,260 But we're going to regulate what you 1038 00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:54,750 can charge the consumer. 1039 00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:57,350 And this was because the government viewed airlines as 1040 00:40:57,350 --> 00:40:58,050 a natural monopoly. 1041 00:40:58,050 --> 00:41:01,750 It said, look, airplanes are really big and expensive. 1042 00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:04,720 There's huge fixed cost to becoming an airline. 1043 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:05,990 So we think this is a natural monopoly. 1044 00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:08,650 And we're going to regulate it. 1045 00:41:08,650 --> 00:41:10,750 However, economists started pointing out, and experts 1046 00:41:10,750 --> 00:41:14,580 started pointing out that no, in fact, this was actually a 1047 00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:16,150 very contestable market. 1048 00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:17,400 That it turned out it wasn't that 1049 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,360 expensive to produce airplanes. 1050 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,610 There were a lot of older airplanes you could 1051 00:41:20,610 --> 00:41:22,960 refurbish, et cetera. 1052 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,620 And that basically this is a market where, if the 1053 00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:27,120 government opened it up to competition, you could 1054 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,680 actually get some-- 1055 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,720 That threat of entry eventually could 1056 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,620 drive prices down. 1057 00:41:32,620 --> 00:41:34,535 And so basically, after a lot of debate, the government, in 1058 00:41:34,535 --> 00:41:37,960 the late 1970s, did deregulate airlines. 1059 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,965 One of the most important changes in government policy 1060 00:41:39,965 --> 00:41:42,880 in the 1970s was they deregulated airlines. 1061 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,390 And what happened? 1062 00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:46,270 Well, three things happened. 1063 00:41:46,270 --> 00:41:49,520 First of all, prices fell enormously. 1064 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,790 Prices fell by about a third. 1065 00:41:51,790 --> 00:41:53,980 Flying from point A to point B fell by a third, other places 1066 00:41:53,980 --> 00:41:55,050 more extreme. 1067 00:41:55,050 --> 00:41:59,040 When I was an undergraduate at MIT, I could fly from Boston 1068 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,000 to Newark for $19 each way. 1069 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,490 There was this airline called People's Express that was 1070 00:42:04,490 --> 00:42:06,880 introduced in the wave of deregulation in the 1980s. 1071 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,590 People's Express-- 1072 00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:08,680 It was fascinating. 1073 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,440 I don't know what their planes were held together by. 1074 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,510 And the thing was, you didn't even buy a ticket. 1075 00:42:14,510 --> 00:42:15,920 You just went and waited on line. 1076 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,830 They let you on the plane. 1077 00:42:16,830 --> 00:42:18,240 And when the plane was full, they took off. 1078 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,350 And they made you pay on the plane. 1079 00:42:20,350 --> 00:42:21,740 I still, to this day, don't know what happened if you 1080 00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:23,350 didn't have the money, if they like threw you off, get 1081 00:42:23,350 --> 00:42:24,070 parachutes or something. 1082 00:42:24,070 --> 00:42:25,320 I don't know what they did. 1083 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,880 But literally, they'd come down the middle of the aisle 1084 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,720 with a little credit card thing. 1085 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,030 And they'd make you pay on the plane. 1086 00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:33,065 I mean literally, it was cheaper than taking a bus. 1087 00:42:33,065 --> 00:42:37,400 It was incredible, $19 each way. 1088 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,240 So prices came way, way down. 1089 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:42,640 The second effect was many more routes 1090 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,200 were offered to consumers. 1091 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,040 Suddenly, routes which the government had said, no that's 1092 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:47,740 not profitable. 1093 00:42:47,740 --> 00:42:49,140 You shouldn't fly that. 1094 00:42:49,140 --> 00:42:50,910 New entrants said, no, in fact, it is profitable, 1095 00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:51,220 government. 1096 00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:53,040 You just had the cost structure wrong. 1097 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,070 And it is profitable to fly from Pittsburgh to Akron, or 1098 00:42:57,070 --> 00:43:00,670 whatever, wherever they now fly. 1099 00:43:00,670 --> 00:43:03,140 There are hundreds more places you can fly now than you could 1100 00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:04,520 in the 1970s. 1101 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,220 Hundreds and hundreds of routes that just didn't exist 1102 00:43:07,220 --> 00:43:08,350 because the government regulators assumed they 1103 00:43:08,350 --> 00:43:09,250 weren't profitable. 1104 00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:10,210 But in fact, they were. 1105 00:43:10,210 --> 00:43:13,180 Once there was competition in these contestable markets, 1106 00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:14,430 they did turn out to be profitable. 