1 00:00:00,030 --> 00:00:02,400 The following content is provided under a Creative 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,780 Commons license. 3 00:00:03,780 --> 00:00:06,020 Your support will help MIT OpenCourseWare 4 00:00:06,020 --> 00:00:10,090 continue to offer high quality educational resources for free. 5 00:00:10,090 --> 00:00:12,670 To make a donation or to view additional materials 6 00:00:12,670 --> 00:00:16,416 from hundreds of MIT courses, visit MIT OpenCourseWare 7 00:00:16,416 --> 00:00:17,040 at ocw.mit.edu. 8 00:00:21,150 --> 00:00:23,220 BOB JONES: I was working in this consulting firm. 9 00:00:23,220 --> 00:00:25,410 I got bored. 10 00:00:25,410 --> 00:00:27,280 I wanted to go start a business, and I 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,100 said it's not like I'm in my dorm room. 12 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:35,150 It's not like I haven't done this before, 13 00:00:35,150 --> 00:00:38,840 so I need to be sensible about it this time. 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,070 Because I've had start-ups that succeeded 15 00:00:41,070 --> 00:00:44,000 and start-ups that failed, and I like the successes more than 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,390 I like the failures. 17 00:00:45,390 --> 00:00:50,570 So I interviewed a bunch of people, scientists, marketing 18 00:00:50,570 --> 00:00:53,390 types, et cetera and came up with about 15 ideas 19 00:00:53,390 --> 00:00:55,000 and said that's too many. 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,920 I need some filters. 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,320 The first filter was I need to solve the right problem, 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,940 because I'm good enough at operations 23 00:01:01,940 --> 00:01:03,315 that I'm going to hit the target. 24 00:01:03,315 --> 00:01:06,890 But it's embarrassing if you pick the wrong target. 25 00:01:06,890 --> 00:01:09,080 So my definition of the right problem 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,419 is that you would cheerfully pay for the solution 27 00:01:11,419 --> 00:01:12,710 and you will tell your friends. 28 00:01:15,390 --> 00:01:17,400 So I can lower your cholesterol with 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,660 a nutritional intervention. 30 00:01:18,660 --> 00:01:21,600 It's not the right target, because you don't care. 31 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,554 You'll forget to take it, your medication, most of the time, 32 00:01:24,554 --> 00:01:26,970 and you're never going to talk about it with your friends. 33 00:01:26,970 --> 00:01:30,170 And I can't afford to educate you, because I'm a start up. 34 00:01:30,170 --> 00:01:34,510 If your back hurts, ooh, that's a whole different matter. 35 00:01:34,510 --> 00:01:36,400 Because if I can help you with something 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,050 that makes your back stop hurting, 37 00:01:38,050 --> 00:01:39,356 you will cheerfully pay for it. 38 00:01:39,356 --> 00:01:40,480 You will tell your friends. 39 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,120 And if furthermore I can set it up so 40 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,140 that when you stop taking my stuff your back starts hurting, 41 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:48,370 that's the right target. 42 00:01:48,370 --> 00:01:52,420 Second filter, I have to be able solve the problem. 43 00:01:52,420 --> 00:01:56,830 So if I had an enzyme that metabolized gluten, 44 00:01:56,830 --> 00:02:00,500 I would be speaking to you today from my yacht. 45 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:02,960 So that one's off the table. 46 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,680 That killed all but about five of the ideas. 47 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,400 The remaining filter was somebody besides me 48 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,350 thinks this company is a cool idea 49 00:02:11,350 --> 00:02:14,080 and will buy it if I don't screw it up. 50 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,610 So the last thing I did was took the remaining ideas 51 00:02:17,610 --> 00:02:21,450 and called some senior execs that I was friendly with, 52 00:02:21,450 --> 00:02:24,190 had companies that could, well, one day 53 00:02:24,190 --> 00:02:28,450 buy the business-- Procter & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, 54 00:02:28,450 --> 00:02:31,705 Pepsi, et cetera-- and said, I'm having some ideas. 55 00:02:31,705 --> 00:02:33,330 I'd like to hear your thoughts on them. 56 00:02:33,330 --> 00:02:35,387 I'm not selling anything. 57 00:02:35,387 --> 00:02:36,970 Well, I knew you were up to something. 58 00:02:36,970 --> 00:02:38,340 What are you doing? 59 00:02:38,340 --> 00:02:40,760 And when I would offer an idea, if I 60 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,750 would hear crickets and-- OK, on to the next idea. 61 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:48,770 That's how we arrived at sleep. 62 00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:51,580 There's somewhere between 50 and 70 million people in the US 63 00:02:51,580 --> 00:02:55,380 that have trouble sleeping, and they complain about it. 64 00:02:55,380 --> 00:02:57,890 And nobody has to tell them the benefits of a good night's 65 00:02:57,890 --> 00:02:58,390 sleep. 66 00:02:58,390 --> 00:03:00,580 Everybody just feels better, and there 67 00:03:00,580 --> 00:03:03,570 are nutritional interventions that will solve the problem. 68 00:03:03,570 --> 00:03:05,280 And the companies I talked to said 69 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,700 if you don't screw this up, we'd like to be first in line 70 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:10,290 to talk to you in about two years. 71 00:03:10,290 --> 00:03:14,720 So with that as background, I had several businesses 72 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,800 in the past where we made nutrition bars 73 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,290 and sold them through clinicians. 74 00:03:18,290 --> 00:03:22,360 So my business model was let's make a nutrition bar, 75 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,850 and let's sell it through clinicians. 76 00:03:24,850 --> 00:03:26,392 But I talked to a number of consumers 77 00:03:26,392 --> 00:03:28,391 and said, how do you feel about eating something 78 00:03:28,391 --> 00:03:30,720 at 10:00 or 10:30 at night that will have you asleep 79 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:31,515 a half hour later? 80 00:03:31,515 --> 00:03:34,800 And most of them said I don't feel so good about that. 81 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,560 I don't like the idea of eating something. 82 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,650 OK, what would you like? 83 00:03:39,650 --> 00:03:42,950 Well, you know those little 5 Hour Energy drink things? 84 00:03:42,950 --> 00:03:46,230 Make me one of those, except with the opposite effect. 85 00:03:46,230 --> 00:03:49,270 Oops, looks like I'm in the beverage business. 86 00:03:49,270 --> 00:03:54,230 OK, well so maybe what I can do here 87 00:03:54,230 --> 00:03:58,230 is find the clinicians that you are seeing about the fact 88 00:03:58,230 --> 00:04:00,020 that you're having trouble sleeping, 89 00:04:00,020 --> 00:04:01,990 and I can do what I did before. 90 00:04:01,990 --> 00:04:04,870 My business model will be I will call on the clinicians. 91 00:04:04,870 --> 00:04:06,920 The clinicians will say, this is fabulous. 92 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,380 I will tell my patients. 93 00:04:08,380 --> 00:04:09,950 The patients will want to buy it. 94 00:04:09,950 --> 00:04:11,630 One day I will call Walgreens. 95 00:04:11,630 --> 00:04:12,520 We'll stock it there. 96 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,920 We've done this before. 97 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,399 You may remember a little while ago 98 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:20,060 I said I had a really bad five or six weeks where everybody 99 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:22,220 told me no. 100 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:26,910 I called doctors, nurses, physical therapists, 101 00:04:26,910 --> 00:04:28,090 dietitians. 102 00:04:28,090 --> 00:04:31,470 I went to assisted living facilities and retirement 103 00:04:31,470 --> 00:04:34,340 communities and talked to resident care directors. 104 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:37,220 And without exception, I was told no. 105 00:04:40,190 --> 00:04:42,440 People don't talk to their doctor about sleep. 106 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,900 They talk to their doctor about their ear ache. 107 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:47,010 If they do talk to their doctor about sleep, 108 00:04:47,010 --> 00:04:49,990 the doctor runs for cover, because he doesn't 109 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:51,720 know how to solve the problem. 110 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,110 And he's been trained that this is a symptom of something else. 111 00:04:55,110 --> 00:04:57,420 You are depressed and you need a therapist, 112 00:04:57,420 --> 00:05:01,140 or you have sleep apnea and you need one of those Darth Vader 113 00:05:01,140 --> 00:05:04,210 devices that blows positive air pressure 114 00:05:04,210 --> 00:05:07,190 and it keeps you from having apnea. 115 00:05:07,190 --> 00:05:09,550 So let's refer you to somebody else next. 116 00:05:09,550 --> 00:05:11,850 So nobody was willing to talk about our intervention. 117 00:05:15,370 --> 00:05:17,170 This was the point-- at this point, 118 00:05:17,170 --> 00:05:19,170 we had made our minimum viable product, 119 00:05:19,170 --> 00:05:20,890 and we were offering free samples. 120 00:05:20,890 --> 00:05:23,860 And they didn't want it even if it was free, 121 00:05:23,860 --> 00:05:27,430 so clearly the business model was flawed. 122 00:05:27,430 --> 00:05:30,320 We weren't going to be able to get it into Walgreens or places 123 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,770 like that if we couldn't find any customers. 124 00:05:32,770 --> 00:05:36,150 And the route I had chosen to get to the customers 125 00:05:36,150 --> 00:05:37,108 was not working. 126 00:05:39,980 --> 00:05:42,160 Nevertheless, there were people who 127 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:47,520 were calling us back and buying our minimum viable product. 128 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,360 The one that looks bad tastes bad, 129 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,330 and because the little manufacturer spilled 130 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:54,610 a little solution on the threads and it dried into something 131 00:05:54,610 --> 00:05:58,790 like superglue, you need a vise grips to get the cap off. 132 00:05:58,790 --> 00:06:01,960 People were buying it anyway. 133 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,810 Clearly we had something there, so it 134 00:06:04,810 --> 00:06:08,030 was time to address the business model of what is it we have, 135 00:06:08,030 --> 00:06:11,920 and to whom should we be marketing it, and how. 136 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,670 Along the way I ended up in a conversation with Whole Foods. 137 00:06:16,670 --> 00:06:19,740 Because when I was running a soy foods company 138 00:06:19,740 --> 00:06:23,980 I sold a lot of tofu to them, and I knew them. 139 00:06:23,980 --> 00:06:24,860 So I thought, oh, OK. 140 00:06:24,860 --> 00:06:25,860 We'll put this together. 141 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:28,270 We'll sell it through Whole Foods. 142 00:06:28,270 --> 00:06:30,820 But who is our customer? 143 00:06:30,820 --> 00:06:33,860 We did a lot of work, a lot of interviews, 144 00:06:33,860 --> 00:06:37,270 got told no some more and concluded 145 00:06:37,270 --> 00:06:39,540 that there are a number of niche markets here 146 00:06:39,540 --> 00:06:40,540 that we could work with. 147 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:44,640 But the one where we were going to start was working moms, 148 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,710 and not working moms who have infants or toddlers at home. 149 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:51,040 They expect to be tired, and they 150 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,656 want to be able to wake up if the baby's not 151 00:06:53,656 --> 00:06:54,780 sleeping through the night. 152 00:06:54,780 --> 00:06:55,720 So forget it. 153 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,250 But once their kids are preschool, kindergarten, 154 00:06:58,250 --> 00:07:03,410 or older, they've got the hardest job on earth. 155 00:07:03,410 --> 00:07:05,500 Most of them have husbands who don't shop, 156 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:10,740 don't cook, don't pick up their socks, so they're hardworking. 157 00:07:10,740 --> 00:07:12,450 They're daytime professionals. 158 00:07:12,450 --> 00:07:13,945 They're fussy about what they buy 159 00:07:13,945 --> 00:07:15,320 and what they bring in the house. 160 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,720 They do shop at Whole Foods. 161 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,670 It looks like the right market for us. 162 00:07:18,670 --> 00:07:24,050 So in my conversation with Whole Foods, 163 00:07:24,050 --> 00:07:25,820 I was pretty direct with them and said, 164 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:28,450 look, I can live a long and happy life 165 00:07:28,450 --> 00:07:30,567 and never put my products on your shelf. 166 00:07:30,567 --> 00:07:32,900 The moral of the point, I don't want to be on your shelf 167 00:07:32,900 --> 00:07:34,590 if it doesn't make sense. 168 00:07:34,590 --> 00:07:37,010 So really the purpose of this meeting in my view 169 00:07:37,010 --> 00:07:39,070 is to figure out will it ever make sense 170 00:07:39,070 --> 00:07:41,490 and if so, what's the trigger point. 171 00:07:41,490 --> 00:07:45,150 And the answer to that was when we see enough reorders 172 00:07:45,150 --> 00:07:51,660 through Amazon to show that there's a there there, 173 00:07:51,660 --> 00:07:53,030 come back and see them. 174 00:07:53,030 --> 00:07:53,797 Keep them posted. 175 00:07:53,797 --> 00:07:54,880 They'll remain interested. 176 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,080 We are after all friends, and it's a provocative idea. 177 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,980 So the revised business model now having 178 00:08:01,980 --> 00:08:04,540 gone through this postulate the idea, 179 00:08:04,540 --> 00:08:06,240 develop a minimum viable product, 180 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,010 shake it down in the marketplace, 181 00:08:08,010 --> 00:08:12,390 identify the target is we're reaching working 182 00:08:12,390 --> 00:08:15,290 moms via mommy bloggers. 183 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:17,420 We've identified 100 of them, some of whom 184 00:08:17,420 --> 00:08:20,550 have as many as 100,000 followers. 185 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:22,640 There's also all manner of social media ways 186 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,980 to reach working moms. 187 00:08:23,980 --> 00:08:26,540 So working moms, we're reaching them. 188 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:29,250 We're selling the product through our website which 189 00:08:29,250 --> 00:08:32,039 will be a minuscule percentage and through Amazon 190 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:35,730 until such point as we have enough of a reorder stream 191 00:08:35,730 --> 00:08:39,250 to make a justifiable approach to Whole Foods 192 00:08:39,250 --> 00:08:40,799 and other retailers. 193 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:44,590 Shortly after that, we hope to sell the business. 194 00:08:44,590 --> 00:08:48,580 So Rich, that's sort of an impromptu summary of how 195 00:08:48,580 --> 00:08:51,200 our business model morphed and pivoted, 196 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,240 and it's a work in process. 197 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,328 So if you don't have anything else to do, wish us luck. 198 00:08:56,328 --> 00:08:57,244 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]. 199 00:08:59,925 --> 00:09:00,800 BOB JONES: Thank you. 200 00:09:04,245 --> 00:09:05,620 PROFESSOR: So the reason I wanted 201 00:09:05,620 --> 00:09:08,810 Bob to tell you about that is to reemphasize 202 00:09:08,810 --> 00:09:11,670 this is not just an academic exercise. 203 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:14,660 He told you about how he succeeded before. 204 00:09:14,660 --> 00:09:16,430 He told you how he failed the first time. 205 00:09:16,430 --> 00:09:18,020 He did something different the second. 