1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,730 Today we're speaking with Liz Shuler, the secretary 2 00:00:07,730 --> 00:00:10,090 treasurer of AFL-CIO. 3 00:00:10,090 --> 00:00:13,530 Liz is not only the chief financial officer 4 00:00:13,530 --> 00:00:16,370 for the AFL-CIO, she has a special interest 5 00:00:16,370 --> 00:00:18,790 and responsibility in working with young people 6 00:00:18,790 --> 00:00:20,860 to introduce the Labor Movement to them 7 00:00:20,860 --> 00:00:22,770 and to learn from them about what 8 00:00:22,770 --> 00:00:25,330 they would like to see the Labor Movement of the future look 9 00:00:25,330 --> 00:00:25,830 like. 10 00:00:31,330 --> 00:00:33,420 So I'm the secretary treasurer, which 11 00:00:33,420 --> 00:00:37,220 is the chief financial of the AFL-CIO. 12 00:00:37,220 --> 00:00:39,610 We have 57 affiliated unions. 13 00:00:39,610 --> 00:00:41,310 And I actually came up through one 14 00:00:41,310 --> 00:00:42,910 of those unions, the International 15 00:00:42,910 --> 00:00:44,400 Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,220 as a rank and file member. 17 00:00:46,220 --> 00:00:50,530 And my responsibilities here are to manage the money 18 00:00:50,530 --> 00:00:53,440 and make sure that we're using the dues money wisely 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,140 and building program, making sure 20 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:59,200 that our finances are in order. 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,970 But in addition to that finance hat, 22 00:01:00,970 --> 00:01:06,720 I also work to engage, educate, mobilize young people 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,610 in our movement, particularly focused, as a woman officer, 24 00:01:10,610 --> 00:01:15,500 in making sure that we are engaging women in our Labor 25 00:01:15,500 --> 00:01:18,550 Movement and really speaking out on issues that affect women 26 00:01:18,550 --> 00:01:22,480 in the workplace, and then in terms of innovation, 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,410 what can we be doing as a labor movement 28 00:01:25,410 --> 00:01:28,780 to change as the workplace changes and evolves? 29 00:01:28,780 --> 00:01:31,570 And that can include anything from workforce development 30 00:01:31,570 --> 00:01:36,810 and training to issues around the on-demand economy. 31 00:01:36,810 --> 00:01:39,405 There's so much happening in the world of work. 32 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:47,200 Well, the young people in the Labor Movement-- 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,140 I was a young person when I first started in my union 34 00:01:50,140 --> 00:01:51,600 at 23 years old-- 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,280 often feel that they don't have as much 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,010 of a voice in our Labor Movement. 37 00:01:56,010 --> 00:02:00,190 And I wanted to figure out a way to change that and make 38 00:02:00,190 --> 00:02:06,700 their ideas and opinions and thoughts and approaches woven 39 00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:09,160 into the fabric of what we do every day. 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,380 So we started a young worker program we call NextUP 41 00:02:12,380 --> 00:02:13,890 about six years ago. 42 00:02:13,890 --> 00:02:16,850 And the intent was to figure out ways 43 00:02:16,850 --> 00:02:20,490 to get young people engaged in their own unions, 44 00:02:20,490 --> 00:02:23,870 but also making connections with young people outside the Labor 45 00:02:23,870 --> 00:02:26,280 Movement so that we're all working together 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,540 to advance the interests of young people in this economy. 47 00:02:29,540 --> 00:02:33,530 And we've been building young worker groups 48 00:02:33,530 --> 00:02:36,720 all across the country through our AFL-CIO structure. 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,840 So in most major cities and pretty much every state, 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,360 we have a young worker group that's 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,380 giving voice to young people. 52 00:02:44,380 --> 00:02:48,990 They're leading in politics, in legislation, 53 00:02:48,990 --> 00:02:53,020 in organizing, and really being a voice 54 00:02:53,020 --> 00:02:54,900 and a presence for the Labor Movement 55 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:56,790 in their local communities. 56 00:02:56,790 --> 00:02:58,320 I'm really proud of the work they've 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:03,100 done to put together a young worker economic platform 58 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:05,060 so that they can hold politicians 59 00:03:05,060 --> 00:03:08,110 accountable on the issues that matter to young people 60 00:03:08,110 --> 00:03:09,200 in the economy. 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,220 And of course, front and center is job opportunities, 62 00:03:12,220 --> 00:03:15,620 making sure that when people graduate from high school 63 00:03:15,620 --> 00:03:17,510 or even graduate from college that we have 64 00:03:17,510 --> 00:03:19,620 good jobs waiting for them. 65 00:03:19,620 --> 00:03:22,770 And often, we know young people are grappling 66 00:03:22,770 --> 00:03:25,230 with a lot of student loan debt when they've 67 00:03:25,230 --> 00:03:27,770 gone through college and how are our elected 68 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:31,720 officials responding to that and really connecting the Labor 69 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,950 Movement to the issues that matter to young people? 70 00:03:40,490 --> 00:03:43,900 Well, the course is a real opportunity for young people 71 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:48,660 to connect on what is the future of work going to look like? 72 00:03:48,660 --> 00:03:53,790 What are we doing as working people to influence that? 73 00:03:53,790 --> 00:03:56,680 And in the labor movement, of course, front and center 74 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,070 is collective bargaining and how can we 75 00:03:59,070 --> 00:04:01,420 strengthen collective bargaining and how 76 00:04:01,420 --> 00:04:05,120 does the role of collective bargaining influence 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,720 work in general? 78 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,610 We know the unionized workforce has been shrinking, 79 00:04:10,610 --> 00:04:14,820 but in a time of the greatest inequality we've seen, 80 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:17,750 it's more important than ever that we grow the Labor Movement 81 00:04:17,750 --> 00:04:21,690 and get our fair share of that growth in the economy. 