1 00:00:04,852 --> 00:00:06,560 WILLIAM LI: Well, I think the first thing 2 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:08,910 to say in terms of tips for educators 3 00:00:08,910 --> 00:00:15,480 is to really encourage you or really encourage them to do it. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,370 It's a very rewarding experience. 5 00:00:18,370 --> 00:00:22,000 I think that the opportunity to engage with community 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,660 organizations and assistive technology users-- 7 00:00:24,660 --> 00:00:27,230 people with disabilities in the wider community, 8 00:00:27,230 --> 00:00:32,140 beyond a college campus-- is for us 9 00:00:32,140 --> 00:00:37,110 as instructors a very rewarding and exciting experience. 10 00:00:37,110 --> 00:00:41,060 And you also find within the university itself 11 00:00:41,060 --> 00:00:44,170 a lot of support and interest-- people 12 00:00:44,170 --> 00:00:46,760 who want to bring their own experiences 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,700 or different aspects of the university that maybe work 14 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:53,340 in assistive technology or Student Disability 15 00:00:53,340 --> 00:00:58,000 Services that really get very excited-- or in design, 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,600 or in engineering, and so on. 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,179 And the students themselves, I think 18 00:01:05,179 --> 00:01:09,910 it's really a special group of students who 19 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:12,130 are interested in this topic. 20 00:01:12,130 --> 00:01:15,490 I think that's really probably the biggest 21 00:01:15,490 --> 00:01:18,660 kind of joy of working in a class like this-- 22 00:01:18,660 --> 00:01:21,030 the kind of experiences that students 23 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:23,230 bring to the table, the dedication 24 00:01:23,230 --> 00:01:28,000 that they bring to the class. 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,140 So there's sort of a big need out there. 26 00:01:30,140 --> 00:01:36,130 There's sort of a big interest from students. 27 00:01:36,130 --> 00:01:38,410 The other core part I would say is, there's no doubt, 28 00:01:38,410 --> 00:01:40,870 I mean logistically it's always a lot of work 29 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:44,720 to bring together-- different partners 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,550 or find people out in the community, 31 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:53,550 and find lab spaces and places to build prototypes, and so on. 32 00:01:53,550 --> 00:01:56,310 And I wouldn't even claim that we 33 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:58,770 tried to make it particularly efficient this year. 34 00:01:58,770 --> 00:02:03,310 I think to us, particularly given the circumstances 35 00:02:03,310 --> 00:02:07,120 and given that we were doing this for the first time, 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,630 we tried a lot of experiments that did 37 00:02:11,630 --> 00:02:13,250 require more time to set up. 38 00:02:13,250 --> 00:02:15,310 That might be one thing to say to 39 00:02:15,310 --> 00:02:17,920 that-- there might be more sort of efficient ways 40 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:21,210 to put this all together. 41 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:23,190 But the big thing that I think comes 42 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:29,170 to mind is that it's really the students working 43 00:02:29,170 --> 00:02:33,760 with their client-- or it's really 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,810 the results of this interaction between the students 45 00:02:36,810 --> 00:02:40,430 and their client that really motivates students 46 00:02:40,430 --> 00:02:43,470 to learn, and to develop new skills, 47 00:02:43,470 --> 00:02:48,280 and to put a lot of time and effort into their projects. 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:54,050 I really think that the way the relationship between clients 49 00:02:54,050 --> 00:02:58,760 and students is set up really drives the course. 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,280 It's really the clients that work with the students who 51 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,980 do a really substantial part of the teaching associated 52 00:03:06,980 --> 00:03:07,660 with the class. 53 00:03:07,660 --> 00:03:10,590 So in terms of learning outcomes or in terms 54 00:03:10,590 --> 00:03:13,750 of the things that students learn in the class is really 55 00:03:13,750 --> 00:03:22,465 big gains, I guess, to be gotten from a setup like this. 56 00:03:22,465 --> 00:03:27,010 GRACE TEO: I have two tips for other educators. 