206 00:09:18,020 --> 00:09:20,320 He took the second model into the third market, 207 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,570 which turned out not to be the right thing for that market. 208 00:09:23,570 --> 00:09:24,730 And he's reinventing it. 209 00:09:24,730 --> 00:09:27,280 And it's been an interesting thing. 210 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,290 So what we say up here, we're not giving you 211 00:09:30,290 --> 00:09:31,490 a formula on how to do it. 212 00:09:31,490 --> 00:09:34,270 We're trying to get you to think about these kind of issues, 213 00:09:34,270 --> 00:09:37,640 and this is an example of an in-process thing. 214 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,690 And it's been an interesting route. 215 00:09:40,690 --> 00:09:47,550 Bob, any other comments or people from the audience? 216 00:09:47,550 --> 00:09:49,390 BOB JONES: It's practically a reality TV 217 00:09:51,281 --> 00:09:53,114 RICH KIVEL: What were some of the learnings? 218 00:09:53,114 --> 00:09:57,050 It sounds like you modified the business model throughout. 219 00:09:57,050 --> 00:10:00,986 There were learnings [INAUDIBLE] You integrated 220 00:10:00,986 --> 00:10:02,462 different approaches. 221 00:10:02,462 --> 00:10:05,831 What were some of the learnings that came out of that? 222 00:10:05,831 --> 00:10:07,330 What would you have done differently 223 00:10:07,330 --> 00:10:10,730 if you were relaunching it today? 224 00:10:10,730 --> 00:10:12,117 PROFESSOR: Rich, is your mic on? 225 00:10:12,117 --> 00:10:12,700 BOB JONES: OK. 226 00:10:12,700 --> 00:10:15,150 Rich's question, for those of you 227 00:10:15,150 --> 00:10:17,620 who may not have heard it from the back of the room, 228 00:10:17,620 --> 00:10:20,210 was what were some of my learnings so far? 229 00:10:20,210 --> 00:10:23,010 And if I were to relaunch the business today, what would 230 00:10:23,010 --> 00:10:25,390 I do differently? 231 00:10:25,390 --> 00:10:36,460 And I think that most entrepreneurs are stubborn. 232 00:10:36,460 --> 00:10:37,996 I'm no exception to that. 233 00:10:44,090 --> 00:10:49,360 Well, you almost never tackle something 234 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,730 that's going to be easy. 235 00:10:51,730 --> 00:10:56,180 And I have a guy on my business advisory board 236 00:10:56,180 --> 00:11:02,810 who will give me 10 reasons why every idea I have will fail, 237 00:11:02,810 --> 00:11:05,790 and why every suggestion I make is dumb. 238 00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:09,000 And it's quite useful because eight of the 10 things 239 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,370 he'll rattle off, I've thought about and addressed. 240 00:11:11,370 --> 00:11:14,730 And two of them I think, ooh, I'd better think about that. 241 00:11:14,730 --> 00:11:17,740 But you have to be willing to walk through walls 242 00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:19,110 because it's hard. 243 00:11:19,110 --> 00:11:21,950 And most of you will fail. 244 00:11:21,950 --> 00:11:24,200 I did. 245 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,505 You'll just need to decide that as a jockey, 246 00:11:26,505 --> 00:11:28,840 you need a different horse. 247 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,490 But I found something that worked. 248 00:11:32,490 --> 00:11:34,460 And I went out and proudly talked about it 249 00:11:34,460 --> 00:11:36,450 to the investment community. 250 00:11:36,450 --> 00:11:38,130 And then I tried it. 251 00:11:38,130 --> 00:11:39,270 And I tried it. 252 00:11:39,270 --> 00:11:40,900 And I tried it. 253 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:42,410 And it didn't work. 254 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:44,720 So one of the things I would have done differently, 255 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,370 were I to do it again, would have 256 00:11:47,370 --> 00:11:50,910 been to test the idea right from the get-go, 257 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:53,600 rather than just assuming that because it had worked 258 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,840 in the past, that this market and this group of people 259 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,084 was like the last market and the last group of people. 260 00:12:00,084 --> 00:12:01,084 PROFESSOR: That's great. 261 00:12:07,390 --> 00:12:08,960 BOB JONES: Yes sir. 262 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,001 AUDIENCE: It seems like most of it is [INAUDIBLE] 263 00:12:25,314 --> 00:12:27,230 BOB JONES: I don't really know how to do that. 264 00:12:27,230 --> 00:12:31,620 What I like is translating science, 265 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:33,830 which is somewhere near to the leading edge, 266 00:12:33,830 --> 00:12:35,795 into something that consumers can buy. 267 00:12:35,795 --> 00:12:37,920 And I don't want to get metaphysical with you here. 268 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,670 But I think there are some really fundamental things 269 00:12:40,670 --> 00:12:42,960 wrong with our health care system. 270 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,070 And we don't often enough provide consumers with stuff 271 00:12:47,070 --> 00:12:50,420 they can buy, which works, without a prescription. 272 00:12:50,420 --> 00:12:52,950 And I like being in that arena. 273 00:12:52,950 --> 00:12:55,770 And I like being able to understand what consumers want 274 00:12:55,770 --> 00:12:59,930 and translating some fairly serious science-- 275 00:12:59,930 --> 00:13:01,940 it's pretty sophisticated biochemistry 276 00:13:01,940 --> 00:13:04,580 in our little beverage for sleep-- into something 277 00:13:04,580 --> 00:13:08,350 that we can describe without going into all the science. 278 00:13:08,350 --> 00:13:10,440 So I actually don't know. 279 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,120 I don't really have any experience 280 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,571 selling the one-off stuff. 281 00:13:13,571 --> 00:13:16,070 So with that as background, I'm going to duck your question. 282 00:13:16,070 --> 00:13:18,189 I don't know. 283 00:13:18,189 --> 00:13:19,230 There was maybe one more. 284 00:13:19,230 --> 00:13:20,642 Yes, sir? 285 00:13:20,642 --> 00:13:21,624 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 286 00:13:44,220 --> 00:13:46,510 BOB JONES: We had three ingredients in the product. 287 00:13:46,510 --> 00:13:50,190 And there were published papers on the action 288 00:13:50,190 --> 00:13:51,790 of each of the three. 289 00:13:51,790 --> 00:13:55,090 So sucrose gets metabolized here. 290 00:13:55,090 --> 00:13:57,570 Protein gets metabolized here. 291 00:13:57,570 --> 00:14:01,070 And gluconeogenesis runs through the liver, blah, blah, blah. 292 00:14:01,070 --> 00:14:04,580 And uncooked corn starch with its complex double bonds 293 00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:08,390 takes a far longer period of time to metabolize. 294 00:14:08,390 --> 00:14:10,670 And we would show the papers to the clinicians. 295 00:14:10,670 --> 00:14:13,410 And they'd say, well this is a no-brainer. 296 00:14:13,410 --> 00:14:15,240 First of all it's just a food. 297 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,370 So it won't hurt you. 298 00:14:17,370 --> 00:14:18,640 It costs $1.00. 299 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,440 Might help. 300 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,740 Go for it. 301 00:14:20,740 --> 00:14:23,460 That was all the resistance we found. 302 00:14:23,460 --> 00:14:25,410 There were maybe 3% of the doctors 303 00:14:25,410 --> 00:14:28,760 out there that we called on who said, 304 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,470 when you got a clinical trial on it, call us back. 305 00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:33,620 And we did in fact eventually do a clinical trial 306 00:14:33,620 --> 00:14:35,460 with the Joslin Diabetes Institute. 307 00:14:35,460 --> 00:14:36,950 It did what it was supposed to do. 308 00:14:36,950 --> 00:14:39,590 But as an entrepreneur, I was unwilling to wait. 309 00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:41,370 Let's get in the market. 310 00:14:41,370 --> 00:14:45,430 My measure of whether or not it works is, do they reorder it? 311 00:14:48,276 --> 00:14:48,900 PROFESSOR: Hey. 312 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:50,170 Thank you, Bob. 313 00:14:50,170 --> 00:14:56,910 [APPLAUSE] 314 00:14:56,910 --> 00:15:00,670 OK, so now segueing from what Bob told you 315 00:15:00,670 --> 00:15:03,230 about he's doing to find customers and everything, 316 00:15:03,230 --> 00:15:05,000 the question again is business models. 317 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,770 And tonight we have Rich Kivel, who I've known for many years. 318 00:15:09,770 --> 00:15:13,970 Originally an internet IT technology entrepreneur, 319 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:18,571 moved into the medical area and bio, 320 00:15:18,571 --> 00:15:21,230 and more recently into the financial technology area. 321 00:15:21,230 --> 00:15:24,590 So Rich Kivel-- his bio is on the website. 322 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:26,990 And his topic is business models. 323 00:15:26,990 --> 00:15:27,850 Take it away, Rich. 324 00:15:27,850 --> 00:15:29,370 RICH KIVEL: Thank you very much. 325 00:15:29,370 --> 00:15:29,870 Great. 326 00:15:29,870 --> 00:15:31,970 Can everybody hear me OK? 327 00:15:31,970 --> 00:15:32,470 All right. 328 00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:33,594 It's great to be back here. 329 00:15:33,594 --> 00:15:36,239 I've had the privilege of doing this class with Joe for-- he's 330 00:15:36,239 --> 00:15:37,530 invited me back for many years. 331 00:15:37,530 --> 00:15:39,560 I won't say how many, but many, many years. 332 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,670 So it's also great to be here, being the 25th year of it. 333 00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:47,510 Has anybody here actually attended this class before? 334 00:15:47,510 --> 00:15:48,050 All right. 335 00:15:48,050 --> 00:15:48,410 That's good. 336 00:15:48,410 --> 00:15:50,034 So I could tell some of the same jokes. 337 00:15:50,034 --> 00:15:53,481 And I will actually get laughs out of them. [INAUDIBLE] 338 00:15:53,481 --> 00:15:54,980 So first of all, I want to start off 339 00:15:54,980 --> 00:15:56,920 because I love social media. 340 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,650 And I'm going to include you in my social media 341 00:15:59,650 --> 00:16:00,430 life a little bit. 342 00:16:00,430 --> 00:16:03,160 So everybody here uses Twitter, yes? 343 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,170 Or most of you? 344 00:16:04,170 --> 00:16:05,180 That's our hashtag. 345 00:16:05,180 --> 00:16:09,900 So on the count of three, I want you guys all to cheer and yell 346 00:16:09,900 --> 00:16:13,790 in a congratulatory way for Joe celebrating the 25th year 347 00:16:13,790 --> 00:16:15,030 of this class, all right? 348 00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:17,585 One, two, three. 349 00:16:17,585 --> 00:16:23,180 AUDIENCE: [CHEERING AND YELLING] 350 00:16:23,180 --> 00:16:25,026 RICH KIVEL: You guys. 351 00:16:25,026 --> 00:16:25,940 I love it. 352 00:16:25,940 --> 00:16:26,835 Joe, that is live. 353 00:16:26,835 --> 00:16:27,710 That was outstanding. 354 00:16:30,260 --> 00:16:32,820 So what I get to talk about today is actually kind of fun. 355 00:16:32,820 --> 00:16:34,930 It's business models. 356 00:16:34,930 --> 00:16:37,470 And unlike a lot of aspects of business, 357 00:16:37,470 --> 00:16:41,120 business models themselves, they change all the time. 358 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,900 And as a matter of fact, they become 359 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:45,360 an incredibly intricate and important part 360 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,230 of how a business succeeds or fails, which is something new. 361 00:16:49,230 --> 00:16:53,950 As I've worked around MIT for the past 15 or more years, 362 00:16:53,950 --> 00:16:57,230 so often the researchers, scientists, 363 00:16:57,230 --> 00:17:00,660 engineers that I speak with are so focused on their product, 364 00:17:00,660 --> 00:17:03,610 their technology, the intricacies 365 00:17:03,610 --> 00:17:07,119 of a particular design, that they actually 366 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,010 don't think about the customer. 367 00:17:09,010 --> 00:17:10,060 And they don't think about how it's ever 368 00:17:10,060 --> 00:17:11,185 going to get to the market. 369 00:17:11,185 --> 00:17:14,030 They're more interested in can they actually get 370 00:17:14,030 --> 00:17:20,560 that new particular engineering-physics combined 371 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,170 technology to do something they never did before. 372 00:17:23,170 --> 00:17:25,150 Can they get that particular molecule 373 00:17:25,150 --> 00:17:26,400 to operate in a certain way? 374 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,300 Or can they get that thin film polymer 375 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:32,180 to elude a particular drug? 376 00:17:32,180 --> 00:17:34,000 And that's fantastic. 377 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,210 But very often we forget about how 378 00:17:36,210 --> 00:17:39,540 do we actually impact the world with our technologies, 379 00:17:39,540 --> 00:17:42,490 whether it be internet technologies, applications, 380 00:17:42,490 --> 00:17:45,630 hardware, software, biotechnology. 381 00:17:45,630 --> 00:17:48,160 So business models are really the foundation of that. 382 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,050 And very often that's left to business students. 383 00:17:51,050 --> 00:17:53,180 And one of the wonderful things about MIT 384 00:17:53,180 --> 00:17:55,470 is that there's this great convergence, where 385 00:17:55,470 --> 00:17:58,630 business students actually have discussions 386 00:17:58,630 --> 00:18:01,580 with engineers and scientists and researchers and vice versa. 387 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:03,510 And that doesn't happen everywhere. 388 00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:04,930 So we take it for granted here. 389 00:18:04,930 --> 00:18:06,730 So I'm very privileged to come and talk 390 00:18:06,730 --> 00:18:08,400 to you about business models. 391 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,870 My background, as Joe said is-- I started my career 392 00:18:11,870 --> 00:18:14,670 in technology, and then moved very much 393 00:18:14,670 --> 00:18:19,300 into bioscience, biotechnology, bioinformatics, diagnostics. 394 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:22,660 I spent about the past 10 years doing that. 395 00:18:22,660 --> 00:18:25,650 I took two years off, and was focused specifically 396 00:18:25,650 --> 00:18:27,725 on the financial services industries. 397 00:18:27,725 --> 00:18:31,460 So I worked for a very large fund in Westport, Connecticut. 398 00:18:31,460 --> 00:18:33,170 Now back in the Boston area. 399 00:18:33,170 --> 00:18:37,710 And now focused again more on not only funding and financing 400 00:18:37,710 --> 00:18:40,060 of early-stage development companies, 401 00:18:40,060 --> 00:18:43,020 but also in identifying great intellectual property 402 00:18:43,020 --> 00:18:46,830 and technology, all-around science and research. 403 00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:49,240 So today's talk is going to be about business models. 404 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,670 And I'm hoping to share some insights with you. 405 00:18:51,670 --> 00:18:54,480 Essentially this is how I think of these things. 406 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,680 We start off with a whole bunch of disparate data points. 407 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,630 We call that information. 408 00:18:59,630 --> 00:19:02,520 Hopefully we begin to connect those dots. 409 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,310 It's almost like a pointillist painting, where 410 00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:07,667 you have thousands of dots. 411 00:19:07,667 --> 00:19:09,250 And then slowly as they come together, 412 00:19:09,250 --> 00:19:10,220 they start to connect. 413 00:19:10,220 --> 00:19:12,320 And then ultimately out of that, you have wisdom. 414 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,850 You have an image that is created out of that. 415 00:19:15,850 --> 00:19:17,520 What I hope to do today is provide you 416 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,850 each of those three-- information, knowledge, 417 00:19:19,850 --> 00:19:21,300 and wisdom. 418 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:23,880 So let's start off with a simple foundation. 419 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,300 And the foundation is to say this-- many definitions 420 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:30,181 of a business model exist. 