1107 00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:20,200 And the final thing that happened was that quality of 1108 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,870 airline travel deteriorated massively. 1109 00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:25,920 When I was a kid, and you flew on planes. 1110 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,580 It was really nice. 1111 00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:29,420 I mean there was tons of leg room. 1112 00:43:29,420 --> 00:43:33,820 You got tons of free food, free movies, free drinks. 1113 00:43:33,820 --> 00:43:34,690 And I didn't do that when I was a kid. 1114 00:43:34,690 --> 00:43:35,640 My parents did. 1115 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,120 Basically, it was an unbelievably nice experience. 1116 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,490 It's not so nice now. 1117 00:43:40,490 --> 00:43:42,680 I think as any of you who have flown will attest to. 1118 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,920 Now they're charging you for everything. 1119 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,650 And you can barely fit your legs in if you're over 5'2". 1120 00:43:47,650 --> 00:43:51,490 Now, why did this happen? 1121 00:43:51,490 --> 00:43:52,100 Somebody tell me. 1122 00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:53,080 Why did this happen? 1123 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,260 Why did deregulation lead from a world where flights were 1124 00:43:56,260 --> 00:44:00,890 unbelievably comfy to a world where flights are uncomfy? 1125 00:44:00,890 --> 00:44:01,155 Yeah. 1126 00:44:01,155 --> 00:44:04,408 AUDIENCE: It's more profitable to have more people taking it. 1127 00:44:04,408 --> 00:44:04,906 And-- 1128 00:44:04,906 --> 00:44:06,490 PROFESSOR: Sure, but that was always true. 1129 00:44:06,490 --> 00:44:07,800 It was always more profitable to have 1130 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,650 more people on a plane. 1131 00:44:08,650 --> 00:44:11,070 It was always more profitable to not give them nice stuff. 1132 00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:12,080 That hasn't changed. 1133 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,000 What has changed? 1134 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,340 Yeah. 1135 00:44:13,340 --> 00:44:14,663 AUDIENCE: You have-- there's competition. 1136 00:44:14,663 --> 00:44:16,380 So they need to reduce their cost more. 1137 00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:17,253 PROFESSOR: What's that? 1138 00:44:17,253 --> 00:44:18,702 AUDIENCE: There's more competition. 1139 00:44:18,702 --> 00:44:21,120 So they need to reduce their cost. 1140 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,300 PROFESSOR: There is more competition. 1141 00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:24,620 But there was some competition before. 1142 00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:25,470 But you're right. 1143 00:44:25,470 --> 00:44:26,440 Your about halfway there. 1144 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,063 What else? 1145 00:44:27,063 --> 00:44:29,485 AUDIENCE: Consumers aren't willing to pay for leg room 1146 00:44:29,485 --> 00:44:29,970 and all that stuff. 1147 00:44:29,970 --> 00:44:33,260 PROFESSOR: Basically before, if there was a route with two 1148 00:44:33,260 --> 00:44:34,730 airlines on it-- 1149 00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:35,970 A lot of them, I said there's two airlines. 1150 00:44:35,970 --> 00:44:37,320 And you wanted to compete. 1151 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,490 How did you compete? 1152 00:44:38,490 --> 00:44:40,210 You couldn't compete on price. 1153 00:44:40,210 --> 00:44:41,285 Right? 1154 00:44:41,285 --> 00:44:44,660 If Eastern and Pan Am were flying New York to Boston, 1155 00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:45,900 they couldn't compete on price. 1156 00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:46,720 The price was regulated. 1157 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:48,960 So how did they compete, by being as nice as possible on 1158 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,600 everything else, even though consumers didn't 1159 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,170 really value it. 1160 00:44:53,170 --> 00:44:55,080 Well, once they competed on price, they said, look, 1161 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,650 consumers don't really care so much about this 1162 00:44:56,650 --> 00:44:58,650 crappy airline food. 1163 00:44:58,650 --> 00:45:01,380 We're going to get rid of it and charge 20% less. 1164 00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:03,960 And lo and behold, they did. 1165 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,180 What's ironic, of course, is everyone bitches about how bad 1166 00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:08,050 airlines are. 1167 00:45:08,050 --> 00:45:10,800 But they don't bitch about how cheap they are. 1168 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,990 It is so cheap to fly now, compared to when I was a kid. 1169 00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:16,080 Based on what happened is they went from competing on 1170 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,240 non-price factors to competing on price. 1171 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:21,570 There's always competitive pressure. 1172 00:45:21,570 --> 00:45:22,760 There's always competitive pressure. 1173 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,610 It's just before, the competition had to be on 1174 00:45:24,610 --> 00:45:26,160 things which consumers didn't like. 1175 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,030 But they liked it enough that you might as 1176 00:45:28,030 --> 00:45:28,770 well compete on it. 1177 00:45:28,770 --> 00:45:30,130 Because it was not that consumers didn't like it all. 1178 00:45:30,130 --> 00:45:31,050 Obviously they liked it some, or they 1179 00:45:31,050 --> 00:45:32,750 wouldn't have bothered. 