1 00:00:05,260 --> 00:00:06,720 JEFF DUSEK: My name is Jeff Dusek. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,320 I am a course two Ph.D. candidate. 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,200 My involvement in the class is I'm actually a mentor for two 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,450 of the student project teams. 5 00:00:15,450 --> 00:00:18,760 So Sruthi is on one of the teams-- team Beverly Ann. 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,420 I also worked with team Art. 7 00:00:21,420 --> 00:00:23,650 And I took this course last year and found it 8 00:00:23,650 --> 00:00:25,560 to be an incredible experience. 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,490 I have an interest in assistive technology 10 00:00:28,490 --> 00:00:31,410 that stems from a grandmother who 11 00:00:31,410 --> 00:00:33,140 was in a wheelchair growing up. 12 00:00:33,140 --> 00:00:34,950 And when I was asked to be involved 13 00:00:34,950 --> 00:00:36,620 in the course this year, I was really 14 00:00:36,620 --> 00:00:40,100 excited to be involved again and in a mentor capacity 15 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:44,750 was really a great privilege in my opinion. 16 00:00:44,750 --> 00:00:47,110 SRUTHI NURAYANAN: My name is Sruthi Nurayanan. 17 00:00:47,110 --> 00:00:50,660 I'm course six two, which is ECS. 18 00:00:50,660 --> 00:00:53,100 And in this class this year, I was 19 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:57,700 working with Beverly Ann on a grip sensor that 20 00:00:57,700 --> 00:01:00,250 would help her detect when her grip was slipping when she 21 00:01:00,250 --> 00:01:01,541 was picking up certain objects. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,620 So I was interested in building some sort of technology that 23 00:01:10,620 --> 00:01:13,550 would actually go to someone and help them. 24 00:01:13,550 --> 00:01:16,000 I hadn't really done that before in a class. 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,330 And this class was, I guess, pretty well advertised. 26 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:23,780 And I was interested in sort of going forth and just building 27 00:01:23,780 --> 00:01:26,720 something, even if it was just for one person. 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,156 And so that's why I decided to take it. 29 00:01:33,290 --> 00:01:36,560 In terms of how my expectations for the class 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,434 actually correlated with what the class was like, 31 00:01:39,434 --> 00:01:40,850 I think that in some circumstances 32 00:01:40,850 --> 00:01:42,850 it really did end up being what I expected. 33 00:01:42,850 --> 00:01:45,390 I got to build something, which is really exciting. 34 00:01:45,390 --> 00:01:49,079 I learned a lot about circuitry and fields 35 00:01:49,079 --> 00:01:50,620 I'd never known anything about before 36 00:01:50,620 --> 00:01:52,560 but was really interested in. 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,440 And all of that was really what I 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,290 wanted to get out of the class, as well as the joy from being 39 00:01:58,290 --> 00:02:01,010 able to make someone something that they're going to use 40 00:02:01,010 --> 00:02:02,030 and that will help them. 41 00:02:02,030 --> 00:02:04,770 And so that made me really happy. 42 00:02:04,770 --> 00:02:06,940 What I didn't think I would get out of this class-- 43 00:02:06,940 --> 00:02:08,315 but I was surprised to-- was sort 44 00:02:08,315 --> 00:02:12,050 of the able to interact with people with disabilities 45 00:02:12,050 --> 00:02:16,020 and understand how they interact with the world 46 00:02:16,020 --> 00:02:19,090 and how assistive technology can really help someone, 47 00:02:19,090 --> 00:02:21,400 even if it's just in a very small way. 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,380 So I learned a lot about that. 49 00:02:23,380 --> 00:02:25,662 And I'm glad I took the class for it. 50 00:02:25,662 --> 00:02:26,370 JEFF DUSEK: Yeah. 51 00:02:26,370 --> 00:02:30,950 So as far as my expectations for the course, 52 00:02:30,950 --> 00:02:33,640 one thing I really realized taking this last year 53 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:39,680 is that this class and design-- and iterative design in general 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,210 really force you to learn skill sets that 55 00:02:43,210 --> 00:02:45,210 might not be something that you come in with. 56 00:02:45,210 --> 00:02:48,360 So last year we worked on kind of a robotic arm project. 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,900 I'm a mechanical engineer. 58 00:02:49,900 --> 00:02:51,910 And so some of the electronics and the coding 59 00:02:51,910 --> 00:02:54,780 were not really in my wheel house, if you will. 60 00:02:54,780 --> 00:02:59,400 So this year I was kind of the mech-E person of the staff. 61 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,300 So what I was hoping was to be able to help teams that 62 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:06,450 needed a little bit more mechanical design, who maybe 63 00:03:06,450 --> 00:03:09,220 come from backgrounds in electrical engineering 64 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:11,811 or computer science and stuff, that might not have that skill 65 00:03:11,811 --> 00:03:12,310 set. 66 00:03:12,310 --> 00:03:15,470 And I think maybe we pulled that off-- 67 00:03:15,470 --> 00:03:18,410 would say you have to hear from the teams about that one. 68 00:03:22,775 --> 00:03:24,150 SRUTHI NURAYANAN: So when we have 69 00:03:24,150 --> 00:03:26,560 to collaborate with our client, a lot of it 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,490 was just figuring out what would help her out the most. 71 00:03:30,490 --> 00:03:33,310 Because she came and told us immediately. 