421 00:19:30,181 --> 00:19:32,430 The one that I like the most is simply this-- a method 422 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:34,970 by which a firm uses its resources-- cash, 423 00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:38,160 technology, its people-- to offer its customers better 424 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:43,100 value than its competitors, and make money doing so. 425 00:19:43,100 --> 00:19:46,846 It tells who pays how much, and how often do they pay. 426 00:19:46,846 --> 00:19:48,220 For those of you that are looking 427 00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:51,810 to start companies, or even begin to work for companies, 428 00:19:51,810 --> 00:19:53,560 especially early-stage companies, 429 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,690 the question that the board, the investors, 430 00:19:55,690 --> 00:19:58,870 the new employee coming in the door are going to ask 431 00:19:58,870 --> 00:20:00,500 is, what do you do? 432 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:01,380 Who do you sell to? 433 00:20:01,380 --> 00:20:03,430 And how do you make money? 434 00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:05,360 It's pretty simple. 435 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:07,460 The how do you make money part is often 436 00:20:07,460 --> 00:20:09,500 the challenge for many start-ups. 437 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:11,016 They have very cool technology. 438 00:20:11,016 --> 00:20:13,440 They think they know who's going to buy it. 439 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,820 But they have no idea how they're 440 00:20:14,820 --> 00:20:17,392 going to get it in the hands of those individuals. 441 00:20:17,392 --> 00:20:18,850 Are they going to create a website? 442 00:20:18,850 --> 00:20:21,710 Are they going to join-- sign on to the app store? 443 00:20:21,710 --> 00:20:23,520 Are they going to go retail? 444 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,090 Are they going to use a distribution 445 00:20:25,090 --> 00:20:26,440 channel or partner? 446 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,627 That's the big crux of it. 447 00:20:28,627 --> 00:20:31,210 So that's the question you have to continue to think about is, 448 00:20:31,210 --> 00:20:35,960 how do we ultimately make money from what we are developing? 449 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,730 So what's changed a lot in the way 450 00:20:38,730 --> 00:20:41,800 we operate in this world is the way that companies operate, 451 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,244 the way that companies are formed and developed. 452 00:20:44,244 --> 00:20:46,410 And this chart is not really meant, in great detail, 453 00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:46,910 to be read. 454 00:20:46,910 --> 00:20:48,910 But overall, what you have here is 455 00:20:48,910 --> 00:20:53,790 an example of how over time, you have points of history where, 456 00:20:53,790 --> 00:20:56,840 as industries developed, changed, 457 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,810 they went away, what you had is different ways of communicating 458 00:21:00,810 --> 00:21:03,970 with the world, different ways of actually connecting 459 00:21:03,970 --> 00:21:05,570 with consumers. 460 00:21:05,570 --> 00:21:09,250 If you think about back in the days of merchants and mechanics 461 00:21:09,250 --> 00:21:11,700 and industrial businesses, the way 462 00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:14,740 they operated and communicated was much different. 463 00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:18,510 Retail stores existed, but in a very, very, very different way. 464 00:21:18,510 --> 00:21:20,820 They were family-run stores. 465 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:23,350 Most of the products and services we bought from 466 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:25,790 were from a few large retailers like Sears, 467 00:21:25,790 --> 00:21:27,490 whether that be your washer and dryer 468 00:21:27,490 --> 00:21:30,100 or your tools or other things. 469 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:33,590 As technology continued to mature, what you saw 470 00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:35,970 is the financial service industry becoming very, very 471 00:21:35,970 --> 00:21:37,144 sophisticated. 472 00:21:37,144 --> 00:21:38,560 And the financial service industry 473 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:44,800 began to allow us to see business in a global way. 474 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,210 Out of that came complex advertising campaigns, 475 00:21:48,210 --> 00:21:50,740 global marketing and distribution mechanisms. 476 00:21:50,740 --> 00:21:55,480 And what you saw is entirely new ways to buy and reach 477 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,120 the end user, the products. 478 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:00,580 What really changed is, at this end of the world, 479 00:22:00,580 --> 00:22:06,160 where you had technology, was then introduced in such a way 480 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,855 that distribution of goods-- ultimately the ability 481 00:22:09,855 --> 00:22:12,590 to connect an individual who wants a product 482 00:22:12,590 --> 00:22:15,240 or service to that product or service-- 483 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,600 the barriers of distance, the barriers of manufacturing 484 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,012 suddenly went away. 485 00:22:20,012 --> 00:22:21,970 The United States has probably done this better 486 00:22:21,970 --> 00:22:24,520 than almost any place in the world. 487 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,920 We can get something delivered tomorrow 488 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,380 that we ordered this afternoon at 11:00 AM or 1 o'clock 489 00:22:30,380 --> 00:22:35,440 in the afternoon, whether it be a product or service, because 490 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,860 of financial support and backing for those type 491 00:22:38,860 --> 00:22:42,740 of organizations, whether it be the manufacturers, the UPS, 492 00:22:42,740 --> 00:22:44,450 the FedEx, and others. 493 00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:47,654 The distribution channels have shrunk greatly. 494 00:22:47,654 --> 00:22:49,570 When I travel to different parts of the world, 495 00:22:49,570 --> 00:22:55,200 they find an amazing selection of products and services 496 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,000 that we have in the United States. 497 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,170 And when you go elsewhere, you notice how limited it is. 498 00:23:00,170 --> 00:23:01,670 If you're living in parts of Europe, 499 00:23:01,670 --> 00:23:03,330 if you're living in parts of Africa, 500 00:23:03,330 --> 00:23:06,570 parts of Asia, if you're living in most of Russia-- 501 00:23:06,570 --> 00:23:08,520 the ability to actually order something today 502 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:14,470 and see it arrives in the next month is very, very unlikely. 503 00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:16,470 And the more remote you are, the less likely 504 00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:18,060 it is it's ever going to reach you 505 00:23:18,060 --> 00:23:20,850 on time, or without being lost in some part 506 00:23:20,850 --> 00:23:22,260 of the distribution channel. 507 00:23:22,260 --> 00:23:24,260 So I encourage you to think about, 508 00:23:24,260 --> 00:23:26,860 as technology has changed and distribution channels 509 00:23:26,860 --> 00:23:29,280 have changed, it has impacted the way that we 510 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,020 operate and build companies. 511 00:23:32,020 --> 00:23:34,540 So at MIT, when we think about how do you 512 00:23:34,540 --> 00:23:37,070 bring a company from the idea to the market, 513 00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:40,670 or what is so often called the lab to the market, the way 514 00:23:40,670 --> 00:23:44,657 you think about that has to integrate the business model. 515 00:23:44,657 --> 00:23:47,115 So for those of you here that are scientists or researchers 516 00:23:47,115 --> 00:23:50,340 or engineers, as you're thinking about your new products, 517 00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:51,770 your service, or your technology, 518 00:23:51,770 --> 00:23:55,630 you have to continually test who is going to buy this. 519 00:23:55,630 --> 00:23:58,110 How am I going to get it to the consumer? 520 00:23:58,110 --> 00:24:01,520 How will this ultimately impact the people that I care about, 521 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,020 the people that are going to benefit 522 00:24:03,020 --> 00:24:05,485 from my product or my service? 523 00:24:05,485 --> 00:24:06,860 Just as Bob was sharing with us-- 524 00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:09,830 before-- some of the learnings he had as he was developing 525 00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:12,810 his new company, were those bumps in the road 526 00:24:12,810 --> 00:24:15,754 as they realized that various ideas they had about, hey, 527 00:24:15,754 --> 00:24:16,920 we'll give it away for free. 528 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,253 Or perhaps we'll go through this particular distribution 529 00:24:19,253 --> 00:24:19,910 channel. 530 00:24:19,910 --> 00:24:22,340 Those things did not work. 531 00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:23,680 You learn from those. 532 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,560 You incorporate. 533 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,870 You speak to more consumers. 534 00:24:25,870 --> 00:24:28,630 You speak to more investors that are expert in the space. 535 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:30,620 And you modify your approach. 536 00:24:30,620 --> 00:24:33,045 So as all of you think about building companies, products, 537 00:24:33,045 --> 00:24:34,670 and technology, think about how are you 538 00:24:34,670 --> 00:24:36,490 getting it to the consumer. 539 00:24:36,490 --> 00:24:38,490 I think the mistake that a lot of people have is 540 00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:40,660 they think that as they read The Wall Street 541 00:24:40,660 --> 00:24:42,740 Journal or Bloomberg or MSNBC is, 542 00:24:42,740 --> 00:24:45,060 they hear about the stories of these companies, 543 00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:47,530 and the stratospheric growth of these companies. 544 00:24:47,530 --> 00:24:50,950 But they think success is this linear process, when 545 00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:51,740 it's really not. 546 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:53,030 Success is really messy. 547 00:24:53,030 --> 00:24:54,270 It's noisy. 548 00:24:54,270 --> 00:24:57,070 There's lots of bumps, lots of failures and challenges, 549 00:24:57,070 --> 00:24:59,780 whether it be because of market acceptance, technology 550 00:24:59,780 --> 00:25:01,890 failures, or it happens just simply 551 00:25:01,890 --> 00:25:07,116 because the market was not ready for what you were doing. 552 00:25:07,116 --> 00:25:08,490 The goal is for you to figure out 553 00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:10,990 throughout those bumps and those curves 554 00:25:10,990 --> 00:25:13,340 how to identify opportunity, and also 555 00:25:13,340 --> 00:25:15,820 how to modify your products and services. 556 00:25:15,820 --> 00:25:18,477 So that brings us to business models in general. 557 00:25:18,477 --> 00:25:20,810 There's lots of different ways to think about a business 558 00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:21,900 model. 559 00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:24,150 Complexity was famous for years. 560 00:25:24,150 --> 00:25:25,940 I remember when I was in graduate school, 561 00:25:25,940 --> 00:25:27,780 they would talk about business models, sales 562 00:25:27,780 --> 00:25:29,440 and marketing and distribution. 563 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,370 And it was mind boggling. 564 00:25:32,370 --> 00:25:35,227 If they pass it out on an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet, 565 00:25:35,227 --> 00:25:37,560 you would need a magnifying glass to figure out what was 566 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,650 happening because the distribution channels were not 567 00:25:40,650 --> 00:25:41,450 as sophisticated. 568 00:25:41,450 --> 00:25:44,420 The technology was not as sophisticated. 569 00:25:44,420 --> 00:25:46,430 So you had complex models. 570 00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:48,830 And within these complex models, there 571 00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:51,300 were lots of points of failure, lots 572 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:54,212 of points where your reseller or your OEM channel-- 573 00:25:54,212 --> 00:25:55,795 your original equipment manufacturer-- 574 00:25:55,795 --> 00:25:58,472 or your distributor was failing, lots 575 00:25:58,472 --> 00:26:00,180 of points where the manufacturing was not 576 00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:03,530 succeeding or the retail environment was struggling. 577 00:26:03,530 --> 00:26:06,220 So what's happened is you've seen simplification of business 578 00:26:06,220 --> 00:26:10,150 models-- these ideas that become simplified in such a way 579 00:26:10,150 --> 00:26:13,580 where you say to yourself, I'm building this, 580 00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:16,260 and I want it to be in the hands of these people, 581 00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:19,500 whether that be a consumer, a doctor, a lawyer, if it happens 582 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:21,300 to be a large corporation. 583 00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:24,060 What's the easiest way to get there? 584 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:26,036 And leveraging technology, leveraging 585 00:26:26,036 --> 00:26:27,660 all of those things that are out there, 586 00:26:27,660 --> 00:26:30,010 including the good advice of experienced people, 587 00:26:30,010 --> 00:26:32,000 will help simplify this. 588 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,450 An example might be Zipcar, a company 589 00:26:34,450 --> 00:26:36,880 we're all very familiar with. 590 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,450 This is a relatively simple business model. 591 00:26:39,450 --> 00:26:41,460 It almost seems so simple that you'd 592 00:26:41,460 --> 00:26:45,620 be amazed if you presented this to an investor and said, 593 00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:46,530 this is our model. 594 00:26:46,530 --> 00:26:47,470 This is it. 595 00:26:47,470 --> 00:26:49,510 And we're going to build basically a company 596 00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:52,250 worth-- a publicly traded company-- I don't even 597 00:26:52,250 --> 00:26:55,700 know what the market cap is at right now. 598 00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:58,270 Fantastic, successful organization, 599 00:26:58,270 --> 00:27:01,610 operating globally in many cities around the world. 600 00:27:01,610 --> 00:27:04,170 They kept it very simple, very organized business model. 601 00:27:04,170 --> 00:27:07,710 How many people here use Dropbox? 602 00:27:07,710 --> 00:27:10,170 You get 2/3 of the group here that use Dropbox. 603 00:27:10,170 --> 00:27:15,050 When's the last time you saw a Dropbox advertisement on TV? 604 00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:16,500 It doesn't exist. 605 00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:18,800 20 years ago, if you were looking to build a company, 606 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,650 you'd have to have an advertising budget. 607 00:27:20,650 --> 00:27:21,580 You'd have to think about how we're 608 00:27:21,580 --> 00:27:23,290 going to wind up getting this into the hands 609 00:27:23,290 --> 00:27:23,910 of the right people. 610 00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:24,860 Who are the right people? 611 00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:26,318 Are we going to sell to businesses? 612 00:27:26,318 --> 00:27:28,200 Are we going to sell to individuals? 613 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,340 What's Dropbox's business model? 614 00:27:30,340 --> 00:27:34,460 How come you guys know so much about Dropbox? 615 00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:36,160 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 616 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,890 RICH KIVEL: How was that? 617 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:38,524 Word of mouth. 618 00:27:38,524 --> 00:27:39,440 Other people told you. 619 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,639 It's viral. 