1 00:00:10,540 --> 00:00:13,110 We all know that we are in a global world. 2 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:16,730 Companies have operations all over the planet. 3 00:00:16,730 --> 00:00:19,010 And a big question we have to face 4 00:00:19,010 --> 00:00:21,590 is how do we keep these global corporations 5 00:00:21,590 --> 00:00:26,230 accountable for providing good jobs and decent work in far 6 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:27,700 flung places? 7 00:00:27,700 --> 00:00:32,070 Let's do it through a company we all know and love-- 8 00:00:32,070 --> 00:00:33,020 Nike. 9 00:00:33,020 --> 00:00:35,860 Nike was a pioneer in this area. 10 00:00:35,860 --> 00:00:39,440 In the 1960s, Nike was one of the first companies that said 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,210 we will design our work here. 12 00:00:42,210 --> 00:00:46,000 We will market and sell our products around the world, 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,840 particularly in the United States, 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,250 but we can find cheaper places to manufacture them. 15 00:00:51,250 --> 00:00:54,160 First, they started in Japan, and Korea, 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:59,250 and then Indonesia, and Vietnam, and China, and Bangladesh. 17 00:00:59,250 --> 00:01:03,660 As they did so, a number of problems became known. 18 00:01:03,660 --> 00:01:07,400 The Nike products more marketed well with Michael Jordan 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,780 and so on, but Labor Standards became a problem. 20 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:15,050 They were famously found having child labor, 21 00:01:15,050 --> 00:01:17,130 to having unsafe working conditions, 22 00:01:17,130 --> 00:01:21,020 to having long hours of unpaid overtime in their factories 23 00:01:21,020 --> 00:01:21,640 abroad. 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,530 And what was Nike's response? 25 00:01:23,530 --> 00:01:24,530 Well, wait a minute. 26 00:01:24,530 --> 00:01:27,010 These aren't our problems, these are our contractors. 27 00:01:27,010 --> 00:01:28,560 These are not our employees. 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,440 We don't treat our employees that way. 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,150 Somebody else's problem. 30 00:01:32,150 --> 00:01:38,280 And that lasted for awhile, but by the middle of the 1990s, 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,190 Nike watched its stock price begin to fall. 32 00:01:41,190 --> 00:01:44,940 It saw the publicity begin to grow and grow. 33 00:01:44,940 --> 00:01:48,700 And finally, Phil Knight, the CEO of Nike, 34 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:50,330 made this famous statement. 35 00:01:50,330 --> 00:01:52,230 He said, Nike's products have become 36 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:55,730 synonymous with slave wages, forced overtime, 37 00:01:55,730 --> 00:01:59,270 and arbitrary abuse, and we need to do something about it 38 00:01:59,270 --> 00:02:03,030 to change that image, or we're going to suffer as a company. 39 00:02:03,030 --> 00:02:04,720 So what did Nike do? 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,940 Well, to its credit, it took a whole set of actions. 41 00:02:07,940 --> 00:02:11,340 First, it created a social responsibility unit 42 00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:13,880 within its organization and assigned people 43 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,870 the responsibility to say, fix this problem. 44 00:02:16,870 --> 00:02:18,870 That was a good start, but not enough. 45 00:02:18,870 --> 00:02:22,560 Second, they created what are called codes of conduct. 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,850 They established minimum wages, and rules 47 00:02:26,850 --> 00:02:29,590 against sexual harassment, and rules 48 00:02:29,590 --> 00:02:34,290 for maximum hours and overtime, and freedom of association. 49 00:02:34,290 --> 00:02:37,740 And they started to apply that code of conduct 50 00:02:37,740 --> 00:02:40,790 to all factories that they contracted 51 00:02:40,790 --> 00:02:43,140 with throughout their global supply chain. 52 00:02:43,140 --> 00:02:46,530 They sent auditors out there to measure compliance 53 00:02:46,530 --> 00:02:48,180 with its code of conduct. 54 00:02:48,180 --> 00:02:51,190 They took some of their expert operations managers 55 00:02:51,190 --> 00:02:54,460 and manufacturing experts, sent them to some of these plants 56 00:02:54,460 --> 00:02:57,460 to help consult, to help people both build 57 00:02:57,460 --> 00:03:01,320 safe working conditions, but also efficient ways 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,460 of manufacturing products to improve safety, 59 00:03:04,460 --> 00:03:07,060 improve quality, improve productivity. 