1180 00:45:32,750 --> 00:45:35,250 Now they've moved to a more efficient form of competition, 1181 00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:38,770 which is to compete on price rather than on quantity. 1182 00:45:38,770 --> 00:45:39,251 Yeah. 1183 00:45:39,251 --> 00:45:41,014 AUDIENCE: When you said the government regulated the 1184 00:45:41,014 --> 00:45:43,580 price, only wasn't that just on the upper level 1185 00:45:43,580 --> 00:45:44,542 that you got that? 1186 00:45:44,542 --> 00:45:45,790 PROFESSOR: No. 1187 00:45:45,790 --> 00:45:48,560 The government just regulated the price. 1188 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,680 Now, so this is a big victory for economists. 1189 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,370 Yay for economists-- 1190 00:45:53,370 --> 00:45:54,220 We did a great job. 1191 00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:57,430 But we whiffed on one thing. 1192 00:45:57,430 --> 00:46:01,130 We whiffed on one thing, which we did not foresee, which has 1193 00:46:01,130 --> 00:46:03,620 led deregulation to be much less beneficial than we 1194 00:46:03,620 --> 00:46:05,150 thought it was going to be. 1195 00:46:05,150 --> 00:46:08,990 What we whiffed on was the hub and spoke system. 1196 00:46:08,990 --> 00:46:12,780 We whiffed on the fact that, while building airplanes is 1197 00:46:12,780 --> 00:46:18,200 contestable, building slots at airports is not. 1198 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,190 That there's a limited number of slots at airports. 1199 00:46:20,190 --> 00:46:23,020 And it's incredibly hard to build a new airport because of 1200 00:46:23,020 --> 00:46:25,320 environmental regulations and other things. 1201 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,770 What that meant was there is still a natural monopoly in 1202 00:46:28,770 --> 00:46:30,780 airport slots, even if there's not much of a 1203 00:46:30,780 --> 00:46:32,970 natural monopoly in planes. 1204 00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:36,920 The result is that now what airlines do is funnel everyone 1205 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,570 through their hub and then out to the spokes. 1206 00:46:41,570 --> 00:46:44,990 And as a result, because of that they have developed new 1207 00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:46,440 quasi monopolies. 1208 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,820 So to fly from point A to point B, for many A's and B's, 1209 00:46:48,820 --> 00:46:50,150 only one airline flies it. 1210 00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:51,670 Because it's economical for them because 1211 00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:53,210 point A is their hub. 1212 00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:55,460 But airline B can't get into that hub. 1213 00:46:55,460 --> 00:46:57,830 They can't get a gate at that hub. 1214 00:46:57,830 --> 00:47:01,060 So as a result, they can't effectively fly from A to B. 1215 00:47:01,060 --> 00:47:02,940 So my wife is from Minneapolis. 1216 00:47:02,940 --> 00:47:03,960 We had to go to Minneapolis. 1217 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,420 Northwest had a monopoly on going to Minneapolis. 1218 00:47:06,420 --> 00:47:09,890 So I could fly from Boston to LA for half the price of 1219 00:47:09,890 --> 00:47:12,410 Boston to Minneapolis. 1220 00:47:12,410 --> 00:47:15,680 Why, because Northwest controlled all the gate slots 1221 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:16,560 in Minneapolis. 1222 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,790 They had a natural monopoly on that resource. 1223 00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:20,160 And that's what economists missed. 1224 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,170 So deregulation worked in some markets with a lot of 1225 00:47:23,170 --> 00:47:23,550 competition. 1226 00:47:23,550 --> 00:47:27,180 Like the New York to LA market is very competitive. 1227 00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:29,740 It did not work in other markets, where there was this 1228 00:47:29,740 --> 00:47:31,030 natural hub. 1229 00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:35,590 And so one airline could dominate. 1230 00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:37,040 Or a few airlines could dominate. 1231 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,660 And that's why you could see some crazy pricing 1232 00:47:38,660 --> 00:47:40,180 differentials. 1233 00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:41,490 That's why, for example, I could fly to 1234 00:47:41,490 --> 00:47:43,510 Baltimore for $127. 1235 00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:48,480 But to DC, it cost me $500, even though they're less than 1236 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,640 an hour apart by car. 1237 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,800 This is because the constraint on slots has limited the 1238 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,420 amount of competition that can go on. 1239 00:47:58,420 --> 00:48:00,730 And so that's sort of an example of where competition 1240 00:48:00,730 --> 00:48:03,040 can work and where it can't to try to deal with these natural 1241 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,460 monopoly problems. 1242 00:48:04,460 --> 00:48:06,670 All right, let me stop there. 1243 00:48:06,670 --> 00:48:08,690 And we'll come back on Wednesday 1244 00:48:08,690 --> 00:48:09,930 and talk about oligopoly. 1245 00:48:09,930 --> 00:48:12,550 Good luck tomorrow night on the exam. 1246 00:48:12,550 --> 00:48:13,400 It's tomorrow night? 1247 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,430 Yeah, tomorrow night. 1248 00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:15,150 Good luck. 1249 00:48:15,150 --> 00:48:17,030 Everyone looked confused for a second. 1250 00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:18,100 Next week-- 1251 00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:20,750 Oh-- 1252 00:48:20,750 --> 00:48:23,570 OK, just joking, April fools, Halloween fools. 1253 00:48:23,570 --> 00:48:24,820 Good luck next week on the exam.