620 00:27:40,639 --> 00:27:42,680 So somebody tells you about this incredible thing 621 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,410 called Dropbox. 622 00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:45,030 You can sign up for free. 623 00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:48,380 You can get a certain amount of megabits of space for free. 624 00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:50,380 And all of a sudden, you start uploading photos. 625 00:27:50,380 --> 00:27:52,755 Or you're sharing PowerPoint presentations and documents. 626 00:27:52,755 --> 00:27:53,797 And your friend signs on. 627 00:27:53,797 --> 00:27:56,088 And then all of a sudden, you tell three other friends. 628 00:27:56,088 --> 00:27:56,970 And they sign on. 629 00:27:56,970 --> 00:27:59,920 And then all of a sudden, when that is shown as viable, 630 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,490 before you know it, they've got an entire model here 631 00:28:03,490 --> 00:28:07,210 that is making them a fortune, because they now 632 00:28:07,210 --> 00:28:09,960 have businesses and large-- what they call 633 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,410 Pro subscribers, large users-- paying large dollars 634 00:28:13,410 --> 00:28:15,570 in order to access that data. 635 00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:16,620 It's fantastic. 636 00:28:16,620 --> 00:28:19,630 Does that look like a complicated business model? 637 00:28:19,630 --> 00:28:21,710 No, not really. 638 00:28:21,710 --> 00:28:25,450 Here's another example of simplicity rules. 639 00:28:25,450 --> 00:28:28,340 We have the luxury of leveraging technology. 640 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:32,210 And we also have different types of mechanisms in order for us 641 00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:34,152 to educate consumers. 642 00:28:34,152 --> 00:28:35,860 Viral marketing is certainly one of those 643 00:28:35,860 --> 00:28:37,170 we'll talk about today. 644 00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:40,210 So simply put, your business model is not your business. 645 00:28:40,210 --> 00:28:41,640 Please remember that. 646 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,090 The business model and business model innovation 647 00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:47,580 is critical in developing a quality business, 648 00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:50,150 attacking new markets and driving profitability. 649 00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:52,950 Just as Bob had shared earlier, the ability 650 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:57,880 to modify change and dwarf your business model 651 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,539 is critical because just one small change 652 00:29:02,539 --> 00:29:03,830 can make all of the difference. 653 00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:04,990 And we're going to talk about some companies that 654 00:29:04,990 --> 00:29:06,420 made small changes. 655 00:29:06,420 --> 00:29:08,680 And it's made all of the difference in their success. 656 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,080 So I'll do the academic part of this presentation 657 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,250 to give you components of the business model. 658 00:29:14,250 --> 00:29:17,830 Then we're going to talk about some good examples. 659 00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:20,360 And then I'm going to leave plenty of time for Q&A, 660 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,350 and end on time, as I promised Joe. 661 00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:24,970 So from a business model perspective, 662 00:29:24,970 --> 00:29:26,095 there's lots of components. 663 00:29:26,095 --> 00:29:28,840 There's aspects of a business model that should exist. 664 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,200 Overall, they're pretty simple. 665 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,920 What is the value proposition? 666 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,250 What are the market segments that you're targeting? 667 00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:36,580 What is the value chain? 668 00:29:36,580 --> 00:29:38,660 And what is the structure of that value chain? 669 00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:40,620 Who's involved in it? 670 00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:42,980 What is your position within that value network? 671 00:29:42,980 --> 00:29:44,550 Are you at the early, early stage 672 00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:46,250 from a standpoint of manufacturing? 673 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:49,059 Are you at the end stage from a standpoint of actually 674 00:29:49,059 --> 00:29:51,100 delivering the product or service to the consumer 675 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:53,150 or are you somewhere in the middle? 676 00:29:53,150 --> 00:29:55,160 How do you generate revenue? 677 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,100 And how do you generate margins? 678 00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,461 And those are two very different things. 679 00:29:59,461 --> 00:30:00,960 There are companies out there we all 680 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,610 know that generate tremendous amounts of revenue. 681 00:30:03,610 --> 00:30:07,590 And their margins are very tiny-- 1%, half a percent 682 00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:08,940 or less. 683 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,414 But they make it up because the revenue is so extreme. 684 00:30:11,414 --> 00:30:12,830 You have other companies out there 685 00:30:12,830 --> 00:30:15,840 that have exceptionally high margins, tremendously 686 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,470 high margins, not very large revenues. 687 00:30:19,470 --> 00:30:22,680 Think about luxury goods resellers. 688 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,360 Take a look at the average consumer 689 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,180 that goes out and buys a luxury bag or a nice suit 690 00:30:29,180 --> 00:30:31,840 or an expensive watch. 691 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,820 Well I can go buy a watch from Movado. 692 00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:36,704 Or I can go buy a watch from Swatch. 693 00:30:36,704 --> 00:30:37,870 These are beautiful watches. 694 00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:40,530 They're made by large manufacturing groups. 695 00:30:40,530 --> 00:30:43,120 They're going through a very, very sophisticated distribution 696 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,680 channel. 697 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,520 And they're made in the tens of thousands. 698 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,270 Those watches are sold anywhere between $39.00, 699 00:30:49,270 --> 00:30:52,480 $49.00 up to probably $1,000.00. 700 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,650 And they're sold in the thousands 701 00:30:54,650 --> 00:30:57,360 through retailers that you see in the mall, 702 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,080 through retailers that are online, 703 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,850 and also through big-box sellers like Walmart 704 00:31:01,850 --> 00:31:04,682 or Costco or others. 705 00:31:04,682 --> 00:31:06,140 You think, wow, that's interesting. 706 00:31:06,140 --> 00:31:09,190 Someone like Swatch and also Movado, which is much higher 707 00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:12,590 end, they both sell through similar distribution channels. 708 00:31:12,590 --> 00:31:14,380 They do tremendous volume. 709 00:31:14,380 --> 00:31:17,040 So they have very, very high revenues. 710 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,760 But their margins are incredibly small. 711 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,070 The goal is saturate the market. 712 00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:24,780 Get as many people to buy as possible. 713 00:31:24,780 --> 00:31:26,520 Take a look at other types of products 714 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,990 that are similar that are called watches. 715 00:31:28,990 --> 00:31:31,430 Very often they're then called timepieces, 716 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:35,750 where you have watches that are handmade, where they're 717 00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:38,130 made in a very, very subtle way, where it's 718 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:42,890 a lot of on-hand or craftsman work and craftsman design, 719 00:31:42,890 --> 00:31:45,320 very low on the manufacturing side. 720 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,660 It might take months to make a particular watch, 721 00:31:47,660 --> 00:31:48,861 if not longer. 722 00:31:48,861 --> 00:31:51,110 And the watches sell for tens of thousands or hundreds 723 00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:52,600 of thousands of dollars. 724 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,400 You think about IWC, Patek Philippe. 725 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,200 Many of these watches will sell for $100,000.00 or $50,000.00 726 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,850 for a watch. 727 00:32:00,850 --> 00:32:03,630 Totally different business model. 728 00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:06,020 Their margins are very large. 729 00:32:06,020 --> 00:32:08,680 But their overall revenues are relatively small because they 730 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,080 don't sell a lot of pieces. 731 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,140 Think about Mercedes-Benz. 732 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:16,510 And think about Ford. 733 00:32:16,510 --> 00:32:19,900 If you base success on the total number of vehicles sold, 734 00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:23,800 Ford kills them year in and year out. 735 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,310 If you base it on margins, slightly different story. 736 00:32:27,310 --> 00:32:29,670 Ford has some products that are incredibly high margins, 737 00:32:29,670 --> 00:32:31,120 like their SUVs. 738 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,167 They have other products, like their low-end cars 739 00:32:33,167 --> 00:32:34,250 that are very low margins. 740 00:32:34,250 --> 00:32:35,750 But they're looking to get adoption 741 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:37,990 within a particular marketplace. 742 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:40,200 Mercedes, much different story. 743 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,160 Very high margins on virtually every vehicle they sell. 744 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,102 Much lower volume. 745 00:32:47,102 --> 00:32:49,560 So all of these things have to be taken into consideration. 746 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,590 You cannot choose your business model because it seemed like it 747 00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:56,300 made sense, because you saw a competitor doing it. 748 00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:58,070 You have to figure out where are you 749 00:32:58,070 --> 00:33:00,770 within that particular value network. 750 00:33:00,770 --> 00:33:02,540 The competitive strategy plays into that, 751 00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:04,710 and what stage of development is the company. 752 00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:06,960 So I'm going to flip through a couple of these slides. 753 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,180 And we'll dive into some examples. 754 00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:09,555 And I'm hoping you guys have lots 755 00:33:09,555 --> 00:33:10,830 of questions at that point. 756 00:33:10,830 --> 00:33:15,080 So the value proposition, which is really number one here, 757 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,870 is really a description of the customer problem, 758 00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:19,830 the solution that addresses that problem, 759 00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:22,520 and the value of the solution from the customer's 760 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,220 perspective. 761 00:33:24,220 --> 00:33:27,185 The customer's perspective is very important here. 762 00:33:27,185 --> 00:33:30,040 If I am buying, let's say an Apple product, 763 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,200 which I see a lot of here, well there's a lot of things 764 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,260 there that I as a consumer might be attracted to. 765 00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:39,010 I love the design of it, the size of it, the feel of it, 766 00:33:39,010 --> 00:33:40,850 the way it operates. 767 00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:44,390 If, for example, you're buying a desktop computer, 768 00:33:44,390 --> 00:33:46,310 and you chose to pick out a Dell, 769 00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:48,870 or you chose to pick out another type of manufacturer, 770 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:50,710 not like Apple-- maybe you're buying it 771 00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:53,830 for entirely different reasons than that Apple user. 772 00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:56,620 So think about what is it that the customer perceives 773 00:33:56,620 --> 00:33:57,800 as value. 774 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,500 Is the customer looking for low cost or are they looking for 775 00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,259 speed? 776 00:34:03,259 --> 00:34:04,550 Are they looking for something? 777 00:34:04,550 --> 00:34:07,880 You need to make sure that your value proposition offers that. 778 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,050 From a market segmentation perspective, 779 00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:11,280 it's choosing your audience. 780 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,440 And we could talk about this entirely throughout this class. 781 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,840 But I'm going to keep it short. 782 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,630 You have to know who that ultimate end user is. 783 00:34:19,630 --> 00:34:21,909 Who is that person that's going to write that check, 784 00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:23,889 recognizing that different market segments have 785 00:34:23,889 --> 00:34:25,164 different needs. 786 00:34:25,164 --> 00:34:26,830 If you're selling, we'll use the example 787 00:34:26,830 --> 00:34:29,889 I did a moment ago-- if you're selling to that high-end watch 788 00:34:29,889 --> 00:34:33,780 buyer, who's buying essentially a timepiece that's 789 00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:36,684 going to be passed down for generations, that's 790 00:34:36,684 --> 00:34:39,100 a different type of buyer, a different type of a marketing 791 00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:43,460 approach than if you're selling a Swatch watch, which 792 00:34:43,460 --> 00:34:45,590 borders on a disposable watch. 793 00:34:45,590 --> 00:34:47,520 If it lasts five years, it's fantastic. 794 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,478 By then, you probably have bought three or four 795 00:34:49,478 --> 00:34:50,310 more watches. 796 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:53,670 Same thing for computers and cars and many other things. 797 00:34:53,670 --> 00:34:55,239 Additionally value change structure 798 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,800 and position in the value network are critical to this. 799 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,920 And they're part of that initial slide I shared. 800 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,172 So what is the firm's position in the value chain? 801 00:35:02,172 --> 00:35:04,130 What are the activities within the value chain? 802 00:35:04,130 --> 00:35:07,390 And how the firm will capture part of the value 803 00:35:07,390 --> 00:35:09,864 that it creates within that chain, 804 00:35:09,864 --> 00:35:12,280 because where you fit within that chain and how much of it 805 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,920 you own is really, really important to know. 806 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,070 If you're Netflix think about where 807 00:35:18,070 --> 00:35:20,500 are you in the value chain. 808 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,304 AUDIENCE: Describe the value chain. 