60 00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:10,110 They went on and worked with a variety 61 00:03:10,110 --> 00:03:12,050 of non-governmental organizations, 62 00:03:12,050 --> 00:03:15,250 or NGOs in these countries who are advocating 63 00:03:15,250 --> 00:03:18,430 for improved employment conditions, safety standards, 64 00:03:18,430 --> 00:03:22,160 and in some cases, environmental standards in these factories. 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,560 They shared this audit data with academic researchers, 66 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,800 including a team of researchers here at MIT, 67 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,700 where they started to analyze the data and learn what works 68 00:03:32,700 --> 00:03:33,810 and what didn't. 69 00:03:33,810 --> 00:03:36,650 They also created a website, and to their credit, 70 00:03:36,650 --> 00:03:39,560 you can go on this website and you can find 71 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,360 all their factories listed. 72 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600 You can find the audit scores, and you 73 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,810 can find an analysis of what is working 74 00:03:45,810 --> 00:03:50,020 and a very frank analysis of what isn't working. 75 00:03:50,020 --> 00:03:53,930 They met here at MIT, and later, at Stanford 76 00:03:53,930 --> 00:03:58,860 with multiple stakeholders, NGOs, academics, competitors, 77 00:03:58,860 --> 00:04:03,190 suppliers, in forming what they call a just supply chain 78 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:05,560 project and set of practices. 79 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,570 The research findings from our MIT project, 80 00:04:08,570 --> 00:04:10,800 led by my colleague Richard Locke, 81 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,500 reached a number of conclusions. 82 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:15,590 First, they found that NGO pressure 83 00:04:15,590 --> 00:04:18,010 was really important to get this thing going. 84 00:04:18,010 --> 00:04:20,800 Nike and other companies like Hewlett Packard, 85 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,260 and other electronics firms, and other consumer companies 86 00:04:25,260 --> 00:04:27,130 that followed in Nike's footsteps 87 00:04:27,130 --> 00:04:30,420 did it because there was transparency and pressure that 88 00:04:30,420 --> 00:04:33,570 was being brought to bear to get them to do so. 89 00:04:33,570 --> 00:04:36,120 The codes of conduct were successful and the audits 90 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,360 we're successful, but only partially. 91 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,460 They seem to bring the practices up to about 50% to 60% 92 00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:45,830 of the overall goals that were established 93 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:47,380 in the standards that were set. 94 00:04:47,380 --> 00:04:49,820 So there's lots of room for improvement. 95 00:04:49,820 --> 00:04:53,270 The standard that was most frequently violated 96 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:56,560 was around working hours and overtime hours. 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,810 Why is that? 98 00:04:57,810 --> 00:04:59,860 It's important for us to know, because we 99 00:04:59,860 --> 00:05:01,060 are part of the problem. 100 00:05:01,060 --> 00:05:03,860 As we are fickle consumers, and all of a sudden 101 00:05:03,860 --> 00:05:08,240 we want the latest logo, or the latest scarf, 102 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,300 or the latest shirt, and so the company 103 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:13,220 puts pressure on the supply chain 104 00:05:13,220 --> 00:05:15,170 to get those products in a hurry. 105 00:05:15,170 --> 00:05:17,860 And the contractor there out in Asia or somewhere else 106 00:05:17,860 --> 00:05:21,430 says to employees, I need those, I need them today and get them 107 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:24,080 done no matter what, or we're going to lose this contract. 108 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,310 And so they work long hours, and they're forced to work overtime 109 00:05:27,310 --> 00:05:29,950 and all kinds of bad things happen after that. 110 00:05:29,950 --> 00:05:32,340 But the scores of suppliers that got better 111 00:05:32,340 --> 00:05:34,690 had three key ingredients. 112 00:05:34,690 --> 00:05:38,360 First, they got management help from Nike and other companies. 