1 00:00:05,046 --> 00:00:07,170 DAVI THORBURN: In thinking about how the course has 2 00:00:07,170 --> 00:00:13,290 to evolve given the availability of all this new technology, 3 00:00:13,290 --> 00:00:16,890 one thing I've especially thought about-- worried 4 00:00:16,890 --> 00:00:21,500 about, actually-- is how much of my own lecture material, 5 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:24,500 which I now have on video to make available to them, as 6 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:28,460 against my live performance, and whether my live performance is 7 00:00:28,460 --> 00:00:29,790 even necessary at all. 8 00:00:29,790 --> 00:00:34,780 How does it differ from-- and I still haven't worked that out. 9 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:37,160 For two semesters now, I have taught the course 10 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:41,000 with a combination of live lectures and video lectures. 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,930 And I've asked the students to tell me in commentaries 12 00:00:44,930 --> 00:00:46,460 whether they saw much difference, 13 00:00:46,460 --> 00:00:48,293 and whether they preferred one to the other, 14 00:00:48,293 --> 00:00:49,870 or whether they had strong feelings. 15 00:00:49,870 --> 00:00:54,830 And so far, the testimony has been, meh. 16 00:00:54,830 --> 00:00:58,300 They don't seem too interested in the question, which makes 17 00:00:58,300 --> 00:01:00,130 me a little nervous, actually. 18 00:01:00,130 --> 00:01:03,920 So my feeling is that it's still an open question. 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,990 One thing I definitely have decided 20 00:01:05,990 --> 00:01:08,130 I will be able to do with this video material 21 00:01:08,130 --> 00:01:10,090 is using it in other courses. 22 00:01:10,090 --> 00:01:12,080 If I an in advanced course in film, 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 and students haven't taken my earlier film course, 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,490 I can send them to this material and have them use it. 25 00:01:17,490 --> 00:01:22,210 So it's immensely valuable as a teaching tool. 26 00:01:22,210 --> 00:01:24,920 But how to integrate it into the existing course 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,030 remains a conundrum I haven't quite figured out. 28 00:01:28,030 --> 00:01:29,800 As I've begun to work on this, now it's 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,790 been some years since I've started to have 30 00:01:31,790 --> 00:01:34,630 some video lectures available. 31 00:01:34,630 --> 00:01:38,850 I think I realize that I was naive in imagining 32 00:01:38,850 --> 00:01:40,820 that the transition would be easy, 33 00:01:40,820 --> 00:01:42,860 that moving into a video format was simply 34 00:01:42,860 --> 00:01:44,730 a matter of transferring what I say, 35 00:01:44,730 --> 00:01:48,570 because in fact, the live environment turns out 36 00:01:48,570 --> 00:01:51,880 to be more central and more important. 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,930 And my feelings as I'm in the life environment 38 00:01:54,930 --> 00:01:57,680 turn out to be more essential and more important 39 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,970 than they might otherwise be. 40 00:01:59,970 --> 00:02:04,350 There's something about being in a live environment that 41 00:02:04,350 --> 00:02:07,530 affects me, and I think other teachers, maybe not 42 00:02:07,530 --> 00:02:11,200 all teachers, but other teachers very deeply. 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,880 I used to have the fantasy when I 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,060 was in front of a large audience of students, 45 00:02:16,060 --> 00:02:22,980 maybe as many as 100 or 150, I had the delusion or illusion 46 00:02:22,980 --> 00:02:26,120 that I was in touch with every student in the class, 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,279 and that every single one of them was paying attention, 48 00:02:30,279 --> 00:02:32,070 and than when they didn't, I could feel it, 49 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:33,670 and that I could see there was a student who 50 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:34,836 would stop paying attention. 51 00:02:34,836 --> 00:02:37,600 I would somehow walk in that direction of the class 52 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,150 or get that student's attention. 53 00:02:39,150 --> 00:02:41,440 Now, I'm sure it was a fantasy because how could you 54 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,500 be aware of 100 students? 55 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:45,620 But I had the illusion that I was aware of them. 56 00:02:45,620 --> 00:02:47,450 I was certainly aware of many of them. 57 00:02:47,450 --> 00:02:49,010 I was aware of them as individuals. 58 00:02:49,010 --> 00:02:52,410 I was aware of whethet-- and I felt I had them wrapped. 59 00:02:52,410 --> 00:02:56,970 And when I felt I was losing them, I would change pace. 60 00:02:56,970 --> 00:03:00,950 Maybe it has something to do with a theatrical aspect to me 61 00:03:00,950 --> 00:03:04,980 that really doesn't help much with being a good teacher. 