809 00:35:22,304 --> 00:35:23,220 RICH KIVEL: Excellent. 810 00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:26,090 So you asked if I could describe the value chain. 811 00:35:26,090 --> 00:35:28,702 So think about the entire cycle. 812 00:35:28,702 --> 00:35:30,160 And I'll use Netflix as an example, 813 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,220 because I mentioned it. 814 00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:34,260 So what does Netflix do, essentially? 815 00:35:34,260 --> 00:35:35,760 AUDIENCE: They're distribution. 816 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,134 RICH KIVEL: They're distribution. 817 00:35:37,134 --> 00:35:38,749 To who? 818 00:35:38,749 --> 00:35:39,540 AUDIENCE: End user. 819 00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:40,581 RICH KIVEL: The end user. 820 00:35:40,581 --> 00:35:42,392 They are at the far end, whichever end 821 00:35:42,392 --> 00:35:43,600 you want to call the far end. 822 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,410 They're at the far end of the cycle. 823 00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:47,530 There's not much after that. 824 00:35:47,530 --> 00:35:52,970 They're distributing a movie, something entertaining, to us. 825 00:35:52,970 --> 00:35:54,470 If you think about that entire value 826 00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:58,980 chain or that entire cycle, it goes all the way back, 827 00:35:58,980 --> 00:36:02,740 way, way, way back to somebody, maybe a year ago 828 00:36:02,740 --> 00:36:06,270 or 20 years ago that had an idea for a picture, an idea 829 00:36:06,270 --> 00:36:09,740 for a movie or a film, who then as they 830 00:36:09,740 --> 00:36:11,890 moved through that value chain, maybe 831 00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:13,390 they found a screenwriter. 832 00:36:13,390 --> 00:36:15,600 They ultimately, perhaps, found a studio. 833 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,420 That studio ultimately made a decision 834 00:36:17,420 --> 00:36:19,590 whether they were going to fund it or not, 835 00:36:19,590 --> 00:36:21,930 just like a venture capitalist. 836 00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:26,620 Movies are just like starting companies-- idea, all the way 837 00:36:26,620 --> 00:36:29,510 through to the business plan to the funding. 838 00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:32,020 That venture capitalist, or in the case of a movie, 839 00:36:32,020 --> 00:36:34,340 it's the studio that says, we love it. 840 00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:35,050 We want it. 841 00:36:35,050 --> 00:36:37,260 The story's outstanding. 842 00:36:37,260 --> 00:36:38,324 We want to buy the story. 843 00:36:38,324 --> 00:36:39,990 We're going to put this much against it. 844 00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:43,540 They then build the team. 845 00:36:43,540 --> 00:36:45,260 So they find who's going to be the lead. 846 00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:46,250 Who's going to be the second? 847 00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:47,090 Who's going to be the third? 848 00:36:47,090 --> 00:36:48,280 Who's going to the action character? 849 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,880 Who's going to be the romantic? 850 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,250 Where is it going to be filmed? 851 00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:54,150 All of these aspects are just like a business. 852 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:56,760 They've got to find the CEO, the CFO, the CTO. 853 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,554 They have to figure out where are we 854 00:36:57,554 --> 00:36:58,720 going to locate the company. 855 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,190 Where's the best place for it to be? 856 00:37:01,190 --> 00:37:03,540 And then at that point, they start working on it, 857 00:37:03,540 --> 00:37:05,330 and toiling away, and filming it. 858 00:37:05,330 --> 00:37:08,680 And filming could take weeks, months, or even years. 859 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,630 Then ultimately, it's distributed. 860 00:37:11,630 --> 00:37:14,060 Now it might be distributed directly into theaters. 861 00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:17,140 Or if it doesn't get great reviews 862 00:37:17,140 --> 00:37:19,460 in the early, early days of distribution, 863 00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:21,970 it might actually go directly to DVD. 864 00:37:21,970 --> 00:37:25,004 And that's when Netflix jumps in. 865 00:37:25,004 --> 00:37:26,920 So if you think about it, that's a long cycle. 866 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,460 And I probably skipped 30 parts. 867 00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:31,660 So where do you fit within the distribution channel 868 00:37:31,660 --> 00:37:34,232 is absolutely critical for you to understand 869 00:37:34,232 --> 00:37:36,690 how you think about that, and where you actually capitalize 870 00:37:36,690 --> 00:37:38,360 and make money. 871 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,860 Netflix also had the big challenge 872 00:37:39,860 --> 00:37:42,840 where they were facing a major competitor at that time when 873 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,740 they first came to market. 874 00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:47,540 Does anybody even remember who that competitor was? 875 00:37:47,540 --> 00:37:49,140 AUDIENCE: Blockbuster. 876 00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:52,870 RICH KIVEL: Blockbuster got their butt kicked by Netflix. 877 00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:54,740 What happened? 878 00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:57,460 What happened was two major things. 879 00:37:57,460 --> 00:38:00,420 Number one, technology changed. 880 00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:03,300 DVDs came out. 881 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:05,850 VCRs were going away. 882 00:38:05,850 --> 00:38:09,070 So videotapes made perfect sense when you went into Blockbuster. 883 00:38:09,070 --> 00:38:12,840 It was big, bulky, didn't even think about shipping it, 884 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,840 easy to break. 885 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,450 It gets crushed, doesn't work so well, tape gets pulled out, 886 00:38:16,450 --> 00:38:17,280 whatever. 887 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,170 Blockbuster had a great model. 888 00:38:20,170 --> 00:38:23,000 They were at the end of the cycle to us, the consumer. 889 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,940 They put little stores everywhere. 890 00:38:24,940 --> 00:38:26,450 And they made it easy. 891 00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:28,100 But all of a sudden, the DVD world 892 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:29,600 came out, where you were able to get 893 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,130 super high-definition quality picture motion 894 00:38:32,130 --> 00:38:36,180 pictures on a DVD that is as flat as an envelope. 895 00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:38,990 Netflix said, hey, why are we building 896 00:38:38,990 --> 00:38:40,280 stores for these things? 897 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,040 People already know the movie they want. 898 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,760 Or they could use this new technology called the internet, 899 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,340 and figure out what movie they want, which is mailed to them. 900 00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:50,780 The other big challenge that Blockbuster had 901 00:38:50,780 --> 00:38:54,390 was the whole process of limited supply, 902 00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:57,690 and demand on that supply. 903 00:38:57,690 --> 00:39:01,220 So they penalized you if you don't return the video on time 904 00:39:01,220 --> 00:39:03,270 because they were losing revenue. 905 00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:06,320 If you didn't get it put in that little tiny box 906 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,261 by 7:00 AM or 10:00 AM the next morning, you got charged a fee. 907 00:39:10,261 --> 00:39:10,760 Why? 908 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,290 Because somebody else wanted their one 909 00:39:13,290 --> 00:39:16,660 of three copies of that movie. 910 00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:18,830 They couldn't have an unlimited supply. 911 00:39:18,830 --> 00:39:21,150 Whereas the ability to reproduce and print 912 00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:23,570 DVDs-- virtually unlimited. 913 00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:25,100 Everybody in this room could order 914 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:28,830 a DVD today of a hot movie that just came out. 915 00:39:28,830 --> 00:39:30,780 It could be at your house tomorrow. 916 00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:32,660 There's no distribution issue. 917 00:39:32,660 --> 00:39:36,170 The ability to reproduce that DVD, drop it in an envelope, 918 00:39:36,170 --> 00:39:38,650 and mail it to you is effortless, completely 919 00:39:38,650 --> 00:39:40,780 automated. 920 00:39:40,780 --> 00:39:43,040 So what you have here is this convergence, 921 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,500 where there was an opportunity. 922 00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:47,940 There was technological change, whether it 923 00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:50,500 be DVDs or internet or a combination of both, 924 00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:54,020 that allowed Netflix to completely crush Blockbuster. 925 00:39:54,020 --> 00:39:57,650 And then Netflix changed themselves, didn't they? 926 00:39:57,650 --> 00:40:00,170 They recognized that our ability to capture 927 00:40:00,170 --> 00:40:03,900 more bandwidth, the ability for us to actually download a movie 928 00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:06,510 was increasing in many parts of the United States, 929 00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:09,000 not everywhere, not everywhere. 930 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,770 But as our ability, especially in large cities, 931 00:40:11,770 --> 00:40:13,992 increased to download movies-- now all of a sudden, 932 00:40:13,992 --> 00:40:16,450 it changed to we don't even have to ship it to you anymore. 933 00:40:16,450 --> 00:40:18,110 All you have to do is download it. 934 00:40:18,110 --> 00:40:20,710 It streams to you. 935 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:22,210 And then they created a whole series 936 00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:23,501 of other distribution channels. 937 00:40:23,501 --> 00:40:25,570 Now you can get Netflix on your Roku. 938 00:40:25,570 --> 00:40:28,050 You can get Netflix in all of these other areas. 939 00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,870 So if you think about it, when the guy that started Netflix 940 00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:34,210 started off, it was a very simple model. 941 00:40:34,210 --> 00:40:35,230 People like movies. 942 00:40:35,230 --> 00:40:39,120 They're willing to pay for them so they can watch them at home. 943 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,280 DVDs are the new thing. 944 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,930 And we've developed a complex shipping method and mechanism 945 00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:47,519 and a model of warehousing DVDs that we 946 00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:48,810 can get it to people overnight. 947 00:40:48,810 --> 00:40:50,040 And they can keep it for a day, a week. 948 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,498 We don't really care, because we're 949 00:40:51,498 --> 00:40:52,770 going to keep shipping more. 950 00:40:52,770 --> 00:40:53,830 It was so simple. 951 00:40:53,830 --> 00:40:55,832 The business model could not have been easier. 952 00:40:55,832 --> 00:40:57,290 But what they did is they continued 953 00:40:57,290 --> 00:40:59,620 to change and morph their business model 954 00:40:59,620 --> 00:41:01,420 as the technology changed. 955 00:41:01,420 --> 00:41:03,740 And they continue to stay far ahead of the curve. 956 00:41:03,740 --> 00:41:08,426 What is the latest thing that Netflix is now doing? 957 00:41:08,426 --> 00:41:09,550 AUDIENCE: Producing movies. 958 00:41:09,550 --> 00:41:11,091 RICH KIVEL: They're producing movies. 959 00:41:11,091 --> 00:41:12,290 How crazy is that? 960 00:41:12,290 --> 00:41:14,860 But can you imagine if you were the CEO of Netflix 961 00:41:14,860 --> 00:41:17,450 and you said to the VCs when you went in 962 00:41:17,450 --> 00:41:19,930 to talk to them a decade ago, well here's the thing. 963 00:41:19,930 --> 00:41:20,890 I got a business idea. 964 00:41:20,890 --> 00:41:23,223 What we're going to do is, we're going to basically kick 965 00:41:23,223 --> 00:41:24,920 Blockbuster's ass. 966 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,950 We're going to distribute these things on DVDs. 967 00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:28,240 And then we're going to start to do downloadable. 968 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:29,615 And then, by the way, we're going 969 00:41:29,615 --> 00:41:31,750 to become a movie production studio. 970 00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:33,542 Their head would explode. 971 00:41:33,542 --> 00:41:35,000 And they would just say, listen you 972 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,490 have no idea what you're doing. 973 00:41:36,490 --> 00:41:39,430 And you don't understand how complex the market is. 974 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:42,030 That's why earlier I said, simplicity. 975 00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:44,290 When you launch your business, keep it simple. 976 00:41:44,290 --> 00:41:46,510 Show that that model is easy to understand. 977 00:41:46,510 --> 00:41:48,460 And then from there you continue to expand. 978 00:41:48,460 --> 00:41:50,910 Who would have thought Netflix is now producing some 979 00:41:50,910 --> 00:41:53,750 of the best shows out there? 980 00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:56,880 Orange Is the New Black is one of the top shows out there, 981 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,347 produced by Netflix. 982 00:41:59,347 --> 00:42:00,680 What are some of the other ones? 983 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:01,640 AUDIENCE: House of Cards. 984 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,764 RICH KIVEL: House of Cards. 985 00:42:02,764 --> 00:42:05,579 So you think about-- that's mind boggling. 986 00:42:05,579 --> 00:42:07,870 What is the difference between Netflix and Blockbuster? 987 00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:13,130 Leadership, the ability to change, the ability 988 00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:16,550 to see around the next curve, and actually 989 00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:21,367 change the business model of the company in order to adapt. 990 00:42:21,367 --> 00:42:23,950 So I'll finish up this area of revenue generation and margins. 991 00:42:23,950 --> 00:42:25,533 We talked a little about that earlier. 992 00:42:25,533 --> 00:42:27,800 Competitive strategy-- how will the company 993 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,050 attempt to develop and sustain a competitor advantage? 994 00:42:30,050 --> 00:42:31,716 And I've shared a little bit about that. 995 00:42:31,716 --> 00:42:32,920 Netflix is a great example. 996 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,420 And then one other component of this 997 00:42:34,420 --> 00:42:36,629 is where are you on the field? 998 00:42:36,629 --> 00:42:38,170 Understanding where your business is. 999 00:42:38,170 --> 00:42:40,534 And the Netflix example is one that is pretty clear. 1000 00:42:40,534 --> 00:42:42,200 When you're over in this area here where 1001 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,574 you're pilot testing, and you're in the gestational area, 1002 00:42:44,574 --> 00:42:47,240 or you're doing the roll out, or you're in slow growth, 1003 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:51,240 that may not be the time to take on two or three new business 1004 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:55,930 models or enter a different part of the distribution channel. 