82 00:04:21,690 --> 00:04:23,620 And so I think for young people who 83 00:04:23,620 --> 00:04:26,160 are looking at what can I do to influence, what can I 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,020 do to help, taking a course like this, educating themselves, 85 00:04:30,020 --> 00:04:31,870 but then also taking that education 86 00:04:31,870 --> 00:04:33,930 and moving it into action. 87 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:35,800 And I think when I talk to young people, 88 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,210 they often feel powerless and don't 89 00:04:39,210 --> 00:04:41,140 see the Labor Movement as a vehicle 90 00:04:41,140 --> 00:04:43,280 for that kind of action. 91 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:46,570 And so I think the message is that yeah, 92 00:04:46,570 --> 00:04:48,040 there are opportunities. 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,290 There are places you can go to exert your power. 94 00:04:51,290 --> 00:04:54,330 And the power of coming together in the power 95 00:04:54,330 --> 00:04:57,690 of collective action, nowhere is that better on display 96 00:04:57,690 --> 00:04:58,950 than with the Labor Movement. 97 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,500 Young people in the Labor Movement 98 00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:09,500 have a very unique perspective. 99 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:13,600 They often are some of the only young people in their peer 100 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,570 group that have a decent job that 101 00:05:15,570 --> 00:05:19,030 pays benefits, that gives them the training they 102 00:05:19,030 --> 00:05:21,260 need without going into debt. 103 00:05:21,260 --> 00:05:26,760 So I think that they can do a service to other young people 104 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,880 who may not know those opportunities exist 105 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,620 by lifting up the possibilities of what the Labor Movement can 106 00:05:32,620 --> 00:05:33,660 offer. 107 00:05:33,660 --> 00:05:36,530 They also have a unique perspective 108 00:05:36,530 --> 00:05:39,090 on what's happening in the economy. 109 00:05:39,090 --> 00:05:43,820 As we know, this generation has suffered disproportionately 110 00:05:43,820 --> 00:05:45,820 with the lack of opportunity. 111 00:05:45,820 --> 00:05:49,440 The unemployment numbers have hit them, I think, 112 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,890 at double the rate of the average who's out of work. 113 00:05:53,890 --> 00:05:58,320 And we want to come together as a society to figure out, 114 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,710 what kind of jobs do we want to see in this country 115 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:04,380 as we go forward in the future? 116 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:07,690 Do we want low-road, f jobs or do 117 00:06:07,690 --> 00:06:12,090 we want opportunities to really support your family 118 00:06:12,090 --> 00:06:13,850 and put food on the table? 119 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:17,810 And I think young people are feeling that so acutely and so 120 00:06:17,810 --> 00:06:20,770 they have ideas and thoughts to share 121 00:06:20,770 --> 00:06:22,380 on how we can rebuild the economy. 122 00:06:22,380 --> 00:06:24,380 So I think that this is a great opportunity 123 00:06:24,380 --> 00:06:28,260 to bring people together, have their voices heard, 124 00:06:28,260 --> 00:06:33,380 make sure that we're getting our politicians' attention on this 125 00:06:33,380 --> 00:06:35,060 because those elected officials are 126 00:06:35,060 --> 00:06:38,620 the ones that write the rules and pass the policies. 127 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:41,740 And so if we're going to rewrite the rules of the economy, 128 00:06:41,740 --> 00:06:43,586 we need to get more and more young voices 129 00:06:43,586 --> 00:06:44,460 in that conversation. 130 00:06:50,470 --> 00:06:52,900 I think there is so much opportunity 131 00:06:52,900 --> 00:06:54,950 at this moment in time as, of course, 132 00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:57,300 the workplace is changing and evolving. 133 00:06:57,300 --> 00:06:59,870 So is the Labor Movement and so is 134 00:06:59,870 --> 00:07:02,500 the progressive infrastructure in the country. 135 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:05,690 And I think the message is that we don't just 136 00:07:05,690 --> 00:07:08,680 have to sit back and wait for change to happen 137 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,450 and feel like we can't be a part of that change. 138 00:07:13,450 --> 00:07:16,260 I think it's important that you see the Labor Movement 139 00:07:16,260 --> 00:07:20,120 as a vehicle for that possibility of bringing 140 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,160 people's voices together. 141 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,860 And as an institution, we can do that. 142 00:07:25,860 --> 00:07:27,600 But we can't do it alone. 143 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,970 We need to be working together in collaboration 144 00:07:30,970 --> 00:07:34,420 and in partnership with all kinds of organizations. 145 00:07:34,420 --> 00:07:37,840 And the more people we bring together, the more powerful 146 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:38,820 our voices are. 147 00:07:38,820 --> 00:07:41,000 So I think for young people who are looking 148 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,280 for an avenue and a way to make change, certainly look 149 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,690 to the Labor Movement, but look in your communities. 150 00:07:46,690 --> 00:07:49,650 Look at all the different organizations 151 00:07:49,650 --> 00:07:53,040 that are lifting up voices in different ways. 152 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,970 Look at your local businesses, for example. 153 00:07:55,970 --> 00:07:58,780 We often think that labor and management are 154 00:07:58,780 --> 00:08:00,790 at odds with each other, but could we 155 00:08:00,790 --> 00:08:03,350 be more powerful if we were working together 156 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:08,680 in collaboration on the things that matter to creating 157 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,020 better jobs, high-road, high-wage jobs? 158 00:08:13,020 --> 00:08:15,580 And so I think that young people will 159 00:08:15,580 --> 00:08:19,740 play an integral and important role in making that happen.