57 00:03:27,010 --> 00:03:29,870 I think the first one is, before the semester starts do 58 00:03:29,870 --> 00:03:32,290 all your homework as to where all 59 00:03:32,290 --> 00:03:34,780 the resources within your school are 60 00:03:34,780 --> 00:03:38,200 and within your community, because you have no idea where 61 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,870 the projects are going to go and what help your students are 62 00:03:40,870 --> 00:03:41,830 going to need. 63 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:43,280 There is no way that you yourself 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,880 are going to possibly have all the skills to teach them 65 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,130 how to do things. 66 00:03:47,130 --> 00:03:51,740 So just make as many friends as possible, who are on your side 67 00:03:51,740 --> 00:03:53,670 and who are willing to help out the students 68 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:56,510 with their projects. 69 00:03:56,510 --> 00:04:03,810 The second tip is that 80%-- 70% to 80% of the work 70 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:07,290 is all about people management. 71 00:04:07,290 --> 00:04:09,610 At the end of the day, you're trying 72 00:04:09,610 --> 00:04:14,200 to facilitate students working for a client. 73 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:20,709 And the students are usually novices at this. 74 00:04:20,709 --> 00:04:25,560 And most of the trouble that the students have come down to, 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,980 the client wants this, or the client is doing this, 76 00:04:27,980 --> 00:04:30,010 and it's very discouraging, or we don't 77 00:04:30,010 --> 00:04:31,820 know how to do this for them. 78 00:04:31,820 --> 00:04:35,450 And so being able to facilitate that relationship 79 00:04:35,450 --> 00:04:38,216 becomes a big part of the work. 80 00:04:38,216 --> 00:04:40,980 WILLIAM LI: One other tip I would share 81 00:04:40,980 --> 00:04:44,215 is really in terms of the setup of the class. 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,850 I think we really do believe that working 83 00:04:48,850 --> 00:04:51,610 with the real clients over the semester 84 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:58,130 is really at the core of this, as opposed to maybe working 85 00:04:58,130 --> 00:05:01,330 more theoretically in terms of assistive technology design 86 00:05:01,330 --> 00:05:05,770 or kind of a generalized more abstract need. 87 00:05:05,770 --> 00:05:09,620 I think what I've seen is that really sharpens 88 00:05:09,620 --> 00:05:14,180 the particular need that students 89 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:16,290 identify and try to fulfill. 90 00:05:16,290 --> 00:05:20,190 It certainly motivates students to try 91 00:05:20,190 --> 00:05:24,690 to get their project working. 92 00:05:24,690 --> 00:05:30,120 And it also just ends up, I think, 93 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,310 being just a stronger learning experience 94 00:05:33,310 --> 00:05:37,440 for everybody involved-- just kind 95 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,600 of that human side of things. 96 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,020 So I know there's a lot of moving parts in the class 97 00:05:43,020 --> 00:05:46,460 that we've put together this semester. 98 00:05:46,460 --> 00:05:50,550 But from what I've seen, I think working with a client, 99 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:54,400 and I think that associated with that is the efforts 100 00:05:54,400 --> 00:06:00,230 to identify the right groups of people to work with, I think 101 00:06:00,230 --> 00:06:03,480 is really important. 102 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,976 And I think there's some question always about, well, 103 00:06:05,976 --> 00:06:07,600 if you work with one particular person, 104 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,130 does that mean you sort of overfit 105 00:06:09,130 --> 00:06:10,350 to that particular person? 106 00:06:10,350 --> 00:06:13,040 Is this kind of product only going 107 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,750 to be useful to that one person in the world perhaps? 108 00:06:17,750 --> 00:06:19,900 And the answer might be, yes, sometimes. 109 00:06:19,900 --> 00:06:23,040 I mean, it's very customized and it works, hopefully, 110 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,470 for that particular person. 111 00:06:24,470 --> 00:06:30,050 And intrinsically, I'd argue at least that that's a good thing. 112 00:06:30,050 --> 00:06:31,960 But the other aspect-- and I think 113 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,290 a student wrote about this in one of the blog posts-- 114 00:06:35,290 --> 00:06:38,600 is that I think doing this kind of design for one 115 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,890 and making it work end to end really 116 00:06:42,890 --> 00:06:47,650 can be a successful way of teaching design or teaching 117 00:06:47,650 --> 00:06:49,910 engineering and could lead as well 118 00:06:49,910 --> 00:06:55,580 to kind of successful ideas or successful solutions 119 00:06:55,580 --> 00:06:58,360 in assistive technology that are applicable to more 120 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,244 than one person.