1005 00:42:55,930 --> 00:42:59,560 But as you start to get the terminal velocity, 1006 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,700 that's the time when you start to really look back 1007 00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:03,980 and say, hey, now let's take a look at our market 1008 00:43:03,980 --> 00:43:05,040 in a different way. 1009 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,760 We've got the velocity, whether it be the funding, the adoption 1010 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,940 within the marketplace. 1011 00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:11,280 And then at that point, based on the maturity, 1012 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,070 you can start to think of expanding. 1013 00:43:13,070 --> 00:43:14,672 So where are you on the field? 1014 00:43:14,672 --> 00:43:16,130 It's always important to know that. 1015 00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:18,320 A lot of companies-- Blockbuster is clearly 1016 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,150 one of them-- that took their eye off the ball, 1017 00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:23,480 and they just focused on what they were doing. 1018 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,260 And what they did is just stuff that we look at now. 1019 00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:28,980 We go, gosh, that was so naive. 1020 00:43:28,980 --> 00:43:31,260 You thought maybe eliminating the late fees is 1021 00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:32,470 going to solve your problem. 1022 00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:35,940 You thought reducing price-- you thought more stores is going 1023 00:43:35,940 --> 00:43:37,770 to-- you look at that now. 1024 00:43:37,770 --> 00:43:40,495 You say, wow, that's the best that management team could 1025 00:43:40,495 --> 00:43:42,340 come up with. 1026 00:43:42,340 --> 00:43:44,700 They were not stepping back and saying, where 1027 00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:46,420 are we on the field, guys? 1028 00:43:46,420 --> 00:43:49,620 What's happening in the entire space that we're playing in? 1029 00:43:49,620 --> 00:43:51,320 And where do we play? 1030 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,190 A great example is Google. 1031 00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:56,360 This is a snapshot of the Google website launched September 4, 1032 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,720 1998. 1033 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,810 Isn't that awesome? 1034 00:44:00,810 --> 00:44:03,975 Has it changed very much? 1035 00:44:03,975 --> 00:44:04,600 Think about it. 1036 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,500 How cool is that? 1037 00:44:08,110 --> 00:44:09,660 That is elegant. 1038 00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:10,269 How simple. 1039 00:44:10,269 --> 00:44:10,810 Look at that. 1040 00:44:10,810 --> 00:44:11,740 What is it up there? 1041 00:44:11,740 --> 00:44:18,660 Index contains 25 million pages, soon to be much bigger. 1042 00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:22,290 How many trillions of pages does Google have currently indexed? 1043 00:44:22,290 --> 00:44:23,890 Think about that. 1044 00:44:23,890 --> 00:44:27,760 But what's also important think about is this-- Google could 1045 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,890 have state just like this. 1046 00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:34,041 They could have stayed a simple what? 1047 00:44:34,041 --> 00:44:35,040 AUDIENCE: Search engine. 1048 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,956 RICH KIVEL: That's it. 1049 00:44:35,956 --> 00:44:36,702 Search engine. 1050 00:44:36,702 --> 00:44:38,410 It could have been a great search engine. 1051 00:44:38,410 --> 00:44:41,140 They could have been a better search engine than anyone. 1052 00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:42,850 That was what they were promoting. 1053 00:44:42,850 --> 00:44:45,780 We will find you what you're looking for faster, better. 1054 00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:46,650 We prioritize. 1055 00:44:46,650 --> 00:44:48,020 We have complex algorithms. 1056 00:44:48,020 --> 00:44:49,603 We have a whole bunch of smart people, 1057 00:44:49,603 --> 00:44:51,580 probably from MIT, that are helping 1058 00:44:51,580 --> 00:44:56,100 you find that weird shit you're looking for. 1059 00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:57,150 Seriously. 1060 00:44:57,150 --> 00:45:01,370 You're looking for-- you need a pink doily that 1061 00:45:01,370 --> 00:45:03,440 will be eight inches that is under a lamp 1062 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,530 for your grandmother's house. 1063 00:45:05,530 --> 00:45:08,410 Or you're looking for a new hand-held device 1064 00:45:08,410 --> 00:45:09,560 for something else. 1065 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,010 They're going to find it for you. 1066 00:45:11,010 --> 00:45:12,960 I'm looking to book a trip to Paris. 1067 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,230 They're going to help prioritize it, best hotels Paris luxury. 1068 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:17,960 Put those in, boom. 1069 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,420 Boolean search, we all remember. 1070 00:45:19,420 --> 00:45:24,130 Put in all the complex-- the word plus this are in quotes. 1071 00:45:24,130 --> 00:45:26,110 They have better algorithms than Yahoo. 1072 00:45:26,110 --> 00:45:29,140 They have better algorithms than AltaVista, better algorithms 1073 00:45:29,140 --> 00:45:30,420 than NaviSite. 1074 00:45:30,420 --> 00:45:31,960 The list goes on. 1075 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,820 They could have stopped there, and just continued 1076 00:45:34,820 --> 00:45:37,560 to be the best search engine in the world. 1077 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,310 And you know what? 1078 00:45:38,310 --> 00:45:42,937 They're still killing everybody in search, killing them. 1079 00:45:42,937 --> 00:45:45,020 People that like Bing or others probably disagree. 1080 00:45:45,020 --> 00:45:47,810 But I think they kill it. 1081 00:45:47,810 --> 00:45:50,580 But what did they do as a business? 1082 00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:52,600 Or I should say, what didn't they 1083 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,060 do since 1998 as a business? 1084 00:45:57,060 --> 00:45:59,450 Look at what Google is today. 1085 00:45:59,450 --> 00:46:02,460 Give me a few ideas, one word from a bunch of you. 1086 00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:05,140 Just what is Google today besides search? 1087 00:46:07,932 --> 00:46:08,699 AUDIENCE: Brand. 1088 00:46:08,699 --> 00:46:09,740 RICH KIVEL: It's a brand. 1089 00:46:09,740 --> 00:46:11,648 What? 1090 00:46:11,648 --> 00:46:12,820 AUDIENCE: Maps. 1091 00:46:12,820 --> 00:46:13,820 RICH KIVEL: Google Maps. 1092 00:46:13,820 --> 00:46:15,590 Most of us live on Google Maps. 1093 00:46:15,590 --> 00:46:16,263 What else? 1094 00:46:16,263 --> 00:46:17,250 AUDIENCE: Mobile. 1095 00:46:17,250 --> 00:46:18,190 RICH KIVEL: Mobile. 1096 00:46:18,190 --> 00:46:21,540 Think about Google is the mobile app in so many ways. 1097 00:46:21,540 --> 00:46:22,110 What else? 1098 00:46:22,110 --> 00:46:22,860 AUDIENCE: Browser. 1099 00:46:22,860 --> 00:46:23,852 Email. 1100 00:46:23,852 --> 00:46:24,935 RICH KIVEL: I missed that. 1101 00:46:24,935 --> 00:46:25,601 AUDIENCE: Email. 1102 00:46:25,601 --> 00:46:26,300 Browser. 1103 00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:27,050 RICH KIVEL: Email. 1104 00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:29,120 Browser. 1105 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,522 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1106 00:46:31,522 --> 00:46:32,188 RICH KIVEL: Yep. 1107 00:46:34,740 --> 00:46:36,240 What I haven't heard, maybe somebody 1108 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:40,770 did say is Google is data. 1109 00:46:40,770 --> 00:46:44,780 What Google is, is Google is data. 1110 00:46:44,780 --> 00:46:48,030 They have figured out ways to capture, store, 1111 00:46:48,030 --> 00:46:51,850 analyze everything we do. 1112 00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:57,460 Google knows more about us than our families do. 1113 00:46:57,460 --> 00:47:00,660 And because of that, they're able to impact the world. 1114 00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:03,830 Do you realize that Google Health, as an example, 1115 00:47:03,830 --> 00:47:09,010 actually provides data, completely anonymous data, 1116 00:47:09,010 --> 00:47:11,480 to groups like the CDC? 1117 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,910 If there is an increase in the number of people 1118 00:47:14,910 --> 00:47:18,900 in the Northeast, specifically Maine, New Hampshire, 1119 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:23,640 Vermont that are in the increase in searches 1120 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,830 around a particular series of symptoms 1121 00:47:27,830 --> 00:47:31,270 at a particular time of year, that data is actually given 1122 00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:36,930 to groups like the CDC to help think about positioning cures, 1123 00:47:36,930 --> 00:47:39,190 positioning vaccines, and positioning hospitals 1124 00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:40,020 and support. 1125 00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:42,490 Think about how powerful that is. 1126 00:47:42,490 --> 00:47:45,050 If there is all of a sudden, thousands of searches, 1127 00:47:45,050 --> 00:47:47,810 because a bunch of moms in New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine 1128 00:47:47,810 --> 00:47:54,250 start Googling high temperature, all of these symptoms 1129 00:47:54,250 --> 00:47:58,720 that might be relevant, or regular cough or these types 1130 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:03,020 of rashes, and that's regularly Googled, all of a sudden Google 1131 00:48:03,020 --> 00:48:05,600 has a data set where they can see trends before anyone 1132 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,570 else can see them. 1133 00:48:07,570 --> 00:48:09,570 They know everything that's happening 1134 00:48:09,570 --> 00:48:12,370 on a very, very global scale, both micro and macro. 1135 00:48:12,370 --> 00:48:14,582 And it really helps make the world better. 1136 00:48:14,582 --> 00:48:16,040 Now people will get scared and say, 1137 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,331 you know it's about privacy and all these other things. 1138 00:48:18,331 --> 00:48:20,110 And I absolutely believe that. 1139 00:48:20,110 --> 00:48:21,820 But there is good that can be created. 1140 00:48:21,820 --> 00:48:24,820 This is a data company that is changing the world. 1141 00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:28,780 They know more about you because of what you search, 1142 00:48:28,780 --> 00:48:32,420 how long you hover over a particular part of a website, 1143 00:48:32,420 --> 00:48:36,166 what you do on a regular basis, the time of day that you do it, 1144 00:48:36,166 --> 00:48:37,540 the type of things that you like, 1145 00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:40,280 whether it be the type of music, the type of concerts, 1146 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,880 the type of places you vacation, the type of hotels 1147 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,630 that you shop. 1148 00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:46,990 All of those things are very powerful. 1149 00:48:46,990 --> 00:48:49,479 So Google is a data company, different than what 1150 00:48:49,479 --> 00:48:51,770 their original business model was, or at least appeared 1151 00:48:51,770 --> 00:48:52,270 to be. 1152 00:48:52,270 --> 00:48:54,556 And part of it is because of this. 1153 00:48:54,556 --> 00:48:55,110 This is-- 1154 00:48:55,110 --> 00:48:57,110 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] accidental business model? 1155 00:48:57,110 --> 00:49:00,456 Bt they weren't going to make any money. [INAUDIBLE] 1156 00:49:00,456 --> 00:49:03,312 stumbling on [? ad words. ?] 1157 00:49:03,312 --> 00:49:04,520 RICH KIVEL: I think so, yeah. 1158 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,519 AUDIENCE: --earned them the money to do all this 1159 00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:07,286 stuff. [INAUDIBLE] 1160 00:49:07,286 --> 00:49:08,660 RICH KIVEL: I think you're right. 1161 00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:10,300 I think it may have been accidental. 1162 00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:12,425 It might have been the genius of Eric Schmidt, when 1163 00:49:12,425 --> 00:49:14,834 he was put in there by the venture capitalists. 1164 00:49:14,834 --> 00:49:17,000 It might have been a lot of very smart board people. 1165 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,340 It might have been a lot of factors. 1166 00:49:19,340 --> 00:49:21,250 But they harnessed that opportunity 1167 00:49:21,250 --> 00:49:22,350 that everyone else had. 1168 00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:26,200 Any of the other search groups could have done this. 1169 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,660 No matter how good the Google algorithms are, 1170 00:49:28,660 --> 00:49:30,650 they're not that much different, I'm 1171 00:49:30,650 --> 00:49:32,784 sure, than some of the best search out there. 1172 00:49:32,784 --> 00:49:34,200 Are they much different than Bing? 1173 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,200 Are they much different than the other ones? 1174 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,230 I don't know. 1175 00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:38,640 Are those companies going to ever become as important 1176 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,360 on a global basis as Google? 1177 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,610 Think about Google Maps is great. 1178 00:49:43,610 --> 00:49:45,630 What about Google Earth? 1179 00:49:45,630 --> 00:49:48,560 How many people here have not used Google Earth? 1180 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,350 Will both of you stand up? 1181 00:49:50,350 --> 00:49:52,320 Everybody's used Google Earth. 1182 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,560 It's the coolest thing. 1183 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,520 If I'm booking a hotel, and I'm booking a hotel 1184 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,697 in the north of Spain-- we go every year on vacation-- if I'm 1185 00:49:59,697 --> 00:50:02,030 booking a hotel and I've never stayed at a hotel before, 1186 00:50:02,030 --> 00:50:04,430 I will look at it on Google Earth 1187 00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:06,140 because I don't believe the website that 1188 00:50:06,140 --> 00:50:08,650 says across the street from the beach. 1189 00:50:08,650 --> 00:50:11,144 It might mean across the street from the beach. 1190 00:50:11,144 --> 00:50:13,060 And by the way, the street is also referred to 1191 00:50:13,060 --> 00:50:15,070 as an eight-lane highway. 1192 00:50:15,070 --> 00:50:17,200 I'm not going to be super happy with that 1193 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,410 when I show up for vacation. 1194 00:50:18,410 --> 00:50:19,876 So I'll Google Earth it. 1195 00:50:19,876 --> 00:50:20,750 I'll see where it is. 1196 00:50:20,750 --> 00:50:23,010 And I'll be able to see what's happening. 1197 00:50:23,010 --> 00:50:25,180 It's incredibly powerful, these little things. 1198 00:50:25,180 --> 00:50:26,740 And they know I'm searching that. 1199 00:50:26,740 --> 00:50:28,340 So it goes back to the data piece. 1200 00:50:28,340 --> 00:50:31,540 And a lot of it is driven around this-- the fact 1201 00:50:31,540 --> 00:50:35,030 that the change in price of storage has dropped 1202 00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:39,690 so dramatically has transformed every bit of technology, 1203 00:50:39,690 --> 00:50:43,320 whether it be the ability for Netflix to download movies 1204 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,600 or store them, the ability for you to get on an airplane 1205 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,610 right now, and while you're on that airplane, 1206 00:50:49,610 --> 00:50:54,090 instead of watching one terribly chosen movie coming out 1207 00:50:54,090 --> 00:50:58,930 of a ceiling projector, you have a seat in front of you 1208 00:50:58,930 --> 00:51:00,197 that has a screen in it. 1209 00:51:00,197 --> 00:51:01,530 And you can pick from 30 movies. 1210 00:51:01,530 --> 00:51:03,410 That's just storage. 1211 00:51:03,410 --> 00:51:05,450 That plane has enough storage that we 1212 00:51:05,450 --> 00:51:07,867 can pick from 30 different movies at each seat. 1213 00:51:07,867 --> 00:51:09,450 If you're on JetBlue, you can actually 1214 00:51:09,450 --> 00:51:11,790 watch streaming TV as well. 1215 00:51:11,790 --> 00:51:13,700 So because of this, everything's changed. 1216 00:51:13,700 --> 00:51:15,710 The rules of the game have changed. 