113 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Secondly, they were in countries that 114 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,700 had stronger rules of law, less corrupt governments, 115 00:05:43,700 --> 00:05:47,380 and they had stronger rules governing human rights 116 00:05:47,380 --> 00:05:49,160 and commercial practices. 117 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,890 And so the environment of the country matters. 118 00:05:51,890 --> 00:05:55,650 So this is all great progress. 119 00:05:55,650 --> 00:05:57,860 Companies have learned how to do this. 120 00:05:57,860 --> 00:06:00,510 But what about us? 121 00:06:00,510 --> 00:06:02,890 If we're part of the problem, we ought 122 00:06:02,890 --> 00:06:04,600 to be part of the solution. 123 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,300 There are a number of things that have been very positive. 124 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,540 There's an organization on college campuses 125 00:06:09,540 --> 00:06:13,140 around the country called United Students Against Sweatshops, 126 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:15,500 and they have put pressure on their universities-- 127 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:17,600 universities like Cornell and Brown 128 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,020 and Wisconsin and others to make sure 129 00:06:20,020 --> 00:06:23,820 that they're only buying their university logo apparel 130 00:06:23,820 --> 00:06:26,340 and athletic wear from companies that 131 00:06:26,340 --> 00:06:31,110 have these kinds of just supply chain practices in place. 132 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:34,150 So we can do this, but it takes a lot of energy, 133 00:06:34,150 --> 00:06:35,940 and a lot of collective effort. 134 00:06:35,940 --> 00:06:40,160 And it has to be done by all the parties working together. 135 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,810 Companies can't do it alone. 136 00:06:41,810 --> 00:06:43,960 NGOs can't do it alone. 137 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,460 Local governments can't do it alone. 138 00:06:46,460 --> 00:06:50,190 But if they all work together, and build a sustained effort 139 00:06:50,190 --> 00:06:52,520 to improve the conditions, and then 140 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,750 produce the data that makes it all transparent 141 00:06:55,750 --> 00:06:58,760 for us as consumers, we can make a difference 142 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,360 in improving the conditions of very low wage workers 143 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,040 in many developing countries. 144 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,390 So I'd like to ask you two questions. 145 00:07:09,390 --> 00:07:13,940 Apple, our computer friends, and iPhone friends, 146 00:07:13,940 --> 00:07:17,600 and iPod friends are about two decades behind Nike. 147 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,960 They have experienced terrible problems with their contractors 148 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,490 in China and elsewhere. 149 00:07:23,490 --> 00:07:26,690 You may have heard about Foxconn with suicides 150 00:07:26,690 --> 00:07:30,880 of workers frustrated with terrible working conditions. 151 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,960 If you were to write to the CEO of Apple, 152 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,550 what should Apple learn from Nike's experiences? 153 00:07:37,550 --> 00:07:40,230 And then, more broadly, what can you 154 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:44,360 do to hold companies accountable for their global operations? 155 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,510 How can we take responsibility for making sure 156 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:52,110 that every shirt, every tie, every sweatshirt that we buy 157 00:07:52,110 --> 00:07:56,050 is made in a just supply chain, and keep asking, 158 00:07:56,050 --> 00:07:59,670 and be willing to pay for products that are made 159 00:07:59,670 --> 00:08:01,410 under fair working conditions? 160 00:08:01,410 --> 00:08:03,810 We can do that individually as consumers, 161 00:08:03,810 --> 00:08:08,130 and we can collectively set the norms that essentially 162 00:08:08,130 --> 00:08:11,050 say, to any company, if you want our business, 163 00:08:11,050 --> 00:08:14,360 then you've got to demonstrate that you are providing 164 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,500 safe and healthy working conditions, and fair wages 165 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:21,300 for people wherever they make these products.