1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:04,570 PROFESSOR: This is Louis-- 2 00:00:04,570 --> 00:00:13,650 L-O-U-I-S d-e Broglie. 3 00:00:13,650 --> 00:00:16,620 And this is not hyphenated nor together. 4 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:18,210 They are separate. 5 00:00:18,210 --> 00:00:22,350 And the d is not capitalized apparently too. 6 00:00:22,350 --> 00:00:35,180 And it's 1924, the photon as a particle is clear, 7 00:00:35,180 --> 00:00:38,580 and the photon is also a wave. 8 00:00:38,580 --> 00:00:45,140 And Louis de Broglie basically had a great insight 9 00:00:45,140 --> 00:00:48,740 in which he said that if this is supposed 10 00:00:48,740 --> 00:00:54,950 to be a universal or a real basic physical property 11 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:59,270 that photons are waves and particles, 12 00:00:59,270 --> 00:01:03,570 we knew them as waves and now we know they're particles. 13 00:01:03,570 --> 00:01:07,520 But if they are dualed with respect to each other, 14 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,350 both descriptions are in different regimes 15 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:14,360 and in a sense, a particle at the end of the day 16 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,230 has wave attributes and particle attributes. 17 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:20,900 Wave attributes because it interferes 18 00:01:20,900 --> 00:01:24,230 and is described by waves. 19 00:01:24,230 --> 00:01:27,500 And particle attributes is because it has a definite 20 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:30,620 amount of energy, it comes in packets, 21 00:01:30,620 --> 00:01:34,130 they cannot be broken into other things-- 22 00:01:34,130 --> 00:01:38,000 this could be a more general property. 23 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:44,860 And in a sense, you could say that de Broglie did 24 00:01:44,860 --> 00:01:48,740 a fundamental step almost as important as Schrodinger 25 00:01:48,740 --> 00:01:55,190 when he claimed that all matter particles behave as waves as 26 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:56,100 well. 27 00:01:56,100 --> 00:02:01,340 Not just the photon, that's one example, but everybody does. 28 00:02:01,340 --> 00:02:08,900 So associated to every modern particle, there is a wave. 29 00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:14,920 But that is quite interesting because in quantum mechanics, 30 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:18,580 you have the photon and it's a particle, 31 00:02:18,580 --> 00:02:22,930 but it's associated to a wave and if you are a little quick, 32 00:02:22,930 --> 00:02:25,120 you say, oh sure, the electromagnetic wave, 33 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,970 but no, in quantum mechanics, it's 34 00:02:27,970 --> 00:02:31,330 the probability amplitude to be some work. 35 00:02:31,330 --> 00:02:34,300 Those are the numbers we tracked in the mass 36 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:38,020 and the interferometer, the probability to be sampled. 37 00:02:38,020 --> 00:02:41,720 We didn't track the waves or a single photon, 38 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:48,010 the wave was a wave of probability amplitude, 39 00:02:48,010 --> 00:02:53,250 something they didn't know at all about yet at that time. 40 00:02:53,250 --> 00:03:01,080 So de Broglie's says just like the photons have properties 41 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,110 of particles and properties of waves, 42 00:03:04,110 --> 00:03:08,410 every particle has properties of waves as well 43 00:03:08,410 --> 00:03:12,150 and every wave has a property of particles. 44 00:03:12,150 --> 00:03:18,440 But what is left unsaid here is yes, you have a wave, 45 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,810 but a wave of what? 46 00:03:20,810 --> 00:03:23,100 And we've already told you a little bit, 47 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:26,880 the answer has to do with probability waves. 48 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,270 So it's very strange that the fundamental equation 49 00:03:30,270 --> 00:03:33,860 for a wave that represents a particle is not 50 00:03:33,860 --> 00:03:37,770 an electric field or a sound wave or this, 51 00:03:37,770 --> 00:03:42,410 it's for all of them is a probability wave. 52 00:03:42,410 --> 00:03:44,060 Very, very surprising. 53 00:03:44,060 --> 00:03:48,230 But that's what de Broglie's ideas led to. 54 00:03:48,230 --> 00:03:56,410 So if you had a photon, you would say it's a particle, 55 00:03:56,410 --> 00:03:58,240 and when you think of it as a particle, 56 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,580 you would say it's a bundle of some energy and some momentum. 57 00:04:03,580 --> 00:04:07,160 And if you think of it as a wave, 58 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,080 you would say it has a frequency. 59 00:04:14,010 --> 00:04:18,300 And that's a particle wave duality or in some sense, 60 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:23,220 a particle wave description of this 61 00:04:23,220 --> 00:04:27,090 object-- you have a particle and a wave at the same time. 62 00:04:27,090 --> 00:04:31,030 When we have this, we have a particle wave duality. 63 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:37,350 And de Broglie said that this is universal for all particles. 64 00:04:37,350 --> 00:04:40,800 Universal. 65 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,955 And it appeared the name of matter waves. 66 00:04:48,300 --> 00:04:52,380 These are the matter waves that we're going to try to discuss. 67 00:04:52,380 --> 00:04:54,600 These are the waves of something that 68 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,670 are probability amplitudes we're going to try to discuss. 69 00:04:57,670 --> 00:05:00,225 So you could say wave of what? 70 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,470 What. 71 00:05:05,470 --> 00:05:07,680 And that comes later, but the answer 72 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:16,020 is probability amplitudes, those complex numbers whose squares 73 00:05:16,020 --> 00:05:17,970 are probabilities. 74 00:05:17,970 --> 00:05:21,980 So just like we had for a photon, 75 00:05:21,980 --> 00:05:28,620 de Broglie's idea was that we would associate to a particle 76 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:33,180 a wave that depends on the momentum. 