1217 00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:19,850 So the question always is, what business model, and why? 1218 00:51:19,850 --> 00:51:23,190 And if you think about each of these different businesses 1219 00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:25,182 on the surface, if you didn't know any better, 1220 00:51:25,182 --> 00:51:27,140 you would think they were in the same business. 1221 00:51:27,140 --> 00:51:28,060 Apple sells computers. 1222 00:51:28,060 --> 00:51:29,250 So does Dell. 1223 00:51:29,250 --> 00:51:30,240 Bentley sells cars. 1224 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:31,570 So does Cadillac. 1225 00:51:31,570 --> 00:51:33,130 Vertu sells cell phones. 1226 00:51:33,130 --> 00:51:34,830 And so does Nokia. 1227 00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:36,740 But their distribution channel and models 1228 00:51:36,740 --> 00:51:38,142 are dramatically different. 1229 00:51:38,142 --> 00:51:40,100 So I'm going to give you a few examples of what 1230 00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:42,920 I consider really innovative business models. 1231 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,790 Some of these companies we touched upon already today I'll 1232 00:51:45,790 --> 00:51:47,264 touch upon a few of them again. 1233 00:51:47,264 --> 00:51:48,680 And we can go into any more detail 1234 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,810 you want or ask questions. 1235 00:51:49,810 --> 00:51:51,977 But I think Amazon is probably one of the greatest 1236 00:51:51,977 --> 00:51:52,810 companies out there. 1237 00:51:52,810 --> 00:51:54,730 Jeff Bezos is an absolute genius. 1238 00:51:54,730 --> 00:51:58,541 Might be why he's worth over $20 billion. 1239 00:51:58,541 --> 00:52:03,210 He has figured out a company that he started, 1240 00:52:03,210 --> 00:52:09,160 based on the concept of selling books online and harnessing 1241 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,170 what was called user groups or essentially 1242 00:52:12,170 --> 00:52:16,180 peer-to-peer communication in order to provide reviews. 1243 00:52:16,180 --> 00:52:19,050 That was the initial concept. 1244 00:52:19,050 --> 00:52:20,870 We're going to sell books online. 1245 00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:23,510 And we're going to harness the power of the internet, where 1246 00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:26,841 people provide feedback about the books they purchased. 1247 00:52:26,841 --> 00:52:27,840 Were they happy with it? 1248 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:28,460 Was it good? 1249 00:52:28,460 --> 00:52:30,160 Was it-- et cetera. 1250 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,970 We take all this for granted now, because since then we 1251 00:52:32,970 --> 00:52:34,170 can pick movies that way. 1252 00:52:34,170 --> 00:52:35,640 We can pick restaurants that way. 1253 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,480 We can pick hotels that way. 1254 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,490 That user experience is there. 1255 00:52:39,490 --> 00:52:42,610 But Amazon has gone far bigger than that. 1256 00:52:42,610 --> 00:52:44,400 So I look at the Amazon business model. 1257 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,380 I say basically it's a business model of leveraging assets. 1258 00:52:48,380 --> 00:52:50,502 That's the business model. 1259 00:52:50,502 --> 00:52:51,960 How many of you have been following 1260 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,935 what Amazon's doing lately? 1261 00:52:54,935 --> 00:52:56,560 A couple of big announcements at Amazon 1262 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:02,380 in the past 30 days, the 60 Minutes special. 1263 00:53:02,380 --> 00:53:04,200 How cool is that? 1264 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,850 If anything, it could just be a project of Bezos. 1265 00:53:07,850 --> 00:53:13,240 But think about just the idea of the drone concept of delivering 1266 00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:16,700 packages in a way that actually reaches the consumer, 1267 00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:19,240 essentially the goal being the same day that they order. 1268 00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:20,990 So they've got this drone concept 1269 00:53:20,990 --> 00:53:23,870 that is going to allow these robotic drones to provide 1270 00:53:23,870 --> 00:53:25,250 people packages. 1271 00:53:25,250 --> 00:53:27,240 Now we all know there's lots of red tape there. 1272 00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:30,945 You've got-- you've got the approval of the FAA. 1273 00:53:30,945 --> 00:53:33,250 You've got all these other governmental issues. 1274 00:53:33,250 --> 00:53:35,250 But the fact that they are thinking that far out 1275 00:53:35,250 --> 00:53:37,220 of the box-- think about this. 1276 00:53:37,220 --> 00:53:38,970 I'm going to use that example from before. 1277 00:53:38,970 --> 00:53:42,470 Imagine if Jeff Bezos walked into his investors and said, 1278 00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:42,970 yo dude. 1279 00:53:42,970 --> 00:53:45,110 I need some money because I got this idea. 1280 00:53:45,110 --> 00:53:47,730 We're going to sell books online. 1281 00:53:47,730 --> 00:53:49,620 And people are going to tell us whether they 1282 00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:51,230 like the books or not, which will then 1283 00:53:51,230 --> 00:53:54,150 enforce whether we sell more books or not, 1284 00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:55,940 whether we carry that author anymore. 1285 00:53:55,940 --> 00:53:59,680 And then soon, we're going to have drones delivering stuff. 1286 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,350 It's crazy. 1287 00:54:00,350 --> 00:54:03,880 What can't you buy on Amazon right now? 1288 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:04,440 It's amazing. 1289 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,060 I can buy tools on Amazon. 1290 00:54:06,060 --> 00:54:08,250 I can buy anything on Amazon. 1291 00:54:08,250 --> 00:54:09,330 The drones is one thing. 1292 00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:11,110 The latest one that came out this week was fantastic. 1293 00:54:11,110 --> 00:54:12,610 What was the other release that they 1294 00:54:12,610 --> 00:54:17,431 were talking about this week regarding Amazon? 1295 00:54:17,431 --> 00:54:17,930 I'm sorry. 1296 00:54:17,930 --> 00:54:19,260 Say it louder. 1297 00:54:19,260 --> 00:54:20,135 AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] 1298 00:54:21,777 --> 00:54:22,610 RICH KIVEL: Exactly. 1299 00:54:22,610 --> 00:54:24,540 Did you hear the new word that came out for this? 1300 00:54:24,540 --> 00:54:26,915 This is definitely going to be one of those things that's 1301 00:54:26,915 --> 00:54:35,440 in the 2014 anticipatory-- so it's anticipatory consumer 1302 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,530 something or other. 1303 00:54:36,530 --> 00:54:37,470 I don't even remember what it is. 1304 00:54:37,470 --> 00:54:38,553 I just heard it this week. 1305 00:54:38,553 --> 00:54:39,185 I loved it. 1306 00:54:39,185 --> 00:54:40,810 This is going to be one of those things 1307 00:54:40,810 --> 00:54:42,309 that next-- at the end of this year, 1308 00:54:42,309 --> 00:54:47,190 it'll be the new word that falls in to the dictionary. 1309 00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:50,750 The concept that they know so much about us 1310 00:54:50,750 --> 00:54:54,900 that they can actually begin to anticipate what we might buy, 1311 00:54:54,900 --> 00:54:57,490 very similar to how Google is a data company-- they can 1312 00:54:57,490 --> 00:55:00,870 anticipate what we're going to click on next-- Google 1313 00:55:00,870 --> 00:55:04,330 can pretty much tell so much about you, just 1314 00:55:04,330 --> 00:55:06,310 on what you're clicking on next, and the speed 1315 00:55:06,310 --> 00:55:08,060 at which you do it, and how long you spend on a website. 1316 00:55:08,060 --> 00:55:09,518 Amazon does exactly the same thing. 1317 00:55:09,518 --> 00:55:11,340 We all go on to Amazon now. 1318 00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:14,430 And it will say, other people that purchased that product 1319 00:55:14,430 --> 00:55:16,560 also bought these eight. 1320 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,780 Or here is your last purchases. 1321 00:55:18,780 --> 00:55:21,420 Here's some recommendations for you. 1322 00:55:21,420 --> 00:55:24,420 It's gotten so good that it's so much-- I don't even 1323 00:55:24,420 --> 00:55:26,240 understand why people do junk male anymore. 1324 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,660 It blows my mind. 1325 00:55:28,660 --> 00:55:33,790 I get stuff in junk mail for clearly not my demographic, 1326 00:55:33,790 --> 00:55:36,530 stuff that might be perfect if I was a 17-year-old girl 1327 00:55:36,530 --> 00:55:39,500 or an 88-year-old guy. 1328 00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:42,630 I'm like, why are they advertising that to me? 1329 00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:44,559 It's amazing. 1330 00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:46,600 It's even when it just shows up, it's in my mail. 1331 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:47,670 I'm talking about inbox. 1332 00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:49,010 So this stuff comes in. 1333 00:55:49,010 --> 00:55:51,470 You think, what a wacky way to make money. 1334 00:55:51,470 --> 00:55:53,870 Amazon's got it down. 1335 00:55:53,870 --> 00:55:55,430 They recommend things that make sense 1336 00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:56,920 to me because they take a look. 1337 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,750 I've been an Amazon member for years. 1338 00:55:58,750 --> 00:56:00,210 They can say, listen these are the kind of books 1339 00:56:00,210 --> 00:56:00,910 this guy's ordered. 1340 00:56:00,910 --> 00:56:02,070 This is the kind of music he's ordered. 1341 00:56:02,070 --> 00:56:03,450 This is the kind of other stuff. 1342 00:56:03,450 --> 00:56:05,390 Hey, we have some recommendations. 1343 00:56:05,390 --> 00:56:08,000 They're not recommending to me silly things 1344 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,000 that just don't make sense. 1345 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,240 So now Amazon going to this next approach, which is absolutely-- 1346 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,445 it's so MIT-ish, I loved it. 1347 00:56:15,445 --> 00:56:17,790 It is algorithmically driven. 1348 00:56:17,790 --> 00:56:22,524 It is anticipatory shopping, that anticipatory experience, 1349 00:56:22,524 --> 00:56:24,190 where they actually believe that they're 1350 00:56:24,190 --> 00:56:26,960 going to reach a point where they have 1351 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,710 such familiarity with you, that they have an idea what you are 1352 00:56:31,710 --> 00:56:34,610 likely to buy next, based on prior purchasing habits, 1353 00:56:34,610 --> 00:56:38,140 based on the time of day, the time of year, you name it, 1354 00:56:38,140 --> 00:56:41,030 that what they're envisioning is that they will actually begin 1355 00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:44,830 to ship those things to the closest warehouse to you, 1356 00:56:44,830 --> 00:56:49,340 and deliver to them to you that day or the following day. 1357 00:56:49,340 --> 00:56:51,130 It's mind boggling. 1358 00:56:51,130 --> 00:56:51,950 All-around data. 1359 00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:52,870 Amazon's incredible. 1360 00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:53,740 They're leveraging assets. 1361 00:56:53,740 --> 00:56:55,550 Apple-- we could talk about them for years. 1362 00:56:55,550 --> 00:56:58,482 Has anybody here seen the Steve Jobs movie? 1363 00:56:58,482 --> 00:57:00,940 I just watched that, coming back from California last week. 1364 00:57:00,940 --> 00:57:03,020 That thing-- what a fantastic movie. 1365 00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:07,500 And Ashton Kutcher did a fantastic job as Steve Jobs. 1366 00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:10,460 But the genius of this guy really 1367 00:57:10,460 --> 00:57:12,225 spoke about why Apple succeeded. 1368 00:57:12,225 --> 00:57:15,120 And it was a great story about how he started, and got 1369 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,480 kicked out, and came back. 1370 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,840 But it's really providing convenient solutions. 1371 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,090 Apple is about quality design. 1372 00:57:22,090 --> 00:57:25,640 And stuff better work the first time. 1373 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,550 When you plug it in, it better sync. 1374 00:57:27,550 --> 00:57:29,880 When you go to the app store, it better be there. 1375 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,200 It better download. 1376 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,700 If it doesn't-- it's incredible how good they are. 1377 00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:36,840 It's all about convenience. 1378 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,670 That is a totally different model 1379 00:57:38,670 --> 00:57:41,700 than virtually every other computer company out there. 1380 00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:44,444 Dell's a great company, has a different model. 1381 00:57:44,444 --> 00:57:45,735 We're going to build it custom. 1382 00:57:45,735 --> 00:57:47,120 You tell us what you want in it. 1383 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,120 We're going to modify it any which way you wish. 1384 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,960 And we're going to ship it to you. 1385 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,920 It's not the Apple model. 1386 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,206 Who would have thought years ago-- many of you 1387 00:57:56,206 --> 00:57:58,220 may not even remember, but years ago there 1388 00:57:58,220 --> 00:58:01,305 was no such thing as Apple stores. 1389 00:58:01,305 --> 00:58:02,680 How do you buy an Apple computer? 1390 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,310 Well you bought it primarily online. 1391 00:58:05,310 --> 00:58:07,770 There were very few distributors of Apple computers. 1392 00:58:07,770 --> 00:58:09,960 Apple started off selling to large school systems 1393 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,920 and others. 1394 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,450 And now the Apple Store is as common in cities in the United 1395 00:58:15,450 --> 00:58:19,750 States and towns as a Starbucks. 1396 00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:23,570 What a different model that is-- totally mind boggling. 1397 00:58:23,570 --> 00:58:28,050 When most people were moving away from retail box stores-- 1398 00:58:28,050 --> 00:58:32,640 those expensive locations-- and moving to everything 1399 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,290 being internet, Apple said no, no, no. 1400 00:58:34,290 --> 00:58:36,220 We want to be closer to the consumer. 1401 00:58:36,220 --> 00:58:38,760 We want the experience to be superb. 1402 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,980 We want them to be part of this experience. 1403 00:58:41,980 --> 00:58:43,182 They've then opened stores. 1404 00:58:43,182 --> 00:58:45,140 And they're making tremendous money doing that. 1405 00:58:45,140 --> 00:58:46,910 Who knows Etsy? 1406 00:58:46,910 --> 00:58:48,620 These guys are cool, aren't they? 1407 00:58:48,620 --> 00:58:50,450 What a neat idea. 1408 00:58:50,450 --> 00:58:54,920 Doing good on a global basis, something that could never 1409 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,600 been done years ago-- a business model 1410 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,100 where they basically figured out ways 1411 00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:02,050 to harness the power of creativity, 1412 00:59:02,050 --> 00:59:05,030 the power of different parts of the world, people living 1413 00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:07,900 in small villages building beautiful things that 1414 00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:11,240 would never be seen outside of probably a 500-mile radius 1415 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,900 of their village, if that, are now 1416 00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:15,440 part of this very special network 1417 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,820 where they can build things. 1418 00:59:16,820 --> 00:59:18,020 And you can go online. 1419 00:59:18,020 --> 00:59:19,430 And you can purchase them. 1420 00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:21,300 And a very small piece is kept by Etsy. 1421 00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:24,710 And most of it goes back to the artist, to the individual. 