62 00:03:04,980 --> 00:03:07,030 But maybe it does help with being a good teacher, 63 00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:08,930 and that maybe good teachers do have 64 00:03:08,930 --> 00:03:12,570 to have a bit of the ham in them and like being 65 00:03:12,570 --> 00:03:14,050 in front of audiences. 66 00:03:14,050 --> 00:03:16,220 This is a special problem for the Western, 67 00:03:16,220 --> 00:03:19,850 because it celebrates American individualism so powerfully. 68 00:03:19,850 --> 00:03:21,890 The iconic scene of the Western in which 69 00:03:21,890 --> 00:03:25,380 two men wearing gun square off against each other, 70 00:03:25,380 --> 00:03:28,630 and the quicker one survives, that scene of the quick draw, 71 00:03:28,630 --> 00:03:31,390 and of the [? dif ?] and the dusty street, 72 00:03:31,390 --> 00:03:34,650 can be said to be a kind of embodiment of these values 73 00:03:34,650 --> 00:03:37,470 in which you have to rely on yourself. 74 00:03:37,470 --> 00:03:38,790 You can't rely on someone else. 75 00:03:38,790 --> 00:03:39,950 You can't rely on the government. 76 00:03:39,950 --> 00:03:41,330 You can't rely on the Sheriff. 77 00:03:41,330 --> 00:03:42,770 You can't rely on the police. 78 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:44,380 You can't rely on your neighbors. 79 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:45,870 You have to trust yourself. 80 00:03:45,870 --> 00:03:47,570 And in fact, one of the ways you can 81 00:03:47,570 --> 00:03:50,190 see the power of these Western mythologies operating, 82 00:03:50,190 --> 00:03:52,210 as it seems to me in some sense, one 83 00:03:52,210 --> 00:03:54,000 of the great divides in the States 84 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,590 today over the question of guns and gun control 85 00:03:56,590 --> 00:04:01,445 is partly grounded in these myths of individualism, 86 00:04:01,445 --> 00:04:03,280 that the Western mythology has been 87 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,700 promulgating since before the advent of the movies. 88 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:08,850 And I think part of what makes my teaching good 89 00:04:08,850 --> 00:04:12,920 is that I'm in a kind of trance when I'm in front of a class, 90 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,140 in the sense that I am utterly oblivious to what I look 91 00:04:17,140 --> 00:04:18,640 like, I know for one thing. 92 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,510 I have done teachers nightmare kinds of things, 93 00:04:22,510 --> 00:04:26,050 like having my shirt unbuttoned without realizing it, or coming 94 00:04:26,050 --> 00:04:30,370 in with my hair incredibly askew without knowing about it. 95 00:04:30,370 --> 00:04:32,200 Once I gave a lecture at Yale. 96 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,730 I had young children at the time. 97 00:04:33,730 --> 00:04:34,894 And I had a child. 98 00:04:34,894 --> 00:04:36,560 My wife was with the two other children. 99 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,480 I had to take a child to a doctor. 100 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,430 We took him to the doctor. 101 00:04:40,430 --> 00:04:41,950 But I had to go to give my lecture. 102 00:04:41,950 --> 00:04:43,465 So I took him into the lecture hall. 103 00:04:43,465 --> 00:04:45,465 And I sat him down in the corner of the lecture. 104 00:04:45,465 --> 00:04:47,079 And he was about seven years old. 105 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:49,120 And he sat nicely in the seat for a little while. 106 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,659 I wasn't paying attention to him. 107 00:04:50,659 --> 00:04:51,450 Then he climbed up. 108 00:04:51,450 --> 00:04:52,969 I was lecturing on a stage. 109 00:04:52,969 --> 00:04:54,260 And he climbed up on the stage. 110 00:04:54,260 --> 00:04:55,580 And he went behind me. 111 00:04:55,580 --> 00:04:57,360 And he sat in a big chair behind me. 112 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,170 And he made faces. 113 00:04:59,170 --> 00:05:01,310 And the students begin to laugh. 114 00:05:01,310 --> 00:05:04,530 And I couldn't understand what was going on. 115 00:05:04,530 --> 00:05:10,360 But it taught me a great lesson in the theatrical reality 116 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,260 of the lecture hall. 117 00:05:12,260 --> 00:05:15,350 So I've come more fully to understand 118 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:17,750 that things that are hard to articulate 119 00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:20,240 or that I at least had not much thought about, certainly 120 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,120 have not been written about in pedagogical literature, 121 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,940 about the ambiance of the live classroom 122 00:05:26,940 --> 00:05:29,890 has some effect on lecturing. 123 00:05:29,890 --> 00:05:32,120 I mean it should have effect in smaller classrooms 124 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,010 even more fully, I think. 125 00:05:34,010 --> 00:05:39,110 But for lectures, I think it's important too. 126 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:45,330 And the transition to purely video lectures loses that. 127 00:05:45,330 --> 00:05:47,790 How big a loss that is, or whether that loss can 128 00:05:47,790 --> 00:05:51,026 be compensated for in other ways is a good question.