77 00:05:33,180 --> 00:05:36,540 So remember, the Compton wavelength 78 00:05:36,540 --> 00:05:38,340 was a universal-- for any particle, 79 00:05:38,340 --> 00:05:41,070 the Compton wavelength is just one number, 80 00:05:41,070 --> 00:05:44,010 but just for photons, the wavelength depends 81 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:47,850 on the momentum, so in general, it should 82 00:05:47,850 --> 00:05:49,480 be dependent on the momentum. 83 00:05:49,480 --> 00:06:00,780 So we say that for a particle of momentum p, 84 00:06:00,780 --> 00:06:04,720 we associate a wave-- 85 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,410 a plane wave, in fact-- 86 00:06:07,410 --> 00:06:11,950 a plane wave, so we're getting a little more technical, 87 00:06:11,950 --> 00:06:17,080 with of lambda equals h over p, which 88 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,500 is the de Broglie wavelength-- 89 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:25,526 de Broglie wavelength. 90 00:06:33,340 --> 00:06:38,860 So it's a pretty daring statement. 91 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:44,500 It was his PhD thesis and there was no experimental evidence 92 00:06:44,500 --> 00:06:47,090 for it. 93 00:06:47,090 --> 00:06:49,340 It was a very natural conjecture-- 94 00:06:49,340 --> 00:06:53,360 we'll discuss it a lot more next lecture-- 95 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,950 but there are very little evidence for it. 96 00:06:57,950 --> 00:07:03,440 So experiments can a few years later, 97 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:11,240 and people saw that you could interfere or diffract 98 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,610 electrons. 99 00:07:13,610 --> 00:07:18,630 They would behave, colliding into lattices like waves, 100 00:07:18,630 --> 00:07:21,410 and those are rather famous experiments 101 00:07:21,410 --> 00:07:24,620 of Davisson and Germer. 102 00:07:24,620 --> 00:07:29,600 So particles, just like you do as an interference effect-- 103 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,810 a two slit interference effect in which 104 00:07:32,810 --> 00:07:38,600 you have a screen, a slit and a screen, and you shine photons 105 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:44,270 and then you get an interference effect over here 106 00:07:44,270 --> 00:07:47,240 because of the wave nature of photons, 107 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,760 or in quantum mechanics, you would 108 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,270 say, because there are probability amplitudes, that 109 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:56,780 are complex numbers that have to be interfered 110 00:07:56,780 --> 00:07:59,660 between the possibilities of the two paths, 111 00:07:59,660 --> 00:08:03,200 because every photon goes through both paths 112 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:09,260 at the same time, these experiments of interference, 113 00:08:09,260 --> 00:08:15,960 or two slit interference, were done for electrons. 114 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,770 And then, eventually, they've been 115 00:08:18,770 --> 00:08:21,800 done for bigger and bigger particles, 116 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,900 so that it's not just something that you do 117 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:26,270 with elementary particles now. 118 00:08:26,270 --> 00:08:33,970 There's experiments done about three years ago-- 119 00:08:33,970 --> 00:08:38,720 I will put on the web site or on the notes some of these things 120 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,480 so that you can see them, but now 121 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,640 you can throw in molecules here, molecules 122 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:52,880 that have a weight of now 10,000 atomic mass units, like 10,000 123 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,190 protons, like hundreds of-- 124 00:08:55,190 --> 00:09:01,080 430 atom molecules, and you can get an interference pattern, 125 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,480 so it's pretty ridiculous. 126 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,450 It's almost like, you one day so you throw a baseball 127 00:09:06,450 --> 00:09:08,450 and you're going to see an interference pattern, 128 00:09:08,450 --> 00:09:10,490 but, you know, we've got to things 129 00:09:10,490 --> 00:09:15,920 with about 10,000 hydrogen atoms and de Broglie 130 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:22,220 wavelengths of 1 picometer, which are pretty unbelievable. 131 00:09:22,220 --> 00:09:26,840 So the experiments are done with those particles and in fact 132 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,920 with electrons. 133 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,740 People do those experiments and they're 134 00:09:30,740 --> 00:09:33,830 in very beautiful movies in which you 135 00:09:33,830 --> 00:09:40,040 see those electrons hitting on the screen and then-- 136 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,470 I'll give you some links so you can find them as well-- 137 00:09:43,470 --> 00:09:45,590 and you see one electron falls here 138 00:09:45,590 --> 00:09:48,720 and it gets detected and two electrons, three electrons, 139 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,850 four electrons, five electrons, six electrons-- by the time 140 00:09:52,850 --> 00:09:57,620 you get 10,000 electrons, you see lots of electrons 141 00:09:57,620 --> 00:10:00,360 here, very well here, lots of electrons 142 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,740 here, and the whole interference pattern is created 143 00:10:03,740 --> 00:10:07,850 by sending one electron at that time in an experiment that 144 00:10:07,850 --> 00:10:10,190 takes several hours and it's reduced 145 00:10:10,190 --> 00:10:13,250 to a movie of about one minute. 146 00:10:13,250 --> 00:10:19,100 So particles, big particles interfere, not just photons 147 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:20,000 interfere. 148 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,720 So those particles have some waves, 149 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,860 some matter waves discovered by de Broglie, and next lecture, 150 00:10:27,860 --> 00:10:30,410 we're going to track the story from de 151 00:10:30,410 --> 00:10:33,290 Broglie to the Schrodinger equation 152 00:10:33,290 --> 00:10:37,900 where the nature of the wave suddenly becomes clear.