1422 00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:27,440 It's phenomenal, the thought that somebody sitting 1423 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,380 in Peru or Uganda, or somebody sitting in a far part of Russia 1424 00:59:32,380 --> 00:59:34,860 that builds beautiful things is actually 1425 00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:38,390 selling them to people sitting in Japan or in Paris 1426 00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:40,380 or in Boston. 1427 00:59:40,380 --> 00:59:42,570 It's absolutely incredible. 1428 00:59:42,570 --> 00:59:44,870 Other innovative models Zara is probably my favorite. 1429 00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:47,240 Everybody here knows Zara at this point. 1430 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:47,940 I love Spain. 1431 00:59:47,940 --> 00:59:48,730 And I love Zara. 1432 00:59:48,730 --> 00:59:52,430 They're an absolutely mind boggling story. 1433 00:59:52,430 --> 00:59:55,780 Who thought one company could innovate an industry that 1434 00:59:55,780 --> 00:59:59,140 has been stagnant and without innovation 1435 00:59:59,140 --> 01:00:00,140 as the fashion industry? 1436 01:00:00,140 --> 01:00:03,110 The fashion industry has operated the same way 1437 01:00:03,110 --> 01:00:06,800 for about 100 years. 1438 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:07,970 They have models. 1439 01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:09,170 They have designers. 1440 01:00:09,170 --> 01:00:10,710 They have magazines. 1441 01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:13,480 The only innovation, the only innovation 1442 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,840 that's actually hit the fashion industry 1443 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,320 is they sell some stuff online. 1444 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:20,720 They outsource manufacturing. 1445 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,190 They've been doing that for 75 years. 1446 01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:26,480 They have expensive high-paid designers. 1447 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,140 And they basically have a distribution channel 1448 01:00:29,140 --> 01:00:29,980 through retail. 1449 01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:32,260 It's been exactly the same way. 1450 01:00:32,260 --> 01:00:35,100 The challenge is that many people who want high fashion 1451 01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:37,060 can't afford high fashion. 1452 01:00:37,060 --> 01:00:39,630 These guys came in and revolutionized the market. 1453 01:00:39,630 --> 01:00:42,490 And their business model was harnessed and built 1454 01:00:42,490 --> 01:00:45,110 around time-to-market. 1455 01:00:45,110 --> 01:00:47,060 That is the business model. 1456 01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:50,970 They put people at every fashion show that's important. 1457 01:00:50,970 --> 01:00:54,620 They're in New York, Paris, Milan, everywhere. 1458 01:00:54,620 --> 01:00:56,980 And those people are there taking sketches, 1459 01:00:56,980 --> 01:00:59,970 taking digital photos, and those things they believe 1460 01:00:59,970 --> 01:01:02,110 the Zara consumer would want. 1461 01:01:02,110 --> 01:01:05,420 Those things are imaged, sent back instantly to the factory. 1462 01:01:05,420 --> 01:01:10,340 50% of all Zara products are made in Spain. 1463 01:01:10,340 --> 01:01:11,540 They're sent back. 1464 01:01:11,540 --> 01:01:14,990 They're built. And they're sent to the stores. 1465 01:01:14,990 --> 01:01:18,626 Virtually none of the products you find in the Zara 1466 01:01:18,626 --> 01:01:20,250 last in the store more than four weeks. 1467 01:01:20,250 --> 01:01:22,124 And they will not continue to replenish them. 1468 01:01:22,124 --> 01:01:25,810 They've created this concept of scarcity, this concept 1469 01:01:25,810 --> 01:01:28,020 that what you're buying is high fashion 1470 01:01:28,020 --> 01:01:30,910 and it's in a limited supply. 1471 01:01:30,910 --> 01:01:34,410 That is fantastic, compared to you go to Macy's. 1472 01:01:34,410 --> 01:01:37,690 And there's 800 of the same sweaters. 1473 01:01:37,690 --> 01:01:40,130 And there's 8,000 of the same men's shirts. 1474 01:01:40,130 --> 01:01:44,210 And if I go to a different Macy's, it's exactly the same. 1475 01:01:44,210 --> 01:01:46,360 There's no sense of scarcity there. 1476 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,320 Very low design, very high volume. 1477 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,860 However, if I walk into the Armani shop 1478 01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:57,540 on Newbury Street or the Fendi shop, and look at the bags, 1479 01:01:57,540 --> 01:02:01,700 there's a sense of scarcity-- high price, limited resource. 1480 01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:02,760 This is this year's bag. 1481 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,990 This year's jacket. 1482 01:02:04,990 --> 01:02:07,810 Zara basically turned it on its head and said, no, no, no no. 1483 01:02:07,810 --> 01:02:12,080 We're going to have scarcity and volume and price. 1484 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,010 And they nailed it on all of those. 1485 01:02:14,010 --> 01:02:16,430 You don't ever see the Zara stuff of at Marshalls and T.J. 1486 01:02:16,430 --> 01:02:18,120 Maxx, do you? 1487 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,674 Because they don't have excess inventory. 1488 01:02:20,674 --> 01:02:22,840 The reason you can walk into Marshalls and T.J. Maxx 1489 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,230 and pick up Burberry and Cartier and all these other brands 1490 01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:31,020 is because Bloomingdale's and Macy's and all of them 1491 01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:31,930 overstocked on them. 1492 01:02:31,930 --> 01:02:32,830 The season changed. 1493 01:02:32,830 --> 01:02:34,580 They don't know what to do with the stuff. 1494 01:02:34,580 --> 01:02:38,930 So they slash price 60% off, 70% off, 80% off, then boom, it's 1495 01:02:38,930 --> 01:02:40,875 off to Marshalls. 1496 01:02:40,875 --> 01:02:43,500 And those companies have created an entirely different business 1497 01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:46,544 model of getting high-quality goods to consumers. 1498 01:02:46,544 --> 01:02:47,460 Zara said, no, no, no. 1499 01:02:47,460 --> 01:02:49,027 We're not playing that game. 1500 01:02:49,027 --> 01:02:49,860 Let me ask you this. 1501 01:02:49,860 --> 01:02:54,280 When's the last time you saw a Zara advertisement on TV? 1502 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,630 It doesn't exist. 1503 01:02:55,630 --> 01:03:01,150 When's the last time you saw a Macy's one-day sale on TV? 1504 01:03:01,150 --> 01:03:02,870 Once a day. 1505 01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:05,280 Entirely different business model, same industry. 1506 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,170 Zara is amazing. 1507 01:03:06,170 --> 01:03:08,160 I want to finish off these with Gillette who's 1508 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,210 absolutely just fantastic. 1509 01:03:10,210 --> 01:03:12,530 Gillette, right here in Massachusetts. 1510 01:03:12,530 --> 01:03:14,360 You see them on your way to the airport. 1511 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,530 This is the company that created the concept-- they created 1512 01:03:17,530 --> 01:03:20,190 the first ever disposable razor, which is a fantastic 1513 01:03:20,190 --> 01:03:21,887 concept, back in the '20s. 1514 01:03:21,887 --> 01:03:23,470 They then decided that they were going 1515 01:03:23,470 --> 01:03:25,300 to stay at the cutting edge of technology. 1516 01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:31,810 Gillette has over 1,000 patents just around the Mach3 razor. 1517 01:03:31,810 --> 01:03:34,930 They have thousands of patents within their entire portfolio. 1518 01:03:34,930 --> 01:03:39,420 And they will not start creating a new razor 1519 01:03:39,420 --> 01:03:43,760 until almost a patent life has expired on the existing 1520 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:44,810 razors on the market. 1521 01:03:44,810 --> 01:03:47,560 They do not want to compete against themselves. 1522 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:48,910 They've created this mechanism. 1523 01:03:48,910 --> 01:03:50,590 It's absolutely mind boggling. 1524 01:03:50,590 --> 01:03:52,550 We get the Mach3 razor as a [? base ?]. 1525 01:03:52,550 --> 01:03:55,180 It comes off the assembly line in the United States. 1526 01:03:55,180 --> 01:03:57,350 If you go to other countries, especially developing 1527 01:03:57,350 --> 01:03:59,310 countries, they're getting the razor 1528 01:03:59,310 --> 01:04:03,360 that was hot here five years ago because they realize 1529 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,650 that they can sell it for a third of the price 1530 01:04:05,650 --> 01:04:07,140 in large quantities. 1531 01:04:07,140 --> 01:04:09,750 Those countries can't afford the Mach3. 1532 01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:12,060 But they can afford the one that was five years ago, 1533 01:04:12,060 --> 01:04:12,950 eight years ago. 1534 01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:15,227 And they're buying them by the millions. 1535 01:04:15,227 --> 01:04:17,310 And in addition to that, they created that concept 1536 01:04:17,310 --> 01:04:19,430 of the razor-blade concept. 1537 01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:22,069 It's essentially, you've got the razor. 1538 01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:24,110 All you have to do is just keep buying the blades 1539 01:04:24,110 --> 01:04:25,026 and buying the blades. 1540 01:04:25,026 --> 01:04:27,360 And they can charge whatever they want for the blades. 1541 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,630 Or you have to start fresh with Schick or somebody else. 1542 01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:35,620 So it's a fantastic concept of high quality, patents 1543 01:04:35,620 --> 01:04:37,880 there in order to maintain their position 1544 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:43,060 within the marketplace, and also customer stickiness. 1545 01:04:43,060 --> 01:04:44,490 We gave them this pretty razor. 1546 01:04:44,490 --> 01:04:45,150 It's beautiful. 1547 01:04:45,150 --> 01:04:46,100 It's got metal on it. 1548 01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:47,230 It's got nice colors. 1549 01:04:47,230 --> 01:04:49,105 They're just going to keep buying the blades, 1550 01:04:49,105 --> 01:04:50,980 buying the blades, and buying the blades. 1551 01:04:50,980 --> 01:04:53,120 So it's a fantastic series of different business 1552 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,544 models within one. 1553 01:04:54,544 --> 01:04:55,960 Other ones we're all familiar with 1554 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,550 are great groups like Kickstarter, 1555 01:04:57,550 --> 01:05:02,410 PayPal are really leveraging the whole P2P revolution. 1556 01:05:02,410 --> 01:05:03,990 It's absolutely amazing what you see. 1557 01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:06,470 Craig's List is a fantastic example of that. 1558 01:05:06,470 --> 01:05:09,600 Their website is about as sexy as the Google page. 1559 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,430 There's really nothing attractive about it. 1560 01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:13,660 But it's an incredibly successful business. 1561 01:05:13,660 --> 01:05:14,920 We talked about Dell. 1562 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,570 They built their entire success around 1563 01:05:16,570 --> 01:05:18,060 the just-in-time concept. 1564 01:05:18,060 --> 01:05:21,240 We're going to build a computer exactly the way you want it. 1565 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,820 In addition to that, you've got the one day, one deal business 1566 01:05:24,820 --> 01:05:25,750 model. 1567 01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:27,410 We're all familiar with our inboxes 1568 01:05:27,410 --> 01:05:30,290 full of Living Social and Groupon and all 1569 01:05:30,290 --> 01:05:31,187 these other groups. 1570 01:05:31,187 --> 01:05:33,020 In addition to that, you've got other groups 1571 01:05:33,020 --> 01:05:36,280 like Priceline, which I think is a phenomenal model, and really 1572 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,379 unique advertising too. 1573 01:05:37,379 --> 01:05:39,670 They've taken an approach, unlike a lot of these groups 1574 01:05:39,670 --> 01:05:42,160 here who you never see on TV. 1575 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,020 Priceline has taken the approach of using somebody like Shatner 1576 01:05:45,020 --> 01:05:48,450 or other people that basically get them excited about-- you 1577 01:05:48,450 --> 01:05:50,560 set your price, you're in control. 1578 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:51,836 And some of us love that. 1579 01:05:51,836 --> 01:05:52,960 Some people love Priceline. 1580 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,830 I have friends that use Priceline all of the time. 1581 01:05:55,830 --> 01:05:56,940 Some of us just jump on. 1582 01:05:56,940 --> 01:05:58,190 And we just go to expedia.com. 1583 01:05:58,190 --> 01:05:59,556 And we book our hotel. 1584 01:05:59,556 --> 01:06:01,180 Or we go to the new one, Hotel Tonight, 1585 01:06:01,180 --> 01:06:02,710 which is my favorite app, especially when I'm 1586 01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:04,120 going to different cities. 1587 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,770 You jump onto Hotel Tonight, entirely different model. 1588 01:06:06,770 --> 01:06:11,260 They only list hotels after 12:00 in the afternoon. 1589 01:06:11,260 --> 01:06:15,140 They cut these special deals with the hotels for that night. 1590 01:06:15,140 --> 01:06:17,530 So you wind up staying at fantastic places 1591 01:06:17,530 --> 01:06:20,330 because they knew at 11:55 they had availability. 1592 01:06:20,330 --> 01:06:22,140 They released the rooms to Hotel Tonight. 1593 01:06:22,140 --> 01:06:26,550 Hotel Tonight kills hotels.com, another one, that day. 1594 01:06:26,550 --> 01:06:29,261 It might not be the way to book a seven-day vacation. 1595 01:06:29,261 --> 01:06:31,510 But if you're looking for two nights in New York City, 1596 01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:32,310 it's phenomenal. 1597 01:06:32,310 --> 01:06:34,930 It's all on your app, not on the website. 1598 01:06:34,930 --> 01:06:37,020 You can't even do it on the website. 1599 01:06:37,020 --> 01:06:39,180 Uber's another fantastic example of that. 1600 01:06:39,180 --> 01:06:41,890 Instant gratification, car-service quality, 1601 01:06:41,890 --> 01:06:46,120 not a taxi cab, all web-based, all app-based. 1602 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,670 So to summarize, value proposition, market segment 1603 01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:52,080 and value chain are really understandings that you 1604 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,577 have to have in this area of developing a business model. 1605 01:06:55,577 --> 01:06:56,910 Where do you sit in the network? 1606 01:06:56,910 --> 01:06:58,570 Exactly where are you on the field? 1607 01:06:58,570 --> 01:07:00,440 And revenue generation and margins-- those 1608 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,330 are two different things. 1609 01:07:01,330 --> 01:07:02,990 You have to think about what's important to you. 1610 01:07:02,990 --> 01:07:04,781 Are you going to be a high-margin business, 1611 01:07:04,781 --> 01:07:05,290 low volume? 1612 01:07:05,290 --> 01:07:07,740 Are you going to be a high-revenue business 1613 01:07:07,740 --> 01:07:08,684 and low margin? 1614 01:07:08,684 --> 01:07:10,600 Or are you going to try to do what Apple does, 1615 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,237 which is a combination of both? 1616 01:07:12,237 --> 01:07:14,320 Where do you fit within the competitive landscape? 1617 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,320 And of course, the stage of development of your company 1618 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:16,980 is critical. 1619 01:07:16,980 --> 01:07:21,400 Where are you within that particular growth cycle? 1620 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,720 And always remember that success consists 1621 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,180 from going from failure to failure 1622 01:07:25,180 --> 01:07:26,845 without a loss of enthusiasm. 1623 01:07:26,845 --> 01:07:27,720 And I'll close there. 1624 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:28,920 Thank you all. 1625 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,625 [APPLAUSE]