72 00:03:33,310 --> 00:03:35,940 She was, like, I have this disease. 73 00:03:35,940 --> 00:03:39,140 And I have bad grip because of it. 74 00:03:39,140 --> 00:03:41,787 And so we had to spend a long time thinking about, OK, 75 00:03:41,787 --> 00:03:42,620 what does that mean? 76 00:03:45,530 --> 00:03:49,590 What parts of her hand does she grip with? 77 00:03:49,590 --> 00:03:51,080 When does her grip slip? 78 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,770 Why does it slip? 79 00:03:52,770 --> 00:03:55,960 What can we do to prevent it from slipping? 80 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,850 What device could we even possibly make? 81 00:03:57,850 --> 00:03:59,230 And so a lot of the time was just 82 00:03:59,230 --> 00:04:02,650 spent with her talking with her about her experiences 83 00:04:02,650 --> 00:04:05,650 with her disease and sort of figuring out very, very slowly 84 00:04:05,650 --> 00:04:07,920 what would actually help her. 85 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,965 And then once we were able to get to that point, 86 00:04:09,965 --> 00:04:11,340 it sort of snowballed from there. 87 00:04:11,340 --> 00:04:12,330 We were, like, OK. 88 00:04:12,330 --> 00:04:14,600 We actually know what the problem is now. 89 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,782 So we can make this device. 90 00:04:15,782 --> 00:04:17,490 And then it was just build, build, build. 91 00:04:17,490 --> 00:04:19,073 And then we got it done and it worked. 92 00:04:23,870 --> 00:04:26,880 So for other students or engineers who 93 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,770 want to collaborate with clients with disabilities, 94 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:32,470 I think that it's a really valuable experience, 95 00:04:32,470 --> 00:04:34,220 and you should definitely go for it. 96 00:04:34,220 --> 00:04:37,070 I learned a lot and was able to help someone. 97 00:04:37,070 --> 00:04:40,830 And I think that in itself made me really happy. 98 00:04:40,830 --> 00:04:45,390 But in terms of things to keep in mind, 99 00:04:45,390 --> 00:04:46,890 the client comes first. 100 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:48,990 And you have to always remember that you 101 00:04:48,990 --> 00:04:51,110 are solving their problem, not what 102 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:52,770 you think their problem is. 103 00:04:52,770 --> 00:04:54,610 And we had to spend a really long time 104 00:04:54,610 --> 00:04:57,250 actually getting to the root of her problem, which 105 00:04:57,250 --> 00:04:59,490 is why I think in the end our product worked. 106 00:04:59,490 --> 00:05:01,860 So definitely listen to the client. 107 00:05:01,860 --> 00:05:04,300 Try to get as much critical feedback from them 108 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:06,310 as possible, even though sometimes that's hard. 109 00:05:06,310 --> 00:05:09,040 Because they're just happy that you're there helping them, 110 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,870 even if you're not making them the best thing that 111 00:05:11,870 --> 00:05:12,890 you possibly could. 112 00:05:12,890 --> 00:05:15,360 And so definitely listen to your client 113 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,570 would be the advice I would give. 114 00:05:21,610 --> 00:05:24,120 So I think the group work went really well. 115 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,730 We were able to split it pretty nicely into different sections 116 00:05:27,730 --> 00:05:29,225 of work. 117 00:05:29,225 --> 00:05:31,100 In the beginning we were all pretty much just 118 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:34,510 talking with Beverly Ann a lot about her disease 119 00:05:34,510 --> 00:05:35,890 and her problem. 120 00:05:35,890 --> 00:05:38,130 But once we were able to analyze the problem, 121 00:05:38,130 --> 00:05:41,560 we were able to pick up niches of the design 122 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,710 that we were able to split up pretty evenly 123 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:48,150 and work on and then combine in the end. 124 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:51,470 I think definitely figuring out how to split the work evenly 125 00:05:51,470 --> 00:05:52,560 is the hardest part. 126 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,976 But once we were able to do that, it went really smoothly. 127 00:05:59,270 --> 00:06:02,590 I would say for our team in particular, none of us 128 00:06:02,590 --> 00:06:04,470 had any circuitry experience coming in. 129 00:06:04,470 --> 00:06:07,080 And we were making a device that was 130 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,670 going to stay on her at all times, 131 00:06:08,670 --> 00:06:11,020 and it definitely required a lot of circuitry. 132 00:06:11,020 --> 00:06:14,420 So the biggest problem was just figuring out 133 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:17,330 what kind of technology we even had available to use 134 00:06:17,330 --> 00:06:19,760 and how we could use that to our advantage, 135 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,750 learning about how circuits worked, 136 00:06:21,750 --> 00:06:23,370 even at like a very basic level. 137 00:06:23,370 --> 00:06:25,690 All of that was just so foreign to us. 138 00:06:25,690 --> 00:06:29,270 And so that was definitely the hardest part to get past. 139 00:06:33,250 --> 00:06:35,250 JEFF DUSEK: Yeah, so as a mentor I 140 00:06:35,250 --> 00:06:37,140 might have a slightly different perspective 141 00:06:37,140 --> 00:06:38,520 on the teaching of the course. 142 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,060 And I think a few things are really important. 143 00:06:42,060 --> 00:06:46,257 I would say as far as design and design for our client, 144 00:06:46,257 --> 00:06:47,340 there's really two things. 145 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:49,550 I would say that making sure that you 146 00:06:49,550 --> 00:06:54,390 have a really good contextual inquiry-- 147 00:06:54,390 --> 00:06:57,000 so really understand your client and understand the problem. 148 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,345 I think that's one thing that this course does 149 00:06:59,345 --> 00:07:01,470 that's a little different from most design courses. 150 00:07:01,470 --> 00:07:04,487 You're designing for a single person. 151 00:07:04,487 --> 00:07:06,570 And so you really get to interact with that person 152 00:07:06,570 --> 00:07:08,950 and understand them and understand their problem. 153 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:10,810 And it's really important to do that. 154 00:07:10,810 --> 00:07:13,310 And that's kind of the starting point for everything you do. 155 00:07:13,310 --> 00:07:16,250 And so you really need to get that contextual inquiry. 156 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:19,660 And the second thing that I learned taking the course, 157 00:07:19,660 --> 00:07:21,730 but then also working with the teams this year, 158 00:07:21,730 --> 00:07:24,610 is just the value of iterative design 159 00:07:24,610 --> 00:07:28,060 and prototypes-- no matter what fidelity they 160 00:07:28,060 --> 00:07:31,610 are, so even paper things or cardboard things. 161 00:07:31,610 --> 00:07:33,310 Sruthi's team with Beverly Ann-- they 162 00:07:33,310 --> 00:07:36,800 worked with a grip project. 163 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,690 And so they used things like putty to kind of map 164 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:42,360 where the hand grips in particular and those sort 165 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:42,984 of things. 166 00:07:42,984 --> 00:07:44,900 And I think that's really valuable-- is making 167 00:07:44,900 --> 00:07:48,640 use of even kind of non-technical prototyping 168 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,550 but to really better understand the design space. 169 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:55,290 SRUTHI NURAYANAN: For the professors and educators 170 00:07:55,290 --> 00:07:57,830 for this course who are going to teach it in the future, 171 00:07:57,830 --> 00:08:01,500 I think that the thing most important for them to remember 172 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:05,230 is that I think the students all have really good intentions 173 00:08:05,230 --> 00:08:07,210 but don't necessarily know how to act on them. 174 00:08:07,210 --> 00:08:09,175 Like in our case, we were just really lost 175 00:08:09,175 --> 00:08:10,550 with some of the electrical stuff 176 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:12,677 until we were able to find resources 177 00:08:12,677 --> 00:08:13,760 that were able to help us. 178 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,490 And so I think the one thing they need to keep in mind 179 00:08:16,490 --> 00:08:21,330 is that we definitely are very lost in some of the things 180 00:08:21,330 --> 00:08:22,780 we have to learn how to do. 181 00:08:22,780 --> 00:08:25,930 And so obtaining as many resources as possible 182 00:08:25,930 --> 00:08:29,180 is very useful for us down the road. 183 00:08:29,180 --> 00:08:31,290 So for example, in our case, we were 184 00:08:31,290 --> 00:08:33,110 able to use the Cypress Engineering 185 00:08:33,110 --> 00:08:37,159 Lab, which has a lot of resources for electrical device 186 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:37,960 development. 187 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,130 But we didn't know about it until mid November. 188 00:08:40,130 --> 00:08:42,140 So until then we were sort of floundering. 189 00:08:42,140 --> 00:08:44,530 And eventually we were able to get into the lab 190 00:08:44,530 --> 00:08:47,031 and get a lot of work done, but knowing that earlier 191 00:08:47,031 --> 00:08:48,030 would have been helpful. 192 00:08:48,030 --> 00:08:51,363 And so just find and exploit all the resources you can get, 193 00:08:51,363 --> 00:08:52,863 because they all pay off in the end. 194 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,070 Take this class. 195 00:08:59,070 --> 00:09:01,060 I really, really enjoyed it. 196 00:09:01,060 --> 00:09:03,680 It's something that I haven't gotten out of a class 197 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:07,021 before, because this actually went to someone. 198 00:09:07,021 --> 00:09:09,270 It wasn't just something that I built and then dropped 199 00:09:09,270 --> 00:09:10,270 at the end of the class. 200 00:09:10,270 --> 00:09:13,790 It is actually going to help someone live 201 00:09:13,790 --> 00:09:15,270 their life in a better way. 202 00:09:15,270 --> 00:09:17